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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:22 PM
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Ed Gillespie on CNN crying about the Bush=Hitler ad
on MoveOn.org.

crybaby!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:25 PM
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1. Too bad he loved that 2002 ad...
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 04:26 PM by GainesT1958
Where Saxby Chambliss had Max Cleland morphing into Osama. Guess ads like that are just bad if they attack Repubs, huh, Ed? :eyes:

B-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:26 PM
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3. excellent point, Gaines
:thumbsup:
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LatteLib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:28 PM
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5. Exactly!
Gillespie was whining and could barely speak! He said the Democratic candidates had no plans to help American families with taxes. Does he live in a vaccumn?
If he thinks this is bad, he better make sure he has a years supply of Depends because the Democrats are only getting started.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:40 PM
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12. Rep talking points
They keep repeating it over & over - "But, the Democrats have no plan for <fill in the blank>" - I can't say how many times I've heard "all the Democrats complain about Iraq, but none of them have come up with a plan themselves."
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:33 PM
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10. Paul Begala just said that very thing on Crossfire
:D
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:04 PM
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30. Yup....the second they questioned our patriotism,
the gloves were off.

Tough shit, crybaby.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:25 PM
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68. Amen. Amen! AMEN!
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:25 PM
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2. Estimate of comparisons between the Clintons and Hitler on FR.
I would guess about 250,000 posts.

Hypocritical cry-baby bastard.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:27 PM
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4. I'm PO'd it's not one of the finalists !
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:30 PM
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6. Didn't they also do Daschle = Saddam?
Or was it Osama?

Eff 'em up their fat white a holes!
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BackDoorMan Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:32 PM
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71. I'm gonna make a donation right this second to MoveOn.org
http://www.moveon.org/

You too can sen them a couple of bucks and make them even stroger!

They know what to do with the money...they always put it to excellent use!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:30 PM
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7. You know, if the original Nazis were this thin-skinned
Hitler's Thousand Year Reich would never have gotten off the ground.

Totalitarians were made of sterner stuff in those days, and Mr. Gillespie isn't holding up the Bushevik end.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:32 PM
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8. I walked from the tv when he was about to open his piehole.
Because I knew he would be doing a bunch of whining. Also, since I did walk off, did CNN have someone from moveon.org to counter the whiney baby?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:33 PM
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9. Wet-diaper crybaby
I guess the ads that questioned the patriotism of Democrats was A-OK.

Jerk.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:37 PM
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11. Hypocrites
Gaawd......they have the nerve to talk about "negative" and "mean spirited attacks.....but look at all the lies,dirty tricks and hate filled rhetoric THEY put out. It's the "DO AS I SAY,NOT AS I DO PARTY". How anyone with a working brain can support those hypocrites is a mystery to me! :puke:
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LatteLib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:49 PM
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16. How anyone with a working brain can support those hypocrites is
a mystery to me!

OXYCONTIN

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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:40 PM
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13. Here, send him to this one..
"Bush is not a Nazi - so stop saying that.." http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

I got attacked by Byron York of the National Review over that one, as well as the Wisenthal Center (do they have Alzheimers? NEVER FORGET) and it was even shown on FOX once, I missed it tho..

Gillespie is dangerous..

In case you haven't noticed the Right Wing Trash Machine is going after MOVEON.ORG in a BIG way, all on the same page.. and what a coincidence, JUST when they are ready to announce the winning bushin30seconds ad that will be shown during Bush's "Speech thingie" (State of the Union) nationwide..

Coincidence? NOPE.. KKKArl Rove's fax machine glowing cherry red and CNN on their Kneepads..
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:44 PM
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14. Here's the Cleland ad
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:44 PM
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15. Tsk tsk tsk. . .what goes around comes around, right?
n/t

:nopity::nopity::nopity:
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Since they basically print their own money
expect a non stop assault on liberals and freedoms for the forseeable future.
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:51 PM
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18. I recently read Mein Kampf
and noticed that there are huge similarities between the neoconservative movement and Naziism. It's shocking, actually.

But I'd say comparing Bush to Hitler is more of an insult to Hitler than it is to Bush. Bush is only a puppet of Cheney. Comparing Cheney or Wolfowitz to Hitler would be more like it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:55 PM
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23. don't underestimate him
First, welcome to DU.

We made the mistake of underestimating Bush last time around and Gore didn't press him in the debates about his series of lies on the campaign trail... instead, he rolled his eyes and looked like a stern daddy. And, Lieberman didn't press Cheney, either.

Bush & the Reich Wing set the debeate expectations so low for Bush that when he doesn't come across as Jack Nicholson at the end of "The Shining", he comes up a winner.


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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:53 PM
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19. Wolf will have it as well
up at 5pm
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:55 PM
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22. well there ya go, absolute proof that CNN ain't exactly liberal
anyone with a brain in their head, anyone reasonable, would not give these idiots a venue.

Thanks CNN for being the biggest whore on the block.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:54 PM
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20. Republicans taught me how to hate
There was a time when I didn't hate anybody. As soon as I realized they hated so many things that were good, that they weren't interested in arguing about it, they weren't interested in even listening to any kind of debate, they were only interested in destroying and ridiculing their perceived "enemies"....

I realized that the only way to deal with them was to hate them right back.

I fucking hate these people. I want them destroyed.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:56 PM
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24. LOL!
:-)
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
72. I feel the same way
I like your spirit, cheers!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:55 PM
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21. Wolf just mentioned the ad, it's upcoming on his show.
CNN is really blowing this way out of proportion. Did this happen with the Osama/Daschle ad?

The media is really ticking me off!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:59 PM
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26. CNN has gotta go
I'm serious. These bastards need to be shut down through civil disobedience. How can we do it?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:00 PM
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27. I hope the Bush/Hitler ad wins
when will we know who the winner is?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:49 PM
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39. it wasn't a finalist....

there's a thread with all the links here somewhere
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 08:46 PM
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52. The finalists in the Move On "bush in 30 seconds"
http://www.bushin30seconds.org/

Hey, CNN, how about playing "What are we teaching our children" and "Bring 'em On." Those two will tell you a lot more about how Dems feel about bush** than any bush-Hitler comparison.

Ed Gillespie, shut up.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:03 PM
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29. Perfectly understandable, cat_girl.
I wish we had a Vigrous, Independant, and Free Press, but such things are anarchronistic relics in today's Imperial Amerika.

CNN is flogging this story because the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media is and, sadly, CNN like the rest of Corporate TV Pravda is too lazy to do anything besides be pulled along in their wake.

When I see our Imperial Amerikan media, so obviously controlled, corralled, and generally broken (with a handful of elderly exceptions), I see Soviet Pravda. So willing to parrot and trumpet and launder any Bushevik Pravda laced with half-truths and outright lies are our Amerikan Pravda I find it infuriating, as well.

On the plus side, there are still some levels of difference between Amerikan Pravda and Old Soviet Pravda, I sppose we should be sort of grateful for that.

Of course, when Raygun is killed by the Bushevisk (Potassium Chloride injected behind the ear, is my guess) sometime between July-Oct. 2004, then you will see Amerikan Pravda merge with Soviet Pravda in many figurative ways.

Raygun will be given the Old Dead Soviet Treatment With Extra Whitewash.

Even now, we are living in the "Good Old Days". I wouldn't want to live in the Amerikan Empire in 2050, after the Busheviks are finished transitioning it from what it was into what it will become.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:57 PM
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25. Awwww.... Theyre breaking my heart...

This can't possibly be his first clue as to just how much we hate the idiot-in-chief.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:03 PM
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28. I must be an idiot - where can I view the ad?
I don't see it on MoveOn's site.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:09 PM
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33. here
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:05 PM
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31. FOX is talking about
"All Republicans have denounced it, as well as MOST Democrats"

nice subtlety
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:31 PM
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48. and the Simon Wiesenthal Center...(link)
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:35 PM
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49. and Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie...(link)

middle of page....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/01/04/politics1746EST0573.DTL

"This is the worst and most vile form of political hate speech," Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie said in a statement. He also called on the Democratic presidential candidates to renounce the ad.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:37 PM
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50. & Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations (link)
middle of page....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/01/04/politics1746EST0573.DTL

"To use Hitler in a way like this is grotesque and outrageous. He was such a heinous individual that it's unseemly to bring him into the American political debate," said James Tisch, chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:18 PM
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86. so KKKarl rove sent out all these people to protect bush*.....
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 10:29 PM by amen1234
it's truly sickening how rove works the media....

and even Jewish organizations bow to rove....

as WE try to protect America from another holocaust...rove gets Jewish organizations to SILENCE anyone speaking out against the new 21st century hitler, named bush*....and amazing that bush* has Jewish people HELPING him to move toward the Final Solution...I am shocked and awed by the Jewish peoples complicity.....

---------------------------------------------------
In chapter six of Mein Kampf, Hitler reviewed the use of propaganda during World War I. In the course of his criticism of the German effort, he included comments on the function of propaganda in general. His statements offer insight into the methods used by the Nazi Party.

-snips-

All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction.

The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitler_propaganda.html

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:09 PM
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32. here's a little e-mail I just sent to lateedition@cnn.com
Regarding the move.on ad:

You know, I haven't even seen the ad.

But the fact that you're showing it on CNN and giving people like Ed Gillespie a venue to blow off their puke, tells me one thing:

You are partisan. You are on their side.

You can't even see that the ad was in no way sponsored or financed by move.on. Wait. You can see that, you refuse to relay that point to the world.

Oh, no, you'd much rather, since you're in bed with the GOP, just show the ad and let them make the associations between moveon.org and this ad.

I am shocked that anyone could possibly whine about anything of this sort. You know why?

Because Republicans set this tone. They set it every day with "Hitlery" Clinton, with Michael Savage saying the Iranian earthquake was a gift from God because it killed 60,000 Iranians and God was doing our work for us. They set it every day they demonize their perceived "enemies" and every time they shut down debate, shut down reasonable discussion, and somehow get companies like CNN to suck their collective cocks.

And now they whine like babies when somebody dishes it back at them.

Are you sensing some hate? Well, you know what?

Republicans taught me how to hate.

There was a time when I didn't hate anybody. But around 1980 I realized that they hated so many things that were good, such as people who simply wanted to save our air and water and forests, and that they weren't interested in arguing, they weren't interested in even listening to any kind of debate, they were only interested in destroying and ridiculing their perceived "enemies"....

I realized that the only way to deal with them was to hate them right back.

And now CNN is the biggest right wing whore on the block.

Well you know what happens to whores? They get fucked.

Hope you're happy, CNN! I, for one, will never watch your sorry excuse for "journalism" ever again.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Excellent fucking letter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just excellent!! :D

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AromaticSocks Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #34
64. Interesting comment but how do you feel about Jews?
Are you concerned about the Jewish opinion on garbage ads like the moveon ad? This ad had to be the most ignorant ad ever produced by a so-called progressive group. I hope you don't feel the ad was excellent too.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Some of my best friends are Jewish
some of my best lovers have been Jewish

:shrug:
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AromaticSocks Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. How do they feel about your margin between Hitler and bush?
Is it broad enough?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. I know some who hate Bush
I know many who hate Hitler.

I know many who hate both Bush and Hitler.

Point?

counter point?

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #67
96. how do you feel about your supposed "right to free speech"?
sounds like you're thinking of giving it up.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #64
95. Moveon did not produce the ad, you-who-does-not-pay-attention
I'd call you something else but the post would be deleted
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Wow! That was the bomb!
Two thumbs up! I especially liked this sentence:

"Well you know what happens to whores? They get fucked."
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. and, MOST importantly to the whores...
they get PAID!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:08 PM
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45. You took the words out of my mouth, seriously.
Only difference is Democrats don't whine like crybabies when our own are compared to Hitler ('Clintler', 'Hitlery', etc.)

Hey GOP - Go fuck youselves! Only difference between Bush and Hitler is the Nazis had much thicker skins.

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AromaticSocks Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #32
62. Close but not all there
It's good that you hammered CNN but the Nazi/Hitler ad was over the line. And I mean WAY OVER THE LINE. It is an insult to the Jewish that a small timer like bush would be compared to the killer of MILLIONS of Jews.

My mostly Jewish family whom ALWAYS votes Dem are pissed and think moveon.org are a bunch of assholes...and they are.

I predict moveon.org will be toast by May. Anti Jewish morons.org is not needed right now.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #62
77. the ad was not produced by moveon, ok, it was submitted and then yanked
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 09:45 PM by rumguy
by off the site. And there are many, many Jewish supporters of Moveon.org in Seattle where I live. Many, and they are not going anywhere! Ha, Ha!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #62
89. Yes but,
"It is an insult to the Jewish that a small timer like bush would be compared to the killer of MILLIONS of Jews."

Of course it's an insult but Jews were not the only ones killed by Hitler.

"I predict moveon.org will be toast by May."

Oh please! You wish.
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #62
92. i would suggest to you and your family.....
that they stop logging on to move-on.

get over it...really...

and furthermore, what are your thoughts about Mr. Bush?...do you think he's an OK guy? a great president? do you like the fact he and his regime have been wiping their collective asses with our constitution?

i am sure you remember there were german jewish groups that supported hitler in the 30's as well, right? so what if bush hasn't exterminated 4 million liberals yet...the writings on the wall...read your history books...see the comparisons...there are parallels, like it or not.

hitler is a part of world history...a sad and horrible part but a part nonetheless. the producer who made the clip for the move-on contest was not the first person to compare the two...i believe that came from a german parliment member, who ought to know better than just about anyone who resembles the now deceased nazi leader and who doesn't...with the possible exception of those of the jewish faith.

putting your hands over your eyes, ears and mouth and pissing and moaning about invoking the name of hitler when comparing him to bush won't change a thing. IMHO, the words bush and nazi go hand in hand, and in the eyes of history, the two are even more closely related to one another than you would probably like to admitt. i will remind you the bush family came across a great portion of their wealth with the blood of millions of jews on their dirty hands. they openly traded with the 3rd reich in WW2...that is another part of recorded history, another sad and horrible part, but a part nonetheless. where is your outrage and where is your families outrage there?
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:14 PM
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35. The final word on this:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/

And in a statement, Move-on officials say:

"This is a baseless story generated entirely by the RNC. The ad was one of 1,512 submissions from around the country. No one on the Move-on staff can remember seeing it... It is not a Move-on ad and it was never distributed, promoted, nor paid for by Move-on."

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:26 PM
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36. Is this the TBTM ad?
Take Back the Media's "Hitler" ad?
( http://www.takebackthemedia.com )
anyone else remember that? Before there were so many freepers masquerading here as dems of some sort? Lost in the traffic now, I guess.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. no. they did a flash
on bush/hitler but their 30sec ad was "One Man Army" (and it is a finalist!)
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:43 PM
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38. What the bastridge ought to be reporting on is Prescott Bush's
war profiteering with the Nazis.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:56 PM
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40. I was really surprised to hear
Judy Woodruff questioning Ed G. She said something like MoveOn removed that ad from their site a week ago. You put it up on the RNC website. Aren't you just making it worse (something like that). Gillespie answered that he wanted everybody to see it. He wanted everyone to know how dirty rotten we are.

Usually I get really mad at this stuff, but Ed G. was so pathetic with his anger and whining, that I just LMAO.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 06:02 PM
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41. Shoot I missed it
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 06:03 PM by proud patriot
darn it . I'll have to catch it tomorrow

on edit I meant to post this in the Ed Schultz thread
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AromaticSocks Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 06:50 PM
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44. He and McAuliff should create a new party
Call it the "Twigs" from the trees that don't branch.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:13 PM
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46. Hmpf! I'm just jealous they didn't put my ad up.


Like, man, I was like, making the Bush-Hitler comparison back when it wasn't cool.

"It still kinda isn't."

Oh yeah? Well, uh... Bush-Hitler got real commercial on their second album, they like totally sold out.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 07:16 PM
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47. but YOU'RE always cool
:hi:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 08:29 PM
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 08:56 PM
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54. BULL
BUsh is just warming up..

HE is the closest thing to Hitler I've seen in my 50 years of watching the world go by..

you don't think that hateful pathetic son of a bitch wouldn't like death chambers? Haven't you seen the GLEE he has over death?

He started slow as Gov and a serial killer and NOW he's a Mass Murderer - he has no where to go but UP to join the ranks of Attila the Hun and all those other slaughterers..

so he does it with "smart" bombs instead of gas.. what's the freaking difference?

and WHO ELSE practised PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACKS?

He's a Tin Hitler at the very least.. IMHO
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:08 PM
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60. So what were your reactions to "hitlery" etc...
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 09:10 PM by ret5hd
bet that pill wasnt so bitter to swallow was it?

the only lunatic fringe has (R) by their name, and they are wanting to invade an entire continent, but we want to stop them.

take a walk

on edit: punk
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:10 PM
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61. trying to SILENCE those who are attempting to prevent another
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 09:12 PM by amen1234

Holocaust....is truly disgusting...

anyone who is familar with the history, leading up to the Holocaust, should be encouraging Americans to STAND UP and SPEAK OUT when they hear/see the first signs of hilter-like politics...which is bush*

shame on those who will silence BRAVE AMERICAN PATRIOTS, who try to STOP bush*....



read here about hitler's rise to power and the events BEFORE the 'Final Solution'....and that is exactly what bush* does today...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/holo.html


or watch this flash video to know why Americans are very concerned and SPEAKING OUT....why don't you join us? or are you really wanting another Holocaust by silencing us?
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:23 PM
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66. And Bu$h Inc. hasn`t started what could be a holocaust? I`ll bet he has.
When Hitler had been in power for just 3 years like Bu$h has. He did not have near the bloody body count that Bu$h Inc. has. What is going to stop our court appointed leader from killing more than Hitler? Comparing Tom Daschle and Max Cleland to Osama Bin Forgotten? I doubt it. Why won`t Bu$h Inc. let 9-11 be investigated properly? And don`t think the Repukes will stop comparing us to terrorists because that is the only way they can keep the focus of their murders on us and not them. Any Democrat that wants to leave the party because we treat the pukes the same way they do us. Then let them. They were probably not real Democrats in the first place.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:29 PM
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70. Hey, Pittsburgh!!!
come out, come out, wherever you are!!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:39 PM
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74. Much ado about nothing. The ad isn't a finalist; and my understanding is
that MoveOn pulled it. I think I saw it over the voting period (I saw over 400, so I may be wrong) but if I did, it didn't leave an impression.

The ad's been pulled, and TBTMs excellent finalist ("Army of One"--I was in tears)is being ignored (not my top choice, but a great ad).
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:48 PM
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80. this ad was not financed, produced or directed by moveon or the dems, ok?
It was submitted to the site and then yanked...ok? There are many well thought out and tasteful ads at moveon, it's a shame that people like you focus only on the negatives...hmmm...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:54 PM
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90. What a load of crap.
So your first post on DU is to badmouth moveon.org. Geeze. You people are working overtime to demonize moveon.org. Well it ain't goanna happen.

Oh and btw, I don't think Bush should be compared to Hitler. But at least I did some research and know that moveon.org had nothing to do with that ad.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:41 AM
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93. Name one thing that the ads state that is not factual or in error.
I won't hole my breath, because there is not a single fact stated in these ads that is not true.

That is why they BITE!
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:58 AM
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94. Look at it this way...
if * is in power as long as Hitler was, chances are he'll put Hitler's numbers all to shame.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 08:54 PM
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53. Any word from the person or persons.............
who actually created the ad?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:05 PM
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57. I haven't seen anything from the author
It could have easily been done by a Freeper or the RNC itself. Not saying that it was, but it's a possibility.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:07 PM
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59. Interesting......
point, would makes sense if that were the case.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:40 PM
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76. Nope--TBTM is plugging "Army of One" on their site; for which they
are justifiably proud.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:03 PM
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55. Hey Ed....
SHUT THE F*** UP!!!!
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SmokeyBlues Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:03 PM
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56. Wishful thinking, perhaps?
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator"

-George Bush, Washington DC, December 18,2000


Why not Hitler?
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AromaticSocks Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:06 PM
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58. I agree it's reall funny but how has bush compared to Hitler?
How many millions has he sent to the ovens Midori? Are we now loading up liberals on trains for the gas chambers? I'd LOL and HaHa but Hitler was so bad that I can't compare him to a simpleminded RW president that has not fired up the final solution...yet.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:13 PM
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63. *ahem*
Symbolman said it so well, I just have to use his words (hope that's ok with you, SM :hi: )


Bush is just warming up..

He is the closest thing to Hitler I've seen in my almost 50 years of watching the world go by..

you don't think that hateful pathetic son of a bitch wouldn't like death chambers? Haven't you seen the GLEE he has over death?

He started slow as Gov and a serial killer and NOW he's a Mass Murderer - he has no where to go but UP to join the ranks of Attila the Hun and all those other slaughterers..

so he does it with "smart" bombs instead of gas.. what's the freaking difference?

and WHO ELSE practiced PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACKS?

He's a Tin Hitler at the very least.. IMHO



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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:38 PM
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73. And I stand behind every one of those words :)
wow, quoted by one of my heroines here :)

thanks

and fuck you Bush. And you too Ed Gillespie. And anyone that doesn't see what's coming should try and read at least one history book...

LIke my wife says about these guys, "THou dost protest too much.." :)
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:40 PM
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75. we are trying to stop bush* BEFORE the Final Solution...
shame on those attempting to silence the BRAVE AMERICAN PATRIOTS, who try to STOP bush*....bush*, the 21st century hitler on the rise...



read here about hitler's rise to power and the events BEFORE the 'Final Solution'....and that is exactly what bush* does today...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/holo.html


or watch this flash video to know why Americans are very concerned and SPEAKING OUT....why don't you join us? or are you really wanting another Holocaust by silencing us?
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:03 PM
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84. I agree. bush* is no Hitler.
Hitler could read and write, and actually served in the army, and was wounded in battle.

bush* is only a pathetic Hitler wannabe.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:25 AM
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97. If you're against freedom of speech, aren't you anti-American?
This just proves to me that right wingers really DO want to censor everything.

They do not believe in Democracy, they do not believe in freedom of speech.

They are anti American.

It's a logical conclusion.l
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BackDoorMan Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:44 PM
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78. OK I just made a donation to MoveOn.org (hope you send a few bucks too.)
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 10:01 PM by BackDoorMan
http://www.moveon.org/

I sent them a few bucks as I always try and do...it does help and make a difference and they use the money so effectively, you will feel happy you sent them a few dollars.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:46 PM
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79. reTHUGs out in force on this thread...to SILENCE those speaking out
against bush*....bush* and his minions and policies are such an exact replica of hitler...the last thing the reTHUGlicans want is for any American to begin the association to hitler...that alone could ruin shrub...so lets get started to make certain that all Americans understand how hitler rose to such a powerful position, and how bush* is doing the exact same steps...


shame on those who will silence BRAVE AMERICAN PATRIOTS, who try to STOP bush*....



read here about hitler's rise to power and the events that led up to the Holocaust....and that is exactly what bush* does today...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/holo.html


or watch this flash video to know why Americans are very concerned and SPEAKING OUT....
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:51 PM
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81. heh
a new twist to "hide and seek" isn't it?

ollie, ollie, oxen, free.............
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:53 PM
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 09:55 PM
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83. As Glenda said to the Wicked Witch of the West
"Begone, before a house falls on you, too".

:P
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:03 PM
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87. Whatever you said
drop dead
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:05 PM
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85. Think film...
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 10:07 PM by higher class
think history...

The Bush Reich can absolutely be compared to the Hitler Riech in its early days preceding the Holocaust. Predatory, imperialistic, lie experts, hate spreaders, propaganda artists, denouncatory, people abusers, target makers, chest pumpers, weapon makers, youth users. THEY HAD A LOT OF BIG PLANS JUST LIKE THE BUSH REICH AND WITH A LOT OF GROWING DISDAIN FOR CERTAIN RELIGIONS, CULTURES, and NATIONS.

Th Bush Reich has done it differently - first they set out to destroy the earth and environment, then the people.

I'm absolutely convinced that their think tankers sat down to figure out the path top world domination and sublimation and took a little bit of nazism, communism, imperialism, dictatorism, and as was pointed out facsism and put it in a pot. They then refined it and shoved it down our throat in the terminology of democracy (in which they don't believe).

If Gillespie and Savage and CNN and FOX are so offended, they should also expose the name for Hilary. If anyone in their leadership is concerned they should immediately announce that citizens and residents will not be imprisoned without representation. Cheney will tell us exactly what his friends and partners have stolen from us.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 11:18 PM
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88. Here's moveon's regret statement
"We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system."

They do go on to point out that there wasn't this kind of uproar with the Cleland ads though, and they actually ran.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:28 AM
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99. I'm very disappointed they pulled the ad and said that
They should have stuck to their guns. Why does everybody bow before the idiot right wingers?

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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 12:03 AM
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91. I'm glad they keep showing it...
cause everytime they do,someone,somewhere,is thinking to himself,"wow,I never thought of it like that before..Bush really IS like Hitler"!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:26 AM
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98. RNC: "They shouldn't show this ad! But WE will!"
How does that make any sense?

Oh right, these are republicans we're talking about.
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