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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:27 PM
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It is naive, but I think Rush has had a change of heart.
Maybe it's too late in the day. Maybe I'm more optimistic than anyone who knows me thinks I am. Could I really believe in sin and redemption?

At any rate, I've decided that Rush's fascination with us before his most recent failed rehab attempt might have something to do with the fact that he wanted to throw the dittos a lifeline, without admitting it. In other words, he'd send them here in the hope that one in a hundred of them would learn something.

If he has become aware of the truth, what could he do about it? Not much overtly, I think. But he could play along with his wacko cash sources but plant some seeds of dissent, not expecting mass conversions. After all, he knows his audience.

A small sliver of supporting evidence is his laughable defense of the immigration suggestions of *. Rush defends his President's statements not by the statement's contents, but to say simply that * just didn't mean it. Now we all know that, but telling the dittos that the President is lying for politics? Well, even the dittos can scratch their heads and say, "Man, shouldn't the President propose legislation that he actually hopes will pass?"


You get my point, is it possible?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:32 PM
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1. I don't think so...I think he's covering Bush's ass...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 10:32 PM by rfranklin
Listen, guys, George has to do this to get votes from those stupid brown people. Don't worry, Georgie's still our man, he's just being "political"--nudge, nudge, wink, wink!
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:41 PM
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4. Ordinarily I'd agree but Rush was adamant that * was
insincere. I heard it with my own two ears, all I could think was that if it were someone I supported that Rush was saying was a liar it might offend me.

But when I realized it was about the first time I'd heard Rush speak the truth it made me ponder the posibilities........
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:34 PM
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2. Nope
Rush has his staff monitor freeperville and he is aware of their fasination with us. Rush knows how to keep his audience. He is an expert showman and is just talking about what his audience is interested in hearing.

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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:36 PM
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3. sadly I think you said it: naive
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:46 PM
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5. Even in Rush's pathetic rehab, he must have awakened in the middle
of the night and thought to himself, "My God, what have I done!"

Certainly in was a passing thought, but he did tell his followers today that the President is a liar. That says quite a bit.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:50 PM
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6. Bull. More likely


he wakes up in the middle of the night thinking (to the best of his limited ability) "The next time, I'll use a BFEE(tm) approved supplier."
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:52 PM
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7. you lost me after the first phrase. that one's right on, however
.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:56 PM
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8. OK I agree it is far-fetched, but
the guy sends his followers here days before he calls their God a liar? It is a long-shot, but possible.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:40 AM
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14. I don't think he called Bush* a liar
We on the left see things differently than those on the right do. What he said (I believe) although I Never listen to him, is that Bush* was playing politics. I can almost hear him now. People we have to be mature here and realize sometimes things have to be said to obtain a greater good and I'm sure this is what Bush* was doing. He is trying to get the Latino vote by any means possible and doesn't really plan on following through with any of this. Remember we have to beat the Democrats whatever it takes.
We look at this as More Lies but they look at it as political savy and good politics. They really don't care how they win. They have no morals and to them the "Ends always justify the Means". Rush has not changed one iota. He is still the most dispicable of the lot.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:04 PM
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9. ROFLMAO! not a chance in hell. or anywhere else either...
good try though. Wonderfully optimistic.

he's an evil, evil man who sold his soul to the bushlers.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:28 PM
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10. When I hear Limbaugh say that the ...
bush tax cuts are destroying the nation; all people are equal under the law; drug users deserve treatment as opposed to jail for non-violent crimes; I may, just may believe he turned over a new leaf.

There are a multitude of other things I could bring up, but those 3 stand out at this time. I don't feel that Rush has the empathy for others that we at DU have, he is devoid of a conscience at this time in his life.

That may change, but I wouldn't put up the farm on it.

O8)
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:18 AM
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11. He called Dean "Nikita"
again today. Nope, the same old pigfucker he always was and will be.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:33 AM
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12. I figured as much...
I listen to him occasionally, but I can only stomach so much of him.

I thought he might have a change of heart, even a small shift would be welcome; but he is not about to chomp at the hand that feeds him.

he can live in his self made hell, I'll just turn up the heat every once in awhile.

:evilgrin:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:10 AM
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13. It is not possible.
I continue to be amazed at DUers who somehow think Rush is other than the Prince of Darkness. On the one hand, it says something positive about them, and their hope for redemption; on the other, it says they are worse than naive, and likely to be the first candidates for quashing in a second Bush term. We always hope for the best, but this is hopelessly misplaced.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:41 AM
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15. Please Don't Fall for it
The REPUKES do stuff like this so that the argument can be made that "see, he's not a neo-con conservative wing-nut"..."see, even Pat Buchanan is slamming Bush, that means that he must really be a Kompassionate KKKonservative." "Come on Moderate DEMS, you can vote for Bush, look, he's not that bad".

It is typical bait and switch and is so transparent that I'm surprised more people don't get it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:53 AM
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16. Welcome Prodigal Brothers and Sisters
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:24 PM
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17. there is always hope for redemption...and mercy is a good thing....
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 12:26 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
forgiveness doesn't mean forgetfulness
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:28 PM
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18. I see no change. He spent 3 hours padding the immigration issue
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 12:30 PM by Cannikin
to soften the blow to the ditto heads. It was very transparent that it was a desperate appeal to his die hard listeners that it was somehow a good idea.

Still preaching that all environmental issues are junk science...
Still 'all liberals bad, all conservatives good' B.S.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:40 PM
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20. Now I only listened for a while yesterday, and not at all today.
So maybe I caught the portion of his show when his Oxy levels were at their peek, but for a time yesterday he was definitely consoling the Dittos by telling them that * didn't mean what he said about immigration. He didn't call Bush a liar outright, but even a Ditto can figure out that when you say someone isn't truthful that means they lied.

Rush even went on to say the proof that * didn't mean it will come when he doesn't use any pressure to get the proposal through congress. Basically, according to Rush, the purpose of the proposal was simply to pander to the Latinos, who presumably will be too simple to figure out that they have been set-up with empty rhetoric.

Rush's theory, even if it doesn't represent a conversion, may have something to it. At least as far as *'s motives are concerned. It fails when he thinks that the Latinos will fall for it, that is a more sophisticated voting block than they have been given credit for by the *&Co.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:32 PM
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19. Exactly. My theory is taking a beating and when that many people
say that you're wrong it is time to reconsider.

On the other hand, I'm just not in agreement that Rush saying that * is a liar is such a good thing for *. Maybe the point is that it is better to portray him as a liar than to represent that * actually believes what he says.

Everyone here knows that rarely is a word spoken from *'s mouth that is truthful and the admission by Rush that he sees it on the immigration issue, at least, gave me a sense of hope that Rush is seeing the light.

Oh well.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:56 PM
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21. Its possible. Anybody can see that we're on the side of truth
Even Rush.
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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 12:59 PM
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22. Not a chance
I appreciate your optimism but there is no way in hell OxyRush will ever change. He never had a heart to lose in the first place.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 01:08 PM
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23. Since LIMBOsevic Is Checking Us Out
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 01:08 PM by UTUSN
Let me echo Frank and add: A whole week after the "holidays" (rehab)---and all the wingnut spinning LIMBOsevic has to do gives vertigo.

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