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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:09 PM
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A famous historical figure you'd like to get thrown in the drunk tank with
????

For me, I'd say an evening talking to a drunk and sleepy T.E. Lawrence would be interesting.
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:10 PM
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1. You know he'd bugger you as soon as look at you, don't you?
eom
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:12 PM
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5. Well, that's what they say
But...whatever
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:11 PM
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2. Edna St. Vincent Millay n/t
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:23 PM
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27. ewagner?
Wow. A view into an acquaintance's mind.... dig it.

(I was born on her birthday, and have a biography of her that I've been meaning to read for two years.)
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:30 PM
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35. A college English Professor
Edited on Thu May-20-04 02:31 PM by ewagner
turned me on to her works when I was a Freshman.(yes, the printing press HAD been invented when I was a college freshman!!!!)...I've read all her works and a few biographies......

It's almost scary. For me, I could almost read her mind and felt, at times, she was speaking for me as well as herself............

I have her complete works in the bookcase of the Headboard on my bed...I still pull them out and thumb through them....
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:34 PM
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38. Dude.
Cool. Very cool. :hi:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:25 PM
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74. Just rmembered
this little bit

My candle burns at both ends
it cannot last the night
but ah my enemies, and
oh my friends,
what a lovely light.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:11 PM
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3. Oscar Wilde.
Even drunk, a conversation with Oscar would be stimulating.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:12 PM
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7. oooooo...why didn't I pick that one
dang!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:12 PM
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4. Thomas Jefferson
How I'd love to be able to pick that brain for several hours.
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:13 PM
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8. That's my choice, too.
His mind was first-rate, and his life was appalling. I'd love to ask him about those inconsistencies.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:17 PM
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17. except he wouldn't want to talk about that
he was very sensitive to his personal failings.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:12 PM
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6. Jesus, definately
and the younger jesus, before he got all sanctimonious and all.
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DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:17 PM
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16. That's a good answer!
I'm gonna get struck by lightning now cause that wasn't MY first thought. And besides all the wonderful, beautiful things about Jesus, he has the ability to change plain ole 'cell' water into WINE! ;-)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:19 PM
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20. and, since I am having a lifelong crisis of faith
ok, lack of faith, it's be great to give himself a couple of hours to convince me. I don't want to hear this crap from scketchy money-grubbing preachers, give it to me straight J-man, sell me on this stuff.


uh oh, is that a thunderhead I see coming in?
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:13 PM
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9. What a great question. Edgar Allan Poe
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:14 PM
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10. Well, we all know there has been many people who've lived that
experience.
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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:34 PM
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63. Me, Too!
I have loved the works of Edgar Allan Poe since I was a child. I think I first read his short stories when I was about 12 years old.

I think he had a magnificent mind, and I'd love to be able to sit down with him and just talk about where the stories and poetry came from.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:14 PM
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11. Hemingway or Winston Churchill or FDR
Edited on Thu May-20-04 02:14 PM by Rabrrrrrr
Probably Churchill would be the top of the list.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:16 PM
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14. Provided you could understand a drunk Winston
huveel elle....hummonifobuar
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:19 PM
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19. hehheh
Well, I'd probably be drunk, too, so we'd understand each other perfectly. :-)
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DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:15 PM
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12. W. Somerset Maugham
Would be interesting....well traveled, good story-teller, - imo, a good observer of humanity.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:28 PM
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57. I second this one
I adore Maugham...as you said, well traveled, his wit, his experiences...totally worth being in the slammer for an evening.

Good choice. ;) :toast:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:15 PM
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13. Dorothy Parker.
I'd like that very much.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:17 PM
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15. Robert Benchley
Since you took Dorothy... :D
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:18 PM
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18. Mark Twain
There was a character!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:19 PM
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21. I'd never heard of Twain being a drunkard
was he?
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:21 PM
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24. Well, neither was Jesus.
We're just spitballing.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:21 PM
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25. I'm Certain He Liked His Nip
And he would be tossed in the clink for speaking his mind nowdays.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:24 PM
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32. i hope we weren't supposed to pick known drunkards
I just think of a drunk tank as a place to get to know someone. :shrug: (And Emma Goldman wasn't a drunkard.)
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:25 PM
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33. No, not known drunks - just anyone
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:33 PM
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37. Since you said "drunk tank", I assumed you were looking for drinkers only
Hence my questioning of Twain.

If we're actually allowed to pick anyone, drunkard or teatotaller or somewhere in between, then Twain would be in my top list indeed.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:43 PM
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52. and yet you didn't question Jesus?
I don't get it.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:45 PM
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62. Didn't even notice it
though he was certainly known to drink wine. :-)

Probably not a drunkard, though.
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thestatusquo Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:40 PM
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64. Noah was
I dont know about Twain, but Noah became a big drunk after the flood. I think seeing all of humanity's dead, bloated bodies floating around would lead anyone to drink.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:07 PM
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70. Quite true! he was indeed
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:20 PM
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23. Who else ALMOST picked Twain? Great choice. nt
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:23 PM
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28. I wouldn't pick Twain.
What are you going to learn about him drunk that you don't already know?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:40 PM
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44. Twain WAS my first choice, but he was not much of a drinker.
Edited on Thu May-20-04 02:44 PM by Richardo
Cigars were his vice. Cheap cigars. Even when he was wealthy. Up to 40 per DAY.

I picked Benchley 'cause I'd want to be in the pokey with someone as toasted as I was. :D

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:20 PM
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22. Bob Woodward
See if I could get him to spill the beans on Deep Throat
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:22 PM
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26. Emma Goldman
I'd fall in love, and she'd start a riot. We'd all escape in the confusion, and I could learn the ways of anarchism & Russian women. ;)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:23 PM
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29. Somehow, I don't think I'll be seeing the name "George W. Bush"
on here. Is there anyone who likes to listen to him while he's SOBER?? :-)
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:24 PM
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30. He's SOBER?
We're in bigger trouble than I thought.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 03:00 PM
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51. Bwahahahahaha!
Good one, FarmerOak :D
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:24 PM
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31. Look at it this way, in the tank....
He may get his ass kicked
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:28 PM
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34. How about a group...
Walt Whitman, Thomas Jefferson, Mahatma Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln, Joshua Lawerence Chamberlain, Elanore Roosevelt, and this Jesus fella if he actually existed should round things out for an interesting conversation.
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:31 PM
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36. Eleanor would have every single cigarette within 15 minutes.
eom
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:38 PM
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41. Fine by me. I hate cigarettes, I have a diminished lung capacity anyways.
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FarmerOak Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:42 PM
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45. Yes, but with all the cigarettes, she gets to run the cell.
That's the way it works. Eleanor would mop the floor with them guys.
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:54 PM
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48. Also fine by me. Imagine a cell witha woman's touch,
especially hers?

ROFL
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TN al Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:34 PM
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39. F. Scott Fitzgerald...
...I would rather have a man of letters in there because he would be eloquent and Fitzgerald would be used to being drunk so it would probably not hinder him too much.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:39 PM
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42. Same thoughts with me and Dorothy Parker
Well, with one or two extra thoughts thrown in.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:37 PM
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40. Mae West
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:15 AM
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84. we can ask her what the Ediacaran was like!
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:39 PM
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43. Susan B.
my hero, but she wouldn't have been drunk. A Quaker ya know, and a Temperance Lady.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:46 PM
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46. Tom Waits
Cliche, I know.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:23 PM
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54. I'd like to be stuck betwixt Tom Waits and Shane MacGowan, myself.
Although Shane's stench would be overpowering at that distance.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:50 PM
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47. Drunk tank encounters
If I could speak the language rather than just read some of it, I'd pick Nefertiti to find out all the details of the Amarna period, like was she really Smenkhare, who were Tutankhamon's parents and did Meketaten really die in childbirth. Otherwise Elizabeth I. She knew how to party.

There is a book by Wilhelm Hendrick van Loon, called Van Loon's Lives, that does something like this. For a year, Van Loon is given the ability to invite guests from history to his home for dinner. Each chapter is a different dinner. He goes into the details of the menu and the wines he's serving, which are interesting. If I recall correctly, at one of the dinners he invites Napoleon and his own great grandfather who was a veteran of the Grand Armee. It's been years since I read it. I believe that the copyright is pre-World War II. I'll have to see if my mom's copy is still around.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:56 PM
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49. Dostoevsky
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 02:58 PM
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50. Miyamoto Musashi
actually i'd rather be his student
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:51 PM
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66. Musashi
I'm actually reading "Book of Five Rings" right now. Fascinating man, on the level of Sun Tzu.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:07 AM
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82. a verry skilled
atrist as well, an artist, teacher, swordsman, and i bet going out drinking with him would be an experience
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:21 PM
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53. not fair
T.E. Lawrence would have been my 1st choice too. Seven Pillars of Wisdom is one of my all time favorite reads and super background for understanding the ME.
H.L. Mencken would be a very lively conversation. And he would be drunk too.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:25 PM
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55. Mark Twain
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:25 PM
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56. Errol Flynn n/t
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:31 PM
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58. John Adams
that dude would be a kick
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:31 PM
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59. Edgar Allan Poe or Jesus.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:33 PM
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60. William Faulkner!
I'd finally find out if he just forgot that Quentin Compson killed himself at Yale when he sat down to write "A Rose For Emily"
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Atlanticist Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 04:36 PM
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61. The great Dr Johnson
my hero - a self-made man, who was simply the wittiest conversationalist who ever lived. Read an abridged version of Boswells life of Johnson if you get a chance. What a great man. Here's a quote of his about *

"Why Sir, * is dull, naturally dull; but it must have taken him a great deal of pains to become what we now see him. Such an excess of stupidity Sir, it is not in Nature."

In addition, he was a truly honourable man, who fought against slavery and imperialism abroad, and poverty at home. Harold Bloom described him simply "as good as he was great". That's a pretty cool epitaph.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:42 PM
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65. blechhh
I wouldn't like to get thrown in the drunk tank with ANYONE!
(been there, done that, didn't enjoy it.) :)
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:52 PM
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67. Ben Franklin
A partier, and I'd probably learn something to boot.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:13 PM
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71. Same here...
I'd love to hear his stories from when he was in France and about his prowess with women.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:56 PM
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68. Lee Harvey Oswald.
I have some questions.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:59 PM
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69. Alfred Hitchcock
I'm in a very macabre mood at the moment.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:15 PM
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72. Charles Bukowski, Eugene Debs, Woody Guthrie, and Jerry Garcia
would be quite an evening.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:25 PM
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73. Dylan Thomas
I actually went to the White Horse once or twice in my NYC days, but settled for a couple of microbrew ales, rather than eighteen straight whiskeys...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:27 PM
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75. 18 whiskeys could kill a man
eh, Dylan?
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:47 PM
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76. Emily Dickinson
And most of the other writers/artists folks have listed.

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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:49 PM
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77. Oh, and Judy Garland
Can you imagine the dish?

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:14 PM
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78. Machiavelli. I also wouldn't mind Jack London.
And Dorothy Parker.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:15 PM
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79. John Belushi
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:15 PM
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80. Jack Kerouac
I'm sure he'd have a great story to tell. Or three or four.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:16 PM
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81. Charles Bukowski
I'm not a poetry fan, but I like his work. I'd also like to go out and drink with him.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:09 AM
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83. Samuel Clemens would be a hoot eom
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:19 AM
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85. Laozi would be near the top of that list, along with Siddhartha Gautama
Basically all the big guys in religion and philosophy, from Moses on to Philip K Dick. I'd want a good long four hour chat with each of them. :D
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:22 AM
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86. Oscar Wilde
I hear he was a bottom.
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