Worst movie "curse word" over dubbing?

[underpants]

This hit me over the weekend when my wife ran across "Pretty in Pink", I wasn't aware of that many "curse words" but the scene in the autoshop with Ringwald and Hall was pretty much ruined.

Two movies spring directly to mind:

"Smokey and the Bandit"-Jackie Gleason was fantastic as Sheriff Buford T. Justice. His use of cussing was not excessive and it added to the character immensely, everyone could share in his aggravation.

"Bull Durham"-This movie isn't even worth watching when over dubbed. The whole spirit of the movie and the baseball lifestyle is washed away. The TNT edited version cuts out the entire argument between Crash (Costner) and the umpire in which Crash is purposely trying to get kicked out of the game.


Some movies treat swear words as part of the useful language and they add to the movie. The powers that be should simply warn people that it is unedited.

[terrya]

1. The movie "Network" was shown on television one time...

and at the end, when the network execs are discussing killing Howard Beale, instead of Diana Christensen (Faye Dunaway) saying "I don't see how we have any choice, Frank. Let's kill the son of a bitch", the line was edited to "let's kill the son of a gun". It was truly one of the dumbest, pointless edits I've ever seen in a movie.

People curse and swear in life. And some people need to stop acting like babies and realize it.

[bif]

2. "Scarface for Kids"

Just kidding. But if they cleaned that up, it probably wouldn't make any sense.

[demnan]

21. If they cleaned up Scarface

they'd have to make it a silent picture.

I think they did a miserable job with Blazing Saddles. Especially when Gene Wilder says, "the little kid shot me in the you know" the you know? they wouldn't allow ass?

They were the asses!

[ironflange]

41. Blazing Saddles

Don't forget the campfire scene!

[Fenris]

3. Any movie which makes use of "farging icehole"

I agree on "Smokey and the Bandit." "Scum-buzzard" lacks the charm of Gleason's eloquently delivered "sum-bitch!"

[underpants]

4. Scum-buzzard

The first time I saw the dubbed version and heard that I knew that I should just go ahead and change the channel.

[Fenris]

13. They totally slaughtered Jerry Reed's lines, too.

"Hold on to your ass, Fred" was replaced by "Hold on to your head, Fred." How much sense does that make, asking a dog to hold on to his head? And when he checks Sally Field out and says, "Nice ass!" the censors replaced it with "Nice lady!"

:eyes:

[GOPisEvil]

16. Uh, except "Johnny Dangerously", right?

My dad hung me on a hook once. Once.

It's an .88 Magnum. It goes through schools.

[TheMightyFavog]

56. Hey!

Don't go dissing Johnny Dangerously! That movie was hilarious!

[Beware the Beast Man]

5. I don't know about curse word dubbing,

but I saw something last night that made me scatch my head. "The Birdcage" was on VH1 last night. There is a scene where Hank Azaria is in the background cleaning the pool while singing "Lady Marmalade." In the original version, he is dressed in nothing but a g-string bikini with his ass cheeks showing. In last night's version, he had on a pair of CGI swim trunks. I really think this censorship thing is going too far, if you ask.

[Commendatori]

6. Help me with the title of this one

Bruce Willis was a one-star general, martial law was declared, terrorists blew up a bus, we started internment camps for Arabs...

Denzel Washington was messing with Willis, who said "Don't you ever question my patriotism..."

Of course, in the time I took to type this, I could have looked it up, but whatever this movie is called, it's my answer to the question.




Edited to remove stupid typo

[Supormom]

9. Under Siege

[southpaw]

10. I think it's called "The Seige" or something like that...

[troublemaker]

18. "The Siege"

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0133952/combined

[Commendatori]

23. That's it, thanks.

That's the one where a lot of the cursing was replaced by ridiculous substitutes.

[vi5]

7. One instance where I thought it worked better....

In the original vacation movie, where they get lost in a bad neighborhood in Chicago, Chevy chase asks someone for directions and the guy responds "Hey F*ck your mother" or something like that.

When they play it on network TV they overdub the line "What do I look like, Christopher Columbo?"

For some reason I always thought that line was much funnier than the original.

[Torgo4]

12. Stripes---Great Mild Curse Recognized by all Army Folks!

At the orientation briefing, Warren Oates orders his Corporal to supervise this "comedian" (recruit Bill Murray) doing 50 push-ups.

The corporal shouts: "Get your goat-smelling ass out that door!!!!"

Network/Cable version has the corporal shouting: "Move it Meathead!"

Took away such a sweet, sentimental tough of basic training.

[quispquake]

8. Cheech & Chong's Up In Smoke...

I remember the first time it was shown on some broadcast network, any pot references were changed to "Diamonds"...I mean, what the hell was that?????

[southpaw]

11. I was watching "Pulp Fiction" on Lifetime....

...No, I wasn't.

That's just ludicrous...

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

14. TNT are THE worst MOVIE BUTCHERS of all time.

I was watching "Ed TV" and they cut the network exec giving the board of directors the finger! A finger-flipping, and they cut it! Who runs TNT, John Ashcroft?

[underpants]

22. Yes they are quite horrible

It must come from their start as a regional network in the Southeast, what with Southern Baptists and Southern "sensibilities" 'n' all.

[troublemaker]

15. Actor William Macy tells a David Mamet story about

Mamet overseeing the TV dubbing of one of his films. For those not familiar with Mamet, of all major American playwrights he's the one most closely associated with bad language. Not surprisingly, Mamet has considerable contempt for the TV dubbing process and enjoys intentionally absurd replacements.

The line in question: "Get out... Get out of my motherfucking house!"

Mamet changed it to: "Get out... Get out of my freshly vacuumed house."

[Fenris]

19. Hahahahaha!

Great idea.

[southpaw]

20. I love Mamet!

Wrote a graduate paper on "Glengarry Glen Ross" and "American Buffalo"

One scholarly article I used in my research was entitled: David Mamet: Virtuoso of Invective. Amen, brotha!

[Gunit_Sangh]

17. Harlem Nights

I saw a "G" version of this movie on one of the cable channels a few months ago. It was horrible.

This movie has curse words in every other sentence, but it's appropriate and hilarious. In several scenes Della Reese said "Kiss my ass" or "Kiss my ENTIRE ass" or some kind of variation of it.

In the "G" rated version, all the curse words were dubbed over. Sometimes just bleeped, but for Della Reese, they dubbed "Tush" over "Ass". It was so bad I had to change the channel.

If you're not offended by curse words, this is one of the most hilarious movies I have ever seen. Well worth the rental fee. We loved it so much, this is one of the few movies we bought.

[KAMouflage]

24. The Jerk

Hands down, the worst. Steve Martin's dog, "Sh**head" is changed to "Stupid." ("C'mon, Stupid!") Blech!

[underpants]

27. And they changed it to "as my girlfriend has promised me a JOB"

Totally cut the BJ reference and joke out of it.

I remember when I saw the dumbed version the first time and when I heard "Stupid" well I knew it wouldn't be the same movie.

[ironflange]

42. I first saw that movie on network TV

I spent several yars of my life thinking the dog's name really was "Stupid." One of Mrs. Ironflange's friends set me straight, then laughed at me for at least ten minutes.

[truthspeaker]

25. not a curse word, but a drug reference: Caddy Shack

Original:

Chevy Chase: "Do you take drugs, Danny?"

Danny: "Yes, every day."

Chevy Chase: "Good"

on TV (during the Nancy Reagan anti-drug hysteria):

Chevy Chase: "Do you take drugs, Danny?"

Danny: "Nooooo."

Chevy Chase: "Good"

[DS1]

26. The Big Lebowski

Do you see what happens when you meet a stranger in the Alps?
Do you see what happens when you meet a stranger in the Alps?

(in leiu of Do you see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass)

[russian33]

28. 'Goodfellas' and 'Casino'

'Goodfellas' especially....if you watch it on TV, you miss half the freakin movie, Joe Pesci doesn't even have a speaking part...

[mkultra]

29. MotherSucker

Mothersucker is my favorite replacement cus word they have used.

[underpants]

30. monkee father

I think I have heard that one.

[DS1]

31. Flip you!! repeatedly, The Breakfast Club

[underpants]

32. You "stink"!

Oooh I stink.

[RandomKoolzip]

33. Amazon Women on the Moon and the Blues Brothers.

In the original, there's a scene where Arsenio Hall yells, "The Bitch don't live here! Fuck you too!" into a phone. The TV version goes: "The witch don't live here! Forget you too!" Stupid.

In the Blues Brothers, the scene when Elwood picks up Jake and Jake accuses him of lying, the original goes: " I wasn't lying, I was just....bullshittin'."

The TV version goes: "I wasn't lying, I was just....Bamboozlin'." "BAMBOOZLIN'?!" Double-you tee eff, man?

[tjwash]

34. scarface...

nt

[wysimdnwyg]

35. Die Hard

Not only is there a TON of profanity needing to be dubbed, the voices don't sound ANYTHING like the actors being dubbed. Just awful.

[lpbk2713]

37. The funniest thing I ever heard was in Die Hard III

When they said "maggot farmer" .......... I still think it's funny.

[AG78]

50. That's the one

that pops in my head. I thought it was "mellon farmer", but either one makes me crack up for 5 straight minutes every time.

[CO Liberal]

36. "American Graffiti"

When they show it on regular TV, the numerous references to "shit" and "chickenshit" are replaced with "stuff" and "chickenstuff".

:-)

[LTR]

38. Scarface

Check out the 20th Anniversary DVD. They have a hilarious tribute to the dubbed version.

[underpants]

44. Really that's funny

I don't know if I have ever seen the edited version of Scarface I would probably last about 10 minutes before I got tired of it.

[PittPoliSci]

39. Mr. Show with Bob and David

There was a really funny bit on there about a show called Pallies, which was like a mobster type thing, except it was edited for TV. The guys kept calling each other "mother fathers" and there was a scene where a guy gave someone the finger, but the film was edited to have a thumbs up appearing over it, but you could still see what was going on with the middle finger.

It was really funny, they were skipping around, you couldn't understand what was going on because of the editing, and they were cutting out large parts of it due to violence. It is one of my favorites from that show.

[Colin Ex]

40. Mallrats.

Forget that stuff, Silent Bob!

-C

[ironflange]

43. Saturday Night Fever, Terminator 2

MuchMoreMusic sometimes runs SNF as its weekend movie. The late night run is uncut, but they run another version in the afternoon that has so much removed that it really doesn't make any sense at all.

T2: Ahnold's frequent use of "dickwad" becomes "dorkwad."

[Westegg]

45. If you can't show a movie un-cut, DON'T FUCKING SHOW IT!

God, I HATE movies on TV, airplanes, wherever, that need to clean up the language. Anyone ever seen a cleaned-up version of "Scarface" on network? I have. Along with "Godfather" and a bunch of other films whose brilliant, authentic dialogue was totally evicerated by the censors.

Most recent fucking disaster I saw was a few days ago: "The Breakfast Club." Smartly written, with some profanities appropriate to the subject and characters (teens in high-school detention in the mid '80s). At one point, Judd Nelson's character is on a rant about how fucked-up his alcoholic father is, and he's repeating dad's put-down of his mom. But every time the word "bitch" came up, they censored it to "wench." UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE! No alcoholic, domestic-violence-prone father of a dysfunctional family has ever called his wife a "wench"! And that was just the beginning of their soulless censoring of the langauge of a film that was made for, and loved by, teens everywhere.

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS? I got two words for 'em: "Freak you!"

[ScreamingMeemie]

46. Breakfast Club. The dubs don't make any sense at all.

Eat my socks instead of eat my shorts? and why was that taken out? His butt (instead of dick) is going to ride shotgun. What does that mean? Why not cut the scene.

I think you mean Sixteen Candles with the auto shop scene and I agree.

:hi:

[underpants]

48. Yes it was "Sixteen Candles"

Stupid brain

[ScreamingMeemie]

49. Heh. I'm putting myself out there by knowing scenes from 80's

teen movies that I can't seem to not watch whenever they are reran. ;)

[myrna minx]

47. Thelma & Louise

When Louise has the gun pointed at the man who had just raped Thelma...he says "Clean my clock..." instead of, you know. Then she shoots him. CLEAN MY CLOCK!?! That was the worst dubbing in history.

[Ricdude]

51. Re: Smokey and the Bandit...

It was dubbed for TV in the late '70s, when the standards for broadcast television were much more strict than they are now. I don't even think they'd have to dub much of the movie for today's viewing...

[underpants]

52. Probably true

They pretty much rushed that one to TV.

[ForrestGump]

53. "Apocalypse Now" is horrific in its censored form -- thank goodness

for the hour or tweo of ads that the network people insert, or there'd be no movie left.

[ForrestGump]

54. The replacement of "goddamn" with something else, or the 'bleeping'

(silent) of the "god" part, always leaves me nonplussed. So many movies allow mild profanity to slip through while censoring "goddamn." Weird. What's really weird is when these same movies show pretty graphic violence.

The US is NOT the country in which to watch feature films on network TV...people in other countries seem to be able to deal with uncensored movies airing on network TV without turning into clock-tower-climbing psychos and other assorted maniacs. The sharp dichotomy in the US between raving puritanism and exceptional decadence and sleaziness is, in my view, one of its most (messed)-up qualities, probably a big factor in the nation turning out (messed)-up citizens. God-dammmmmmmmmmn.

[ForrestGump]

55. "What About Bob"

Been racking my mind to think of the movie, and it was indeed this comedic classic. I saw it first as a taped network broadscast, and watched the tape numerous times. When I finally got the DVD I was surprised to find that "Buddy's Disease" was actually "Tourette's Disease." And the profanity in the original was also dubbed. I have to say that the dubbing was good, certainly good enough that I never suspected it. And maybe it's partly a result of my having become used to "Buddy's Disease" initially, but I actually think it's a better concept than using Tourette's.

At least the rest of the film was fine in its censored form. Some films are no worse for network censoring, and some are absolutely awful in their censored form.