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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:58 AM
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That was beyond depressing, Frontline, the day the music died
Here it had always been assumed that it was just a matter of passing the banner to the next generation and them making their new place in
the light, but it appears that corporate America is in charge of the sun.
Bye bye Miss American pie.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 05:15 AM
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1. See previous post. All we can do is put on the Tom Waits.
All the good musicians are selling their music out of their car trunks.
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 05:41 AM
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2. I started to watch, so....
Edited on Sat May-29-04 05:42 AM by ablbodyed
I don't know if they came to the reasonable conclusion that the music industry is dying for the simple fact that today's music is so empty: of real music, of spiritual content, af anything but shilling to the lowest commin denominator. Flame away.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 06:19 AM
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3. The human spirit and it's need for expression is more powerful than
any corporation. I didn't see the program (darn!) but will guess that it will follow the same path as the film industry and that independent music companies will be created. And it is always possible that the corporate canned and souless stuff will just stop selling.
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:24 AM
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7. Here's a link to all the information and
you can see when it is going to be rebroadcast in your area, heck maybe you have not missed it yet where you are. Looks like it will be available online sometime today at this link

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/music/
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 06:38 AM
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4. The basic conclusions seem to be,
First the huge sums of money be made drew in the corporate world which does not cares about the units, how they are made who makes them or how good they are made, only how many wickets are shipped and sold and on a time table fitting in with their quartly profit reports.

Another main point was that with the passage of legislation that made it possible for ownership of a thousand radio stations, instead of many companys in charge of a dozen or so stations each it became for all intents and purposes a monopoly. If Clear channel doesn't like it or play it, it doesn't get played anywhere.

This was another telling observation but you will have to decide how to divide up the negatives of censorship and lack of caring about the product.

A guy, a producer it seemed said that wal-mart, bestbuys, and a third one, were over half of his market, and the guy says
" But my company means nothing to them "

He added that Wal-mart restricts the content of what they will offer for sale. Cut to a segment of the guy from Guns and roses talking about if they make a clean version of the the song in question they can sell 20 percent more units.

Ok time to check out tall buildings.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:07 AM
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5. Technology has made it possible
for fledgling musicians to make CDs of their work. The problem is marketing. I have CDs and tapes by some real musicians, and I got them from the musicians personally. I think the best way to support real music is to go to concerts and buy the music direct from the source.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 07:24 AM
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6. "The problem is marketing"
And what do you think the real reason is behind the RIAA's fight against Napster, et al?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 08:03 AM
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8. I don't know
because I don't know about "the Napster thing".
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:44 PM
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9. Napster
and all peer to peer file sharing is currently under brutal attack by the RIAA as "piracy" and the reason their sales are plummeting. Napster was shut down, and they're after Kazaa now.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:50 PM
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10. If file-sharing really does destroy the recording industry...
... then I for one will be delighted. The sooner the corporate stranglehold on media is broken, the better. Take away RIAA, take away Big Broadcasting, and give us back art and ideas!


Mary
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