TheWizardOfMudd
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:15 AM
Original message |
"MacArthur Park" by Richard Harris: Love it or hate it? |
|
I downloaded some Glen Campbell songs for my collection years ago and ended up doing research on the songwriter, Jimmy Webb. I was surprised to find that he wrote "MacArthur Park."
In the course of the research, I came upon web sites with themes as, "Worst Songs Ever," and "Greatest Songs Ever." "MacArthur Park" figured prominently on all of the web sites, pro and con.
What a divisive song!
Love it, or hate it?
Personally, I love it because I figure Johnny Carson does.
|
laura888
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:16 AM
Response to Original message |
|
But I'm curious - why do you care what Johnny Carson thinks?
|
TheWizardOfMudd
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
|
In my mind, I just imagine the song defines a time period in which someone like Johnny Carson would have become hip to it while he was in between divorces.
I never thought of it as a song for very young people, at the time.
|
Art_from_Ark
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
21. I was in elementary school at the time it came out |
|
and I loved it-- especially the instrumental part. 1968 was a terrible year for America, but a pretty good year for me, and that song brings back good memories. And, being in Arkansas, the rumor was that the song was about MacArthur Park in Little Rock.
I also remember hearing it on a "golden oldies" station in 1986 right after they announced that the Democrats had taken back the Senate-- so actually, MacArthur Park brings back good memories of two years for me.
|
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:17 AM
Response to Original message |
2. I like Donna Summers' MacArthur Park... |
joeybee12
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #2 |
23. Yup, MacArthur Park is a stupid song, but GREAT Disco! |
salin
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:18 AM
Response to Original message |
3. can't help it... love it. But hated the remix. |
elperromagico
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:22 AM
Response to Original message |
5. It's not a bad song musically, |
|
but that cake metaphor has never sat well with me.
|
pagerbear
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
27. Mmmmmmmm............cake............... |
|
Edited on Sun May-30-04 07:48 AM by pagerbear
...all that sweet green icing flowing down.........
|
moof
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:25 AM
Response to Original message |
6. Love the song, Love Harris, Like his rendition of it. |
Dirk39
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:38 AM
Response to Original message |
7. Love love love love love it.... |
|
Edited on Sun May-30-04 12:41 AM by Dirk39
I love THAT song, I love the stupid lyrics, I love and admire and celebrate the click-clack bass sound, which was invented by Bert Kaempfert, who grew up about 2 miles from where I'm sitting now in Germany: the guy, who did write strangers in the night for Sinatra. And being an amateurish bass-player: to figure that one out, is harder than some of James Jamerson's Motown-classics. I luuuuuve it, Hello from Germany, Dirk
|
mitchum
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:39 AM
Response to Original message |
8. It was surprising to find out that the great Jimmy Webb... |
|
wrote that atrocity, wasn't it? Not even in the same league as "Wichita Lineman, By The Time I Get To Phoenix, and "Galveston" (great songs all)
|
wtmusic
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:45 AM
Response to Original message |
9. The bizarre, oversized track |
|
is a perfect fit for the bizarre, oversized lyrics.
Love it. :thumbsup:
|
ClintonTyree
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 12:56 AM
Response to Original message |
|
with a passion. To me it's the most inane piece of tripe ever. Richard Harris as an actor wasn't bad, I loved "Man in the Wilderness" but his singing drove me up the wall.
|
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:00 AM
Response to Original message |
11. Hate it. Detest it. Loathe it. Can't stand it. But Donna Summers' |
|
disco remake is an improvement....this may be partly because hers is the version I first knew, and it has situational nostalgic associations, but she also has a better voice and the thing doesn;t lurch along quite so interminably as does old Ricardo's original.
My favorite, of course, was Elvis' off-the-cuff a capella rendition during the taping of his '68 TV Special, in a falsetto that he continued with a similar tribute to "Tiptoe Through The Tulips." One reason that this is my favorite is that it lasts but a few seconds.
|
TheWizardOfMudd
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
12. Perhaps, some day, . . . |
|
Edited on Sun May-30-04 01:18 AM by TheWizardOfMudd
. . . you will be able to step outside yourself and objectively evaluate a song in the context of its time, place or period, including the author's and singer's contemporaneous pop sensibilities, which may be unique to a framework defined by a temporary or flowing artistic culture, in which case your emotions may subside and your knowledge will overcome.
|
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #12 |
|
you'll stop playing provocateur, stop spouting pretentious crap, and stop making broad and deep assumptions about people that you don't even know.
|
TheWizardOfMudd
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
14. You hate, detest, loathe and can't stand a song! |
|
What did it do to make you feel this way?
|
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #14 |
18. That's my prerogative, to quote a stupid Bobby Brown song |
|
What it did to me was to play in my vicinity. It traumatized me. I'm hating it in self-defence.
|
Wapsie B
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:35 AM
Response to Original message |
15. Only if Maynard Ferguson plays |
|
his rendition of it. But even at that, it's far from the Boss's best work.
|
Hotler
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #15 |
28. I've seen Maynard do that piece live. |
|
He blew the whole house away. He always has a good band behind. Lots of power and talent.
|
blackcat77
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:55 AM
Response to Original message |
|
But it was long and obscure so that made it "groovy." If you smoked enough dope, it was tolerable.
The other song he did sorta like this one was "The Yard Went On Forever." All these years later and I still can't figure out EITHER of them.
|
NightTrain
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 01:57 AM
Response to Original message |
17. It's a piece of shit. |
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 02:01 AM
Response to Reply #17 |
19. Perhaps, some day, . . . |
|
. . you will be able to step outside yourself and objectively evaluate a song in the context of its time, place or period, including the author's and singer's contemporaneous pop sensibilities, which may be unique to a framework defined by a temporary or flowing artistic culture, in which case your emotions may subside and your knowledge will overcome.
Or so I've heard.
|
TheWizardOfMudd
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 02:03 AM
Response to Original message |
20. I just looked up the lyrics |
|
Spring was never waiting for us, girl It ran one step ahead As we followed in the dance Between the parted pages and were pressed In love's hot, fevered iron Like a striped pair of pants
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again Oh, no!
I recall the yellow cotton dress Foaming like a wave On the ground around your knees The birds, like tender babies in your hands And the old men playing checkers by the trees
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again Oh, no!
There will be another song for me For I will sing it There will be another dream for me Someone will bring it I will drink the wine while it is warm And never let you catch me looking at the sun And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life You'll still be the one
I will take my life into my hands and I will use it I will win the worship in their eyes and I will lose it I will have the things that I desire And my passion flow like rivers through the sky And after all the loves of my life After all the loves of my life I'll be thinking of you And wondering why
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again Oh, no! Oh, no No, no Oh no!!
|
newyawker99
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 05:52 AM
Response to Original message |
22. I hate this song and it doesn't matter who sings it. |
DemExpat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 07:02 AM
Response to Original message |
24. Mixed....LOVE it while it irritates me..... |
GalleryGod
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 07:23 AM
Response to Original message |
25. Jimmy Webb was a fabulous songwriter! Used to Appear on Glen's Show |
|
Wrote "By the Time I Get to Phoenix" in 20 minutes:crazy:
|
Trajan
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 07:46 AM
Response to Original message |
|
But I am quite sure that Bruce Springsteen was 'inspired' by this song when he wrote 'Born to Run' .... not lyrically, but musically ...
The coda has the same intense, step-wise, atonal bridge development before returning to the final verse .... which is in itself a grand recapitulation of the main theme, sung with the highest vocal intensity and emotion ....
There is a WHOLE LOT of 'MacArthur Park' in 'Born to Run' ...
|
Gildor Inglorion
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sun May-30-04 09:15 AM
Response to Original message |
29. I love it; always have |
|
It was one of those songs we heard on AM radio and tried to understand the lyrics and fathom the deeper meaning hidden within (hey, it was 1968!) And as someone earlier noted, a little bit o' Mother Nature didn't hurt, either. And, as much as I loved Richard Harris, the boy couldn't sing. "Camelot" (the movie)was released in 1968, also; at least that's when I first saw it. What a crushing disappointment. All that incredible talent so hopelessly mis-cast.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Fri May 03rd 2024, 06:53 AM
Response to Original message |