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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:41 PM
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Poll question: Lizzie Borden took an ax?
Edited on Sun May-30-04 02:42 PM by elperromagico
Was Lizzie Borden guilty of the murder of her father and stepmother in 1892?

If not, who did it?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:42 PM
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1. Alright!
I became the very first one to condemn Lizzie.!
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:51 PM
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2. Who's Lizzie Borden?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:54 PM
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4. This ought to tell you what you need to know:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:54 PM
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5. Just do a quick Google of "Lizzie Borden"...
on a Summer's day in 1892 Lizzie's father and Stepmother were bludgeoned to death with an 'axe', (actually a hatchet). There is a wealth of fact and conspiracy you can delve into.

:)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:51 PM
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3. The Lizzie Borden Case has been one of those cases where...
the circumstantial evidence built up against her was overwhelming, but w/o todays forensics, it would have been difficult to convict her.

I believe she did it. The motive was there, the applicable tool was there, Lizzie was there.....and she gained a good deal of money and notoriety from the ensuing situation. Her sister left her after a couple of years, and they never spoke again, (after being relatively close).

The case, looked at w/moderm forensic tools and historical data, pretty well put Lizzie in the hot seat. Some evidence is missing...but more than enough, I believe, to convict her in a modern court.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:55 PM
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6. of course she did it
Edited on Sun May-30-04 02:56 PM by JohnKleeb
who else would have?
ps playdoh
here's my cast list
Lizzie Borden: Tom Cruise
Mr. Andrew Borden: Al Pacino
Mrs. Borden Brittany Spars
Prosecutor: George W Bush
Defense Attorney: Ben Stiller
12 members of the jury: J-Lo, Robert DeNiro, Mike Myers, Michael Jackson, Toby Keith, Robin Williams, Courtney Love, Lorraine Bracco, Alice Cooper, Michael Jordan, Cher, Ray Liotta
Judge: Judge Judy.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:57 PM
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8. I think you did it, Kleeb.
Edited on Sun May-30-04 02:57 PM by elperromagico
A shadowy Kleeb-like figure is visible in several photographs from the day of the crime...

;)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:58 PM
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9. we were in the old country man
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:59 PM
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10. A likely story.
A likely fucking story. :P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:00 PM
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11. honestly!
:D
Yes I killed the Limbaugh baby ;).
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:01 PM
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12. Yes, but the afterbirth is on the radio 3 hours a damn day.
Nice work.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:02 PM
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13. I tried :(
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:56 PM
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7. Elizibeth Borden took an ax, and gave her father forty whacks....
And when the Job was nicley done, she gave her mother forty-one!

Yesterday in old Fall River, Mr. Andrew Borden died
And he got his daughter Lizzie on a charge of homicide
Some folks say she didn't do it, and others say of course she did
But they all agree Miss Lizzie B. was a problem kind of kid

'Cause you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Not even if it's planned as a surprise (a surprise)
No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
You know how neighbors love to criticize

She got him on the sofa where he'd gone to take a snooze
And I hope he went to heaven 'cause he wasn't wearing shoes
Lizzie kindly rearranged him with a hatchet so they say
Then she got her mother in that same old-fashioned way!

But you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
Not even if you're tired of her cuisine (her cuisine)
No, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
You know it's almost sure to cause a scene

Well, they really kept her hoppin' on that busy afternoon
With both down- and up-stairs chopping while she hummed a ragtime tune
They really made her hustle and when all was said and done
She'd removed her mother's bustle when she wasn't wearing one

Oh, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts!
And then blame all the damage on the mice (on the mice)
No, you can't chop your mama up in Massachusetts
That kind of thing just isn't very nice

Now, it wasn't done for pleasure and it wasn't done for spite
And it wasn't done because the lady wasn't very bright
She'd always done the slightest thing that mom and pop had bid
They said, "Lizzie, cut it out," so that's exactly what she did

But you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
And then get dressed and go out for a walk (for a walk)
No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Massachusetts is a far cry from New York

No, you can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Shut the door, and lock and latch it, here comes Lizzie with a brand new hatchet
You can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Such a snob, I've heard it said, she met her pa and cut him dead
You can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Jump like a fish, jump like a porpoise, all join hands and habeas corpus
You can't chop your papa up in Massachusetts
Massachusetts is a far cry from New York!


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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:09 PM
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14. Three people have answered "No."
Who do you think did it, then? :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:10 PM
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15. I believe it was President Coolidge honest :)
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:11 PM
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16. Quit trying to cover up for your murderous deeds.
Edited on Sun May-30-04 03:12 PM by elperromagico
I have evidence that puts you at the scene of the Borden murders, and I'm gonna nail you to the wall!!!

In the words of Sgt. Hartman in Full Metal Jacket: "I got your NAME! I GOT YOUR ASS!!!"
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:15 PM
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17. sure!
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