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Sun May-30-04 07:36 PM
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TREKKIES!! **Reminder** Enterprise repeats tonight |
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The last two episodes of Enterprise for the season will be repeating tonight. I believe the times were 11:00pm and 12:00am EST
just in case you missed them! :)
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Sun May-30-04 07:40 PM
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1. just caught the season ender at 7:00 on local UPN affiliate |
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If the wreck that has become Trek ever fully recovers, people will point to that EP as the start, IMO.
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Sun May-30-04 07:54 PM
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to do the whole prequel thing.
That was a major mistake IMO and has killed star trek, or at least put it into hibernation for about a decade.
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Sun May-30-04 08:05 PM
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Several things have hurt Trek:
First and formost was more Sci-Fi competition on TV.
Also, after several superior seasons of DS9, writing on Voyager was very sloppy.
ST:Insurection was a turkey of a movie, and it's weigh dragged down Nemesis (which wasn't BAD... just wasn't real good.)
"Birth of the Federation" was a very popular video game but Berman failed to capitalize on that when he launched "Enterprise."
Not so much that a prequel was a bad idea but rather it's execution sucked in ENT's first two seasons.
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Sun May-30-04 08:12 PM
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That B&B are even more reckless than JT Kirk vis a vis temporal violations (a few more than Kirk's reported 17)
To save the franchise they should have one hard and fast rule: Anyone who brings up time travel in a story pitch meeting will be shot!
--MAB
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Sun May-30-04 08:13 PM
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Sun May-30-04 08:14 PM
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6. I love time travel episodes |
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I think to save Enterprise, they might need to violate canon a bit and go ahead and start up the Romulan wars.
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Sun May-30-04 08:53 PM
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Edited on Sun May-30-04 08:56 PM by markbark
Enterprise being a prequal, before the Federation... OK, I'm good with that. Having Lt. Reed 'invent' force fields... fine, why not? (although why he then doesn't extrapolate the tech to provide shields around the ship or at least around critical systems I still haven't figured out) I'll even be willing to take some light hearted trips around the ol' temporal neighbourhood. (The DS9 Tribbles episode comes to mind) but this Deus ex Machina "Hey let's blow up the Earth/the Enterprise/the quadrant only to have Crewman Daniels wave his magic wand to muck with the timeline thus putting all things right" crap has got to stop!
It's dishonest, it's crap and worst of all, it's bad storytelling.
The Star Trek universe has a lot of cool possibilities, ESPECIALLY in this "Wild West" pre-Federation era. Explore the developing relationship between Earth and Vulcan. Show what happened to piss off the Klingons into hating the Federation. Bring on the Andorians and Tellarites!
I do agree with your idea about the Romulan war story arc (although I hope it's not as dragged out and dreary as the Klingon Civil War of DS9 seasons 4 and 5)
--MAB
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Sun May-30-04 09:28 PM
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8. I like ALL of the star treks... |
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I'm a geek...and I love Enterprise for some reason. The plot is interesting and enganging...the planet has been attacked and is going to get a deathblow unless the enterprise saves it...They must solve the puzzle and defeatt a technologically superior enemy with relatively primitive technology by Trek standards...I also like how they are just coming into contact with some of the species that play bigger roels in the earlier (or later) treks. Good stuff.
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Sun May-30-04 09:38 PM
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10. Enterprise lost me right at the beginning. |
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The characters and the plots were cut-outs with no real thought put into them, and everything was contrived and nonsensical to the point where I couldn't suspend my disbelief with a crane. I have no patience for such crap. I stopped watching Enterprise after two episodes, and have not regretted it once.
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Sun May-30-04 09:42 PM
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11. You should be one of those media critics that hates everything... |
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..except the arthouse movies no one else has ever heard of. :)
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Sun May-30-04 09:29 PM
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Edited on Sun May-30-04 09:58 PM by leftyandproud
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Mon May-31-04 12:33 AM
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12. Much ado about nothing special (spoilers) |
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Lots of action, with good effects (though clearly computer generated, it's going to age badly), but all seemingly pointless. (of course, the one enemy ship design looks a LOT like the Son'a ship design from "Insurrection", so so much for inventiveness...)
And, apparently, Archer and everybody ends up in WW II Germany. Sigh... no explanation given. I may as well go to McDonalds and tell them I'm their new CEO.
Worst of all, there is no "to be continued" sign, which at the time the episode got to post-production, that the series was at high risk of being cancelled. I gather there will be a 4th season ( :eyes: ) so why they didn't put in "To be continued" is beyond me...
And then came the end credits which reeked of 80s electric guitar. :puke:
If this is an example of how "Enterprise" has improved, they can just cancel it now and save themselves the $1 mililon per episode cost or whatever astronomical amount it costs to make and leave Archer to the Nazis...
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Mon May-31-04 01:45 AM
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13. I don't think it was WW2 germany.. |
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I think it was modern day America...when they blew up the sphere thingie and the time distortion thing rippled elminating the "expanse", it probably messed up earth's history...now the enterprise is the only human vessel in space, and they need to figure out how to fix the timeline with the help of other races, and noone from the future federation to help them out..
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