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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:40 PM
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So much for the "All Jews are Rich" theory...
Every time I hear RWers go off about how the Jews run everything and that all Jews are rich and money grubbers I ponder... Where the hell is my "JEW CHECK"? I keep going to the mailbox to look for the damn thing and it is never there.

Any of you other DU Jews gettin your check? Did I miss filling out a form or something?

</sarcasm off>
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:42 PM
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1. No check. Bills. Demands. No check.
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 12:43 PM by aquart
Is there a list? Can we get on the list?

On edit: Maybe forget about the list. Jews and lists? The image is...difficult.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:43 PM
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3. That's what I want to know...
Did I miss the day at Temple when they handed out the forms?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:57 PM
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13. The Harvard Study in the late 70's show average income just ahead of Black
and hispanics.

Not that the bias means less income - it just seems that way.

Folks have no clue how it is to find jobs if you are in the wrong group - and no clue as to how little small storefront services and sales operations actually pull in in terms of income and wealth.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:03 PM
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18. I also must of missed that day
I wish i had the money i'm always accused of having.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:08 PM
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23. Me too...
I wish I had 1/10th of the amount the psychos believe we all have. I'd never have to work again.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:05 PM
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21. You missed the day they were handing out grandparents.
Mine left me a little something (I write the check myself) but with the low interest rates, it's been shrinking.
I've been selling things on ebay and offering my ebaying instructional services to friends at $25 an hour. That seems to include reinitializing their peripherals. For ladies who have a lot of stuff to sell, the fact that they can have a woman holding their hand while they do this seems to be comforting.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:07 PM
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22. Looks like it...
I musta got there late and got the left-over grandparents. My relatives are poorer than I am. I got an uncle that actually lives in a trailer!
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:43 PM
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2. No doubt!!
I've been a broke-ass for years now...what gives?? :grr:

I want my slice of the non-leavened pie!! :P
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:46 PM
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7. Me too!
There is an old joke about a couple of old Jewish men sitting around reading their newspapers. The one looks at the other and notices that he is reading an anti-Semitic rag. He says to the guy, Why are you reading that! It's horrible!

The other guy says, well at least in this paper it says that we own everything and rule the world!
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hrhdeb Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:43 PM
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4. I'm a Jew from the wrong side of the tracks
I know exactly what you mean. People always assume that I am wealthy when they find out that I am Jewish. When I was younger, most people assumed I would end up a doctor or a lawyer. Here I am as a starving artist. Even other Jews don't really know what to make of that.

deb

http://www.votewhileyoustillcan.com/item_pages/unisex_t.html
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:57 PM
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12. I get that a lot...
When we go to temple it is had to explain to the other "Professionals" that I am a commercial artist and that my hubby is an out-of-work animator.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:36 PM
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34. IIRC, a good 20% of Israelis live in poverty
blows that theory right out of the water.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:44 PM
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5. Is there a waiting period for converts?
:shrug:

Do you get a bigger check if you're Orthodox versus Reform?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:46 PM
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6. *shrug*
I don't know. I'm an Orthodox (lapsed) Jew and I still don't get a big fat check. I must have missed something...

Hawkeye-X
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:51 PM
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10. Maybe they hand the forms out on less important holidays...
like Jewish Arbor day or something...
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:48 PM
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8. I dunno...
I'd think it would be the Reform ones who'd get the fatter checks. most of your Hollywood Jews are EXTREMELY Reform.

I dunno about the waiting period for converts though. Maybe that is what the problem is....
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:50 PM
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9. What, you didn't get your form in the mail?
Heck, I filled mine out a couple of years ago. Now I'm getting ready to buy my own private Caribbean island.

:eyes:

-MR
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:52 PM
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11. NO!
You got a copy of that form I could use? Maybe I could download it somewhere?:P
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:04 PM
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19. Sure, here's the address.
www.theeldersofzionwhowanttotakeovertheworld.org

On another note, you can actually buy "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" from Amazon.com. They have two versions: one has a scholarly analysis systematically debunking the Protocols as anti-semitic propaganda.

The other version doesn't.

:scared:

-MR
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:59 PM
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14. I think that they sent your checks to us homosexuals by mistake...
...after all we're all billionaires now, you know! :)

Was wondering why there was a Star of David and no pink triangle on the letter. NOW I know... :bounce:
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:04 PM
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20. So there is a huge homosexual agenda?
DAMN! And I was defending you guys too. Little did I know you were snaking our checks!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:00 PM
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15. I think it's opt-out but not opt-in
I had a friend in high school who actually came from those "Jews-rule-the-world" circles. Her family considered the Rothschilds nouveau rich, and her grandmother's friends would sit around gossiping about how Henry Kissinger didn't call his mother often enough.

Last I heard, she'd married a sheetrock worker from Texas and was heading off to have his babies.

I didn't notice the secret cabal advertising for a replacement, though.

;-)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:00 PM
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16. That sounds like something a rich Jew would say.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. All that self-deprication.

/sarcasm off
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:01 PM
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17. Check your Inbox (nt)
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:12 PM
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24. My husband is Jewish and he's still waiting too
Funny, so's the rest of his family. Maybe they're just being sneaky and hiding it from me, the shiksa! }(
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:16 PM
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28. No $$ for shiksas!
You don't get to get gravy just because you know the boat there missy!
:crazy: :silly:
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:31 PM
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31. So it IS all just an elaborate ruse!
I knew it, they're probably billionaires in reality. :mad:
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:12 PM
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25. heh...
sadly, though, i think that at this point, even here on DU, i hear as much crap on this issue from the left as i do from the right--it's pretty sickening.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:17 PM
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29. It really is...
But alas there are people out there that REALLY believe this kind of stuff.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:14 PM
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26. Unfortunatly anti-Jewish stereotypes are being heard more and more on
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 01:18 PM by Bombtrack
the left. Generalizing, the American hard-left, and European left. Although it's not really based in anything other than a scant few cases on racist propaganda, but much more on political propaganda.

I know nothing can get "anti-Zionists" more in a tizzy than the implication that anti-Zionism or being anti-Israel is the same thing as being anti-semitic. And that is technically true, they aren't the same exact thing, but it's incumbent apon these people to not ignore the obvious regularity with which old anti-semitic stereotypes seep into the language of so many prominent and vocal grassroots "anti-Zionists". How often have you heard "cabal", "manipulators", etc etc, applied to Jewish Zionists or, and I stress or, because they aren't even close to being the same thing, Neocons, that rarely is applied with equal stress or regularity to non-Jewish Zionists or non-Jewish neocons.

I know I got off topic ALOT from your initial post, but I think it's important that we critisize the critism of the jewish people not only coming from the right, but now the left as well. Because I think it's a lot more unlikely that we can change the minds of right-wing racist zealots than confused extreme lefties.

Adressing your main point, it's of course empty and anti-intellectual to claim that all jews are rich. However, if you do look at the statistics, Jews do earn per capita more than few other groups. This is of course not caused by a genetic superiority but a cultural and traditional disciplinary superiority. Having religious and cultural traditions that so heavily involve the rigirous learning of historic and linguistic material is something that no doubt shapes so many jewish peoples analytical minds so well, and of course the Jewish people do seem to have a tradition of placing respect and admiration on intellectual persuits over physical, something that has suited them well compared to the rest of America.

THere was a really good article somewhere, maybe Salon, that talked about this. I also read one comparing the early waves of Irish, Italian, and Jewish imigrants of a century and more ago, to the Asian, Hispanic, and black urban populations that took root at a later date in the cities and compared the populations generational similarities. They noted particular similarities between the Jewish populations that first established themselves a 100 or so years ago in the American cities to the Asian ones that have been for the second half of the 20th century.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:15 PM
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27. I'd like to say it's only RWers who think that
but I see anti-semitism on the left all too often too.There's plenty of valid criticisms of Israel imo,but those are being used as a springboard for the racist people to use against jews.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:21 PM
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30. Have you been coming to the conspiracy meetings regularly?
Last time I went to one I was put in charge of global titanium prices. You gotta show up - that's the essence of conspiracy, after all.

Actually that was just bullshit, I'm a broke-ass Jew, too.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:37 PM
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35. See I knew something was up!
Man if you don't get to the right sign-up sheets fast enough all the good committees are taken!
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:04 PM
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44. Try to get on banking.
It works the fastest. Avoid the Jew-run media, there's no money there at all until you worm your way up to the big-city dailies. And I should mention that the Kosher cooking seminar, while almost totally unprofitable, is a nice change of pace, plus you'll be able to ingratiate youself with the Learned Elders if you bake 'em a nice hammentashen once in awhile.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:33 PM
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32. I should convert!
Gay and Jew check??

Who's needs to work?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:36 PM
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33. I've been getting them regularly since I graduated law school, and my ex
the Jewish doctor has also been getting them.

Sorry...I guess I am the reason for the stereotype :evilfrown:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:38 PM
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36. That is so not fair....
You're already a billionaire because you're gay... what can one person do with all that money? Spread the wealth!!
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:38 PM
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37. Could you put in a good word for me at the meetings?
Maybe I'm missing my check because I'm not in the medical / legal committees.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:44 PM
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38. Whaaaaa.....? You want ten bucks?
You think 8 bucks grows on trees?
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Do you have any idea how hard I worked for that 5 bucks?

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Do you think 3 bucks isn't a lot of money?
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OK
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here's your dollar :D
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:46 PM
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40. Oh so now you are...
"Jewing" down one of your own people?
</man I can't believe I actually typed that!>
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:50 PM
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41. Industrious, ain't I?
It's my birthright ;)
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:52 PM
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42. So you are the reason for the stereotype...
Good for you! Keep up the good work!
Maybe if I looked more "Jewey" I'd start getting the benefits?
Maybe that is what it is. I don't look "Jewey" enough.
Or maybe a change in profession.

Thanks for the tips!
:pals:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:55 PM
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43. Try carrying a nail file with you everywhere you go
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:45 PM
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39. I was always mystified by that
I'm Jewish on my mother's side, and her relatives were all immigrants who didn't have a pot to piss in.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:56 PM
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45. You mean you're NOT in charge of all the banks???
Oy veh! :-)

<Yes, I am joking--in case anyone wasn't certain.)
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:08 PM
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46. I'm missing my Jew check too!
My mom is as well! Huh. Maybe those Republicans are going through our mail and taking it.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:30 PM
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47. That could be it...
You know Al Franken is a Jew too. Maybe we could call his show and ask him if he gets his check.
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:34 PM
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48. Good idea! What's the number? n/t
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