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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 04:52 PM
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When did "drinking the Kool-Aid" become such a popular phrase?
I don't recall hearing that phrase much before a couple of years ago. Heard it on Hannity and on DU mostly.

I do know the origin - James Jones/Guyana, right?
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 04:53 PM
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1. People said it a lot after the Jim Jones thing
And then it made a comeback.

There was of course, that other cult in San Diego, who ATE THE PUDDING.

It just doesn't have the same ring, I guess . . .



http://www.wgoeshome.com
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taxidriver Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 04:54 PM
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2. its an attempt by both sides to infer extremism on their adversaries.
for better or for worse.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:09 PM
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5. I think it's more accurate to say it infers blind obedience to dogma
Which results in a complete unwillingness/inability to see obvious truths.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:49 PM
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10. Implies, not infers.
The speaker (or writer)implies, the listener (or reader) infers.

Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but that one always bugs me.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:10 PM
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11. Irregardless...
Sorry, just wanted to see if your head would explode. ;-)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:26 PM
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13. ugh
My mother an english major had spent 40 years making sure i dont say "irregardless"

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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:38 PM
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19. She must have loved the movie "Roger and me"
nt
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 03:26 PM
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16. Owie!
Susan, that was mean. I'm going to go pout now.

;-)
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:05 PM
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3. Yep,Jonestown!!!!!
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:12 PM
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6. Why don'r we call it georgetown?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:07 PM
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4. Despite Jimmie Walker who coined the term in 1974...
It was the Jim Jones phenomenon that caused it in 1978.

Jim Jones, like Sun Myong Moon, was a cult leader.

Unfortunately, unlike Moon, Jones had enough sense to knock himself off.

Unfortunately, Jones told his followers to do the same. Those who didn't comply were shot or forced to drink it...
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:20 PM
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7. I knew the meaning - but appreciate the input
but I'm wondering more WHY it's gotten used so frequently recently? The very polarized Left vs. Right since election fiasco 2000?
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:26 PM
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8. Journalists started using it about each other
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 05:47 PM by Susang
Remember that documentary Alexandra Pelosi did about the 2000 election? Many of the journalists used that term to refer to their colleagues who they felt were not being critical enough of Bush (as well as other politicians).

http://www.journeyswithgeorge.com/

edited for poor spelling
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 05:43 PM
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9. That's a good question ...
I've been hearing it a lot lately – but I hadn't heard it much in the intervening 20-plus years. Just on anecdotal evidence, that phrase seems to have made in comeback in the last one or two years.

Maybe it's being picked up by the younger generation who wasn't alive during Jonestown?
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:20 PM
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12. well, the bush/jim jones connection doesn't exactly
seem that outlandish at this juncture in history... a picture says a thousand words



the kool-aid is being served at the side of the stage

(I wonder if the guys on the balcony forgot their hoods)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:57 PM
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14. Pigboy said it in 92.
He said that all of the Democrats at their convention would be drinking Koolaid and commiting suicide if they nominated Clinton because of his alleged baggage, and that Bush I would win in a landslide.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 06:57 PM
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15. It was the Jonestown mass suicide that started it...
...when the hundreds of Guyanese believers in the proto-Koresh Jim Jones drank the cyanide-laced grape Kool-Aid that was prepared in vats all around the compound. They allegedly soooo believed in his twisted religion that they willingly drank this poison in an ultimate attempt to cover stories of what was going on there.

Funny part is that almost no one remembers the events that led up to them "drinking the Kool-Aid"---namely the assassination of Congressman Leo Ryan who went there on a fact finding mission after hearing about the crazy sh*t that was going down. Video captures him being shot down on the tarmac along with others. as the U.S. mobilized to do something about this, that's when Jones took his own life and urged his lemming-like followers to do the same to escape the evil clutches of their oppressors.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 03:31 PM
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17. It wasn't actually kool aid
It was Flavor-Aid.

eom
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:15 PM
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18. After "The Kool-Aid Acid Test"
by Tom Wolfe(?)
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