Ok....I have a subject that I wonder about.... (it's homosexual, so bound

[Khephra]

to be banned)

Why is violence such a big part of gay porn?

I'm really curious for the answers.

[trumad]

1. Sorry... I'm not an expert on this subject....

:shrug:

[Khephra]

3. Neither am I

But, because I have friends in the scene, I see all sorts of porno.

I'm Bi so it's not offensive to me, except for the violence.

[bigwillq]

2. You mean like bondage and whips and chains and all that

shit?

Because for a certain group of people, that type of shit sells.
Many people are really interested in that type of behavior and as long as there is a market for it, it's going to keep being made.

There is a lot of "straight" porn that also contains that type of behavior but you hear more about it being in the gay porn community b/c certain people are looking to condemn gays as violent, sex crazed individuals.

[Khephra]

7. Nah, not B&D

Like I said, I'm bi, so I'm not attacking.

I've just been seeing the idea of male rape growing as being attractive and that bothers the hell out of me.

[bigwillq]

9. Are there any specific titles that can justify your claims?

I'm just asking b/c I have a pretty healthy gay porn collection and none of this stuff I think you're talking about is on the films I own.

Yes, it's out there but I think it's also out there in straight porn.

[Khephra]

19. I couldn't tell you the names of any hetero films let alone gay

Titles aren't usually what I look for when picking out movies.

[bigwillq]

21. Yeah, I hear you on that one

I know sometimes "rape" and violence is part of a films "storyline" if you want to call it that.

There are some gay porn that is set at a detention center or something like that and I guess that is all just part of the story.

[m-jean03]

4. What gay porn are you looking at?

It's not all S&M. And you can find plenty of hetero porn that has that too.

What's your motivation for asking, anyway? :shrug:

[Khephra]

20. My motivation?

I love people who find love. And I haven't a word to say about anything anyone does in their bedroom.

I am, however, offended by films that show rape as being a good thing.

Like I say later in this thread, I guess the person in charge of tapes at the store I go to has some problems.

[m-jean03]

22. Sorry for bein' at all suspicious

My apologies. :)

I know you are well known here on the boards, but it's the first time I've talked to you.

I don't like gratuitous or sexual violence, either.

[Khephra]

23. To me, sex is all about love

(and the occasional release ;-) )

But rape....if anyone thinks that's a good thing....

Nice "talking" with you! :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

30. If sex is all about love, why are you renting porn?

Do you actually believe that anyone is portraying anyone in love? Maybe I've missed something, but I've never seen a porn film about love (that's in the slightest bit convincing)... or, for that matter, a porn film that depicts a rape. WHERE the hell are you renting these from?

[Khephra]

34. You've never seen a porno film with "love"?

Maybe I should be asking you what films you've watched.

[Misunderestimator]

35. Um... no... usually porn actors aren't talented enough to convince

me that they are in "LOVE."

[mitchtv]

47. you know I love gay male porn

and I don't have any like that. but times have changed much since the last time I was near anything new. One of my favorites, a Cadinot film does thake place in a reformatory tho.

[Misunderestimator]

25. You are looking at porn to find love?

[Khephra]

28. Not love

But rape isn't a turn on either.

[Misunderestimator]

29. So don't rent those films... it isn't a gay thing, and I resent you

labeling it as such. It's something in and of itself. As for the love, you said "I love people who find love" and I didn't understand what context you meant that, I guess.

[Nikia]

33. You don't always know that it will be violent

For example, I know what he's talking about and it's not S&M. It is in straight porn too. For example, we watched a movie about a woman who was a medium that a couple had hired because their house was haunted. Alright maybe we should have known that hauntings are rumored to happen more often when there was violent death or something unsettled so maybe we shouldn't have been suprised by the violence. Then there was another movie whose blurb sounded like a runaway is seduced by a handsome doctor. In watching the movie, we find out that he kidnaps her while she is unconscious from a suicide attempt or drug overdose and then makes her his sex slave against her will. This stuff isn't labled as violent. It's in with the stuff that the sex is consenual and positive to all parties.

[Misunderestimator]

36. Ok, I can get that... but I take exception to the word "homosexual"

in the title of this thread as if that is the only genre of porn film that this occurs.

[Padraig18]

5. Ummm..

I have lots of gay porn, and there's very little violence in it. What have you been looking at?

[ronnykmarshall]

18. Same here

I've watched me many a gay porn video and don't recall any violent themes.

Now maybe some hot spanking and some hot sweaty leather men ........ oppps ...... need to re-adjust.

[Terran]

6. As a long-time consumer of both gay and straight porn

I really don't think violence is any more prevalent in gay porn than it is in straight porn. What are you referring to...can you be more specific?

Gay men are into most of the same things straight men are into, just with other men.

[Tosca]

11. Same violence, different orientation...now that's comforting...

/Gay men are into most of the same things straight men are into,
/just with other men.

[Terran]

17. Obviously, that is not what I meant.

In fact, re: violence, I think that Gay men are a lot less likely to be sexually violent toward other men then straight men are toward women. It's one of the many things that makes homosexuality such a good thing.

[Droopy]

8. I didn't know that was the case

But I've only seen one little clip of gay porn, so I'm definitely not an expert on the matter.

[Khephra]

10. I guess I'm just getting bad porn

:shrug:

It used to be that you could pick out a video and be safe, but the last few that I've seen have all been rape videos.

I guess it's time to find a new video store.

[TrogL]

12. I've never seen violent gay porn

other than that stupid slapping the butt thing, which just looks ridiculous, not violent.

[Khephra]

13. I guess it's just my video store

That's possible.

[Nikia]

14. There's straight porn that disturbs me

With its violenc and domination. We have rented movies where at least one person killed someone after having sex with them. We have seen movies with rape too. These movies are with the normal porn moives. I don't know what is up with the violence in these movies. For me, violence ruins it.

[Khephra]

15. Yeah, that's it

I've seen the same change in normal porn too. There's things on tape now that I'd never expect to see. Most of it being "rape" shows.

[Khephra]

16. Yeah, that's it

I've seen the same change in normal porn too. There's things on tape now that I'd never expect to see. Most of it being "rape" shows.

[Misunderestimator]

24. WTF? Why do you think gay porn is diff from straight porn? If anything..

Straight porn has much more of a selection of S&M type films than gay. Where are you coming from? :wtf:

[Tosca]

26. In that case...

Gay porn has a lot of catching up to do! You know, you can't BORE your audience! Got to be on the cutting edge! Got to wow 'em.

It's only a matter of time.

[Khephra]

27. Ummm...because I was trying to figure out if there's been a change

in porn. It's happened before (the 70's ), so I'm just asking.

I only know what I've seen. I guess getting 4 rape films in a row made me interested in the topic.

[Misunderestimator]

31. Why gay porn then? Why intentionally make this flamebait?

[Terran]

43. Calm yourself

Keph is the last person who would make a flamebait post. You're the only one here who's getting all excited, notice?

[Misunderestimator]

45. Excuse me? Are you trying to peeve me?

Cause why else would you say "calm yourself"... that's a tactic for people who have no argument. I am offended that this thread seems to be insinuating that GAY porn is tending toward depicting rape, and not porn in general.

[Terran]

46. No, not at all.

But you are over-reacting. Kephera did not intend any such meaning, I can assure you. You're getting all pissy over a completely imaginary slight.

[Tosca]

32. Haven't seen that new snuff blockbuster yet.

Looking forward to it tho.

"The Passion of Chris" I think it's called.

[Misunderestimator]

37. LMAO

[Tosca]

38. Oh yeah?!?

Get out the whips, baby. ooooh, yaaah!

[mongo]

40. Do you know titles/companies?

It would really help me out. Actually, I don't watch all that much porn, and I don't watch gay porn.

I think this is just a trend in porn in general. On the straight side, if you are not into rape scenes, avoid max hardcore and extreme associates.

[TeeYiYi]

39. Khephra . . .

. . . I can honestly say that I've never seen gay porn with violence in it. And I've seen my share (it's been a few years) . . . both men and women. So that makes me wonder about your friends. It must be something about THEIR choice and not a trend in general.

TYY

[Dr Fate]

41. Domination is fine, so long as there is an understanding...

...but I understand that Hetro & gay porn is going in a violent direction-

Role playing & consensual domination is erotic- but actual harm & vilolence- I dont get it either.

[Forkboy]

42. All I know about gay porn is

that gay men are getting ripped off.Most places charge way more for gay porn than hetero porn because they know they can.

Gay men unite and demand equally priced porn!!!

Ironically enough,midget porn is higher priced too :shrug:

[Heddi]

48. I found the same situation with midget porn...

really! Hubby and I saw one accidentally a few years ago---Now, it's the same 2 chicks (one with glasses, one with red hair) and the same 2 guys---BO-RING! Surley there's more than 4 midgets in the world who are willing to do the deed in front of the camera for captive audiences like Me & Mr. Heddi!

We saw a porn once called "Freak Show"---very. disturbing.

[Dr Fate]

49. Wait a minute- you "accidentally" rented a Midget porn tape...

...and then went back for more, only to discover the same actors..?

Your story is fishy- sounds like you follow this stuff! :)

Oh well, at least the little fellas are not beating the crap out of each other like in these other movies mentioned!!!...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

44. The only gay porn

I ever saw just had five oiled up naked men in a hottub at a ski resort. And they were very nice to each other, so I can't address this.

There's quite a bit of the old S&M that heteros enjoy, too, though. So I'm not sure it's just a gay thing.

Question: is there any lesbian S&M porn out there? Real lesbian stuff, not just hetero women hopped up on drugs doing it for the camera only?