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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:15 PM
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Veterinarian Guilty Of Bludgeoning Neighbor's Dachshund
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FORT WORTH - A veterinarian was convicted Tuesday of felony animal cruelty for bludgeoning a neighbor's miniature dachshund to death last year with a log-splitting maul after the dog got into his back yard in Colleyville.

Mircea Volosen, 45, contends that he was only protecting the laying hens in his yard when he killed Ginger.

Visiting state District Judge C.C. "Kit" Cooke delayed sentencing Volosen for about 30 days while authorities conduct a pre-sentencing investigation. Probation officials will conduct a criminal, background and employment investigation to help the judge decide on a sentence.

Volosen faces a maximum of two years in jail and a $10,000 fine.

Volosen seemed unaffected by the verdict Tuesday morning in a Fort Worth courtroom. He was taken into custody, but posted $5,000 bail several hours later and was released from the Tarrant County Jail.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/9150462.htm?1c
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:18 PM
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1. I read this last night.. disgusting
Where is the death penalty for this creep?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:19 PM
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2. Good lord a log-splitting maul?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:20 PM
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3. Helluv A Lot Better Than The TabbyTote!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:27 PM
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43. Love that cat hater torture device...
the perfect gift for the sadistic asshole in your household.

ALL CAT HATERS MUST DIE!!!!!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:30 PM
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4. The man couldn't have caught the miniature weiner dog ...
and taken him home, asking the neighbor to keep the dog out of his yard? What a fuckhead. He should lose his license. Don't Vets take a hypocratic oath?
Duckie
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:56 PM
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24. Not exactly. Here's the vet's oath
http://www.vet.com/vet_oath.html

Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine, I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health, the relief of animal suffering, the conservation of livestock resources, the promotion of public health and the advancement of medical knowledge.

I will practice my profession conscientiously, with dignity and in keeping with the principles of veterinary medical ethics.

I accept as a lifelong obligation the continual improvement of my professional knowledge and competence.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:31 PM
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5. Damn! I have Doxies
Probably the most lovable doggies in the world. What a *(&%#!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:36 PM
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6. Ive got mini doxies too
Max sentence for the monster. And take his vet license.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:43 PM
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7. Dear inconsiderate dog owners
Please keep your dirty, noisy animals off other people's property.

Contrary to your assumptions, your neighbors probably aren't okay with little fido coming over to take a shit on the front lawn.
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PDX Bara Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:14 PM
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9. Inconsiderate Dog Owners
Contrary to their probable belief, dogs are not considered gods by all people. Unfortunately, it is often the dog that suffers the wrath of those violated by a dog for just being a dog. A friend who had a corner lot that was often the toilet for a neighbor's dog that was allowed to do its business on her lawn every morning finally cured the problem by scooping up the "contribution," putting it in a plastic baggie and presenting it to the owner with a smile and "You forgot something." Her lawn was never again used in that manner but undoubtedly someone else's was.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:20 PM
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10. which justifies bludgeoning him to death with a maul?
All that man ever had to do was to round up the dog and take him back to his home.

I hope this asshole does serious time. I also hope that prison teaches him a few things about what it's like to be at the mercy of someone who's stronger and more vicious than he is.



Mary
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:26 PM
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11. Why does he have to round up his dickhead neighbor's dog?
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 01:32 PM by Sandpiper
It's his dickhead neighbor's responsibility to make sure HIS pooch isn't disturbing anyone.

This guy was probably the typical, presumptuous dog owner, who thinks that no one minded when his little ankle biter dug up flower beds, soiled lawns, and barked at the moon at 3:00 am.


On Edit: Bludgeoning it to death was wrong, but I doubt this was the first time that little Dachsie made an unwanted visit.
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TreeHuggingLiberal Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:36 PM
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13. So...does multiple visits make it alright to bludgeon it to death?
Just wondering...
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:41 PM
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14. I think I already answered that
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 01:42 PM by Sandpiper
What I was saying was that I doubt this guy's reaction was due to seeing his neighbor's dog in his yard one time.

But let's not forget the other principal party here. The inconsiderate dog owner who refused to control his pet.

I'm not a dog worshiper either, so I'm having a hard time getting outraged over this.
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TreeHuggingLiberal Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:47 PM
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15. Yeah, you don't have to be a dog worshipper to have a little compassion
towards all of the creatures of the Earth. The article stated that the dog had gotten out of its pen and into Volsen's yard three times. I understand that you might get annoyed that a neighbor's dog gets in your yard or relieves itself in your yard, but you have to admit "dog worshiper" or not this is monstrous behavior especially for a Veterinarian. I have had neighbor's dogs wander into my yard when my family had chickens, and I was very effective at chasing them away and notifying the neighbors. There is no reason for such barbaric behavior over a dog getting loose.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:18 PM
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19. You feel no outrage over the bludgeoning death of a defenseless
animal? Regardless of whether you like dogs or not, I am very sorry for you. One need not be a "dog worshiper" to have compassion for life.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:33 PM
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38. I.m not a "dog worshipper" either
but nothing justifies what this man did. Nothing. He should have taken it up with the owner, not the dog. The dog was innocent.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:16 PM
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18. He could have picked up the phone and called animal control....
He could have gone to talk with the owner and if no satisfaction, could have indicated his intent to enlist other neighbors (or neighborhood association if present) to help arbitrate a solution. He could have indicated (if no response) his intent to: 1. call animal control; 2. file a civil suit for damages and/or to recoup the cost of fencing his property if all else failed;

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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:41 PM
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20. It's also not the first time this vet had killed an animal
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 04:16 PM by Skinner
And the AVA will not even discipline him, the place where he works supports him, etc. He needs to stop raising animals in "coops" in his yard.


And you'd have to be sick to equate a dog pooping in a yard to being beaten to death. Or should we all start beating the numerous squirrels, birds, rabbits, possums, raccoons and other animals that poop in our yards every day? Not in my civilization.


Colleyville veterinarian indicted in dog's death

Attorney says man was saving livestock from miniature dachshund

08:44 PM CDT on Thursday, September 4, 2003

By BRANDON FORMBY / The Dallas Morning News


A Colleyville veterinarian accused of killing his neighbor's dog with a log-splitting tool was indicted on one count of cruelty to an animal Thursday by a Tarrant County grand jury.

Dr. Mircea Volosen could face up to two years in prison and a $10,000 fine if convicted of killing neighbor Kevin Ball's miniature dachshund after the dog entered a chicken coop on Dr. Volosen's property July 4.

William Cox III, Dr. Volosen's attorney, said his client was surprised and disappointed at the indictment. Mr. Cox said the dog was eating chickens and rabbits that Dr. Volosen kept in a coop in his yard at the time of the incident.

"We believe he was lawfully protecting his flock and being a good shepherd," said Mr. Cox. "This is the second time the dog was back there, and I guess the owner didn't care. I think clearly under the law, you're allowed to protect your livestock."

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:13 PM
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50. Or maybe
He needs to stop raising animals in "coops" in his yard.

His inconsiderate dog owning neighbors need to confine their dogs to their own property, like the local law says they're supposed to.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:01 PM
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16. So, if the dirty, noisy, neighbor kids run across the property....
turning over the trashcans, knocking over the mailboxes, or spraypainting graffiti on the garage door, then, we likewise can feel justified in knocking the shit out of them? (Because contrary to your assumptions, your neighbors probably aren't okay with little Johhny coming over to take a metaphorical shit on the property)

Jesus..... Glad there is so much tolerance in this world and rational approach to solving problems...
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:45 PM
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22. I just knew it was a matter of time
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:45 PM by Sandpiper
Before someone made the dog/children anology.

*YAWN*

I know dog worshippers love their pooches, but considering that the law does not, never has, and never will accord dogs the same status as human beings, your analogy is...well...bogus.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:57 PM
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25. Compassion for life is not a legal issue, it is a moral issue
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:58 PM by hlthe2b
If animals must first be accorded the same legal status as human beings in order for you to feel it important to preserve their lives and reduce their suffering, then again, I feel very very sorry for you.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:00 PM
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27. And the equally predictable condescending "philosophical response"
After having the legs kicked out from under your argument.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:59 PM
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35. not at all...
Intolerance for one aspect of life quite often transfers to other areas.

I just hope you will be forthcoming with your neighbors and let them know how you feel towards their pets (and that those who feel as you never move to my neighborhood).
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:26 PM
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37. Trust me, I would have no problem letting my neighbors know
If their pets were being a nuisance.

Inconsiderate dog owners are bad neighbors.

And like you say, inconsideration in one aspect of life quite often transfers to other areas.

And I would hope that people who feel like its okay for their pet to intrude onto my property and befoul it, never move to my neighborhood.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #7
32. .
most people on this board follow the Judeo-Christian ethic of "Do Not Kill." That applies to animals too.

Remind me never to piss you off.

What the hell are you doing on this board? Wouldn't you find more satisfaction elsewhere? The NRA board? Hunters Anonymous?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:00 PM
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36. um, the judeo-christian ethic most certainly does NOT apply to animals
it may in your case, but it doesn't in the cases of the 90+% of Americans who eat meat. I eat cow, I eat pig, I eat goat, I eat Fish, but I do not eat human. funny. it's like there's a difference there.

let me think about it for a bit and I'll get back to you. In the meantime, please don't apply your interpretation of Judeo-Christian ethics (after all, Jesus' first miracle involved the killing of Fish, which are, last time I checked, animals.) to others without permission.

one more thing, have you ever had any success with asking someone if they belong here? I mean has anyone ever said "why, no, I guess I am a freeper, thanks for pointing that out" until you own this board I gently suggest you stop challenging the rights of others to be here.

ps: I know, FSC has me on ignore from the last time I called him on this crap, but it's fun none the less.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. I suggest you read the following thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x1400991

Pay close attention to this line:

"We try to give our members a fair amount of leeway, but there is a limit. It is not okay to post anything if your intention is to bait or agitate a certain group of people, disrupt the message board, or thumb your nose at the moderators. Last night two people did exactly that, and they were both sporting shiny new tombstones this morning. I don't care if you are actually a Democrat; if you are disrupting the message board, then you are a disruptor."

It's one thing to kill animals for food. It's quite another to murder a neighbor's pet in cold blood. I was responding to that. A friend alerted me to your post.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 08:34 AM
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59. hey, I can selectively quote from barely relevant documents as well!
Many members have argued, quite persuasively, that DU should have a "zero tolerance" policy toward anything that could be construed as bigoted. It would be nice if such a policy were feasible.

I consider someone twisting a religion to tell that I don't belong here or anywhere to be bigoted and offensive. In fact, let's put our lives up against each other, and see who lives a more 'liberal', earth and animal friendly existence. After you lose that, you may leave. Keep talking, because I guarantee you that you will lose that contest.

It's one thing to kill animals for food. It's quite another to murder a neighbor's pet in cold blood. I was responding to that.

and I was responding to the reality that your only arguement seems to be "well, if you don't like my way, maybe you belong somewhere else" which is bigoted and offensive. and I will continue to call anyone I see who ever suggests that someone doesn't belong here, as I have done for over three years. If you, or anyone else, continues to attempt to enforce your own views on other people by playing the 'you don't belong here' card, then I will be there calling you on it. nothing personal, I just can't stand hypocrisy or the use of religion or 'ethics' as a cheap bludgeon by tin pot demagogues.

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. That's interesting
that Skinner's post was barely relevant to you, as he's the one who makes the rules around here. I'll keep that in mind in the future.

I'm putting you back on ignore where I should have kept you. Anyone who would brutally murder a dog but call me the offensive one really doesn't see the humor in his own posts.

By the way asswipe. Anyone around here who knows me knows I'm a woman.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #32
52. ?
And maybe you belong on another board, like PETA or ELF.

And if you don't care for what I have to say, my response is, tough shit. I'm not seeking your approval and don't much care if I've ruffled your feathers.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:39 PM
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56. Yes
and the next time some inconsiderate asshole cuts me off in traffic, I'm going to blow their head off with a shot gun. The next person that has more than 10 items in their cart in the quick check isle gets a pic ax in the back of the head from me! We'll have a lot less inconsiderate people in the world if we overreact in a bloody and violent way. It's not the sociopath's fault if people are inconsiderate. They had it coming! It was the dog owners fault. :silly:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. I can make ridiculous knee-jerk comparisons too
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 12:07 PM by Sandpiper
I think dogs should be able to run free into other people's yards and maul their children too, not just their livestock.

Because dogs are special.

Since people shouldn't have the right to protect their property from a neighbor's marauding dog, they shouldn't have the right to protect their children either. Especially not if it's a cute dog like a Dachsund.


How was that?

Any other over the top responses?
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:24 PM
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61. No one is saying he shouldn't have the right to protect his livestock,
but don't you think it's a tad bit of an overreaction to pummel a 10-pound critter - of ANY species - to death when you could just as easily give it a boot in the butt, or turn the hose on it? If you're going to kill an animal molesting your livestock or threatening you, you do it with a bullet, not a sledgehammer. It's the degree of violence required to beat something to death that bothers me, not the relative species involved.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Yes
I think the reaction was out of proportion to the offense that was taking place.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:48 PM
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8. The vet lives in Colleyville? That's kind of funny.
.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:31 PM
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12. WHAT?
Article states...

"On Tuesday, the courtroom, packed mostly with Volosen supporters, remained quiet after the verdict. One supporter walked outside the courtroom and wept."

A coutroom filled with supporters of the man who beat the dog to death? WFT! How about weeping for the innocent dog savagely killed instead of a heartless monster who has a reputation for killing dogs.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:09 PM
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17. I only hope most people realize that his being a veterinarian is
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 02:11 PM by hlthe2b
a total anomaly and lacking in any broader relevence at all, in my very strong opinion. This guy is a gutless sadist, but I would dearly hate for anyone to start wondering about the compassion of their own veterinarian.

I'm reminded of a charge made by PETA years ago after a study was published in a veterinary medical journal summarizing high rise falls in NYC cats and the correlates for severe injury and survival (as well as prevention). PETA accused the veterinarians involved in the study of actually throwing the cats out the window for study (!) rather than the true fact that this was a retrospective study of cats presented for veterinary care after having fallen from NYC highrise apartments. Amazingly, there were several heated articles and even editorials in newspapers after this, especially when the media blindly picked up the charges without investigation.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. of course not...
But the AVA as an organization supports a wide variety of animal abuse, including when they recently approved killing thousands of chickens by throwing them into a wood chipper.

Individual vets are a totally different matter.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Actually it is the AVMA and like the AMA is a political organization...
that does not always serve its membership, nor the profession well. Many veterinarians (like many physicians with respect to AMA) refuse to join for that reason.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:57 PM
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26. oops, thanks for the correction (nt)
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:14 PM
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30. It wasn't the AVMA
It was, IIRC, the state veterinarian in (California?) where the wood chipper incident took place. That official took it upon himself to OK that method of killing them. The AVMA has actually condemned that action. While I have no great love for the AVMA as an organization (too many good-old-boys who are lacking in true compassion), the powers that be occasionally do get up off their collective butt to make a statement or two. Just like any other bureaucracy, change is slow. The AVMA has recently opposed cosmetic surgery such as ear cropping and tail docking (about time!), even though they have no real enforcement authority.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:52 PM
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33. Good to know... I was only correcting the acronym and not the incident
as I have no knowledge whatsoever of the chipper incident. And I agree that the "good old boy attitude" is prevalent and detrimental in these professional "advocacy" organizations, including AVMA, AMA,ADA and many others. Nonetheless they serve a purpose, and can be a positive force on occasion.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
31. Disagree. It does have some relevance. Like a whore teaching abstinence.
It doesn't make it any better, but it is much more outrageous.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. I only meant that it has no broad relevence in that one should not
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 04:02 PM by hlthe2b
assume that this is at all a statement on the profession or suggestive of "problems" with those entering the profession. On the individual level, I agree, the fact that he was a veterinarian makes the act all the more outrageous.

I also agree that the state licensing board should at least investigate the incident as an ethics complaint, even if it is true (as they maintain) that they have no legal authority to affect his licensure status-- given that it did not happen in the clinic setting.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:42 PM
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57. I think the state board might have some authority
In some cases anyway. They might, for example, require him to have an observer present at his clinic for a period of time (I have heard of this happening in cases that didn't warrant specific action by the board), or perhaps have him take anger management courses or some such thing.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:45 PM
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39. I absolutely agree
if it was my vet I would sh** bricks.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:10 PM
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28. He needs a better fence and/or a chicken coop.
What happens if a real predator gets into the yard?

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:12 PM
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29. This is someone who should not practice any longer.
Anyone who could do something like this obviously needs to rethink his chosen profession.
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 04:53 PM
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40. Disgusting.
I'm glad this guy isn't my neighbor ... or my vet. I can't think of any situation where death is the best remedy when dealing with a mini dauschand. Boggles the mind.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. it doesn't require beinga 'dog lover' to comdemn this shit. That man is
a psycho son of a bitch. I have five miniature dachshunds and that man would be DEAD if he had done that to my dog. Twice in his yard. Why didn't he talk to his neighbor? To take a mallet and hammer an
animal to death tells me VOLUMES about the character and simmering
psychosis of this man. I would SUE HIM until he WAS NAKED!

Today a dog. Tomorrow, the paper boy. The next day, a guy who cut him off in traffic. I hope he never works again. I can imagine no one will EVER come near him with an animal again. The bastard.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 06:40 PM
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44. Yeah, Imagine the nerve of the guy
Who killed the dog that was molesting his livestock.

If he'd killed a raccoon or a fox for doing the same thing, nobody would have given two shits.

The dickhead owner on the other hand had this to say:

The dog's owner, Kevin Ball, testified Monday that Ginger had escaped from his back yard at least four to six times in the few months before she was killed, three times ending up in Volosen's back yard.

Hmmm, inconsiderate dog owner can't control his own pet, or more likely chooses not to. If it got out four to six times, it obviously wasn't very important to him. But anyway, dickhead owner's dog goes onto neighbor's property and starts molesting neighbors hen's for the third time, neighbor kills the dog.

And because he was protecting his own property, he's a psycho who should never work again?

Not only that, but this wasn't the first time this guy had his livestock killed by some inconsiderate dickhead's dog.

In September 2002, he killed a black Labrador retriever, Coty, with a blunt object after the dog killed several rabbits and chickens, according to a police report filed by Volosen.

He had also called the police about these dogs, but the police never issued citations to the owners for letting them run free.

Control your damn dogs, dog owners.

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:10 PM
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49. Sue him until he was naked?
For what?

The loss of the society of your dog?

Yeah, I'm sure you'd get a big award for that.

I'm not sure if you've heard or not, but wrongful death suits don't apply to dogs.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 05:18 PM
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42. Most places still allow you to shoot an animal that's molesting livestock,
however, we're talking a miniature Dachshund, not a ravening monster here. There's better ways of stopping a small dog from getting at your livestock than frigging bludgeoning it to death. Ever bludgeoned anything to death? It isn't that easy to do, and it makes a mess. You have to be SERIOUSLY pissed off to do that.

What I want to know is why the guy didn't just pick the dog up and wing it back into its own yard, or call Animal Control? If he felt he had no option but to kill it (not knowing all the facts of the case, maybe there's something I'm not seeing here), there are much more humane ways of doing so.

There's a reason for the expression "Good fences make good neighbors."

The guy clearly has anger control and/or self-control issues. Clearly he was pissed blue about the dog attacking his poultry - but why didn't he just march out in the yard with a hose and hose the little fucker down? Why did he feel the need to bloodily beat it to death? Weird person. I'd be damned uncomfortable taking my pets to that vet, I can tell you that.

That being said, every pet owner has a responsibility to ensure their pets are not creating a nuisance to others. The OWNER is liable, not the pet. But uncontrolled pets sometimes get harmed or killed because their owners are dipshits, and sometimes simply because fences need better repair. It shouldn't be a death penalty offense to dig under a fence and chase a chicken. However, I remember the time my dad's entire small flock of sheep and newborn lambs was bloodily slaughtered by local semi-feral dogs - you can bet your bottom dollar my dad would have shot those dogs had he been able to catch them. And most communities' laws would agree that the livestock owner has the right to shoot a predatory animal - but not bludgeon it to death.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 06:46 PM
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45. He contacted the police
Who chose not to do anything about it.

If your neighbors refuse to keep their pets confined to their own property, local law enforcement refuses to do anything about it, and your neighbor's animals are disturbing your property and molesting your livestock, what option do you have left?

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 06:55 PM
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46. I suppose we can assume this dog was molesting his livestock.
After all, a man who is a veterinarian who would beat a little dog to death with a hammer is obviously someone whose words you can take to the bank. I feel sorry for any bird that lands on his yard.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:04 PM
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47. Yes, and the fact that you own 5 minature Dachsunds
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 07:08 PM by Sandpiper
Doesn't make you the least bit biased, now does it?

Why do you dog worshippers think that your animals have some god-given right to bother other people?

As I said before, if this guy would have done the same thing to a fox or raccoon, nobody would have batted an eyelash over it.

But because it happened to somebodies cute little pain in the ass poochie, it's front page news.

And I can tell you that if any of your 5 little dachsies came over to do their business or bother something in my yard, they'd be getting air mailed back over to yours.
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:17 PM
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51. Excuse me?
What the hell is the jerk doing working as a Vet in the first place.

If he killed a raccoon or fox I would want to see his ass put in jail as well.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:22 PM
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53. Let me spell it out for you
The law allows the owner of livestock to protect it from wild animals.

Maybe you should actually read the article first.

Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth.
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VoteDemocratic2004 Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:25 PM
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54. My Question is "What the hell is he doing working as a vet"
He would be more of a laboratory worker that experiments on animals I would think.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 07:26 PM
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55. With a 10-pound dog?
Turn the hose on the damn thing, or boot it over the fence. Spray it with pepper spray. There's lots of non-lethal ways to deal with an annoying SMALL animal.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:13 PM
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58. utterly sickening;
many of the replies also evince another negative human trait: making excuses.
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