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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:14 PM
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For Sale By Owner, 4 Whites Only.
An official with the Arizona Attorney General’s Office said her department hadn’t encountered such a sight in 50 years.

The director of the federal Housing and Urban Development’s Phoenix field office said, “We’ve never seen anything like it. I’m amazed, just amazed.”

Both were reacting to a pair of signs placed in front of an upscale Waddell home.

The first reads: “For sale by owner.”

The second reads: “4 whites only.”

The owner of the home did not return repeated telephone calls. But his sign is getting him plenty of attention.

http://www.westvalleyview.com/WESTVALLEYVIEW/myarticles.asp?P=768316&S=365&PubID=12511
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:15 PM
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1. I could use a couple of white people around the house.
I hope he hasn't sold all four of them yet!

:eyes:

-MR
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:17 PM
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2. You should be able to get them cheap
because it sounds like the house is chock full of worthless fuckers.

Stephanie
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:18 PM
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3. LOL. n/t
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:20 PM
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4. Un-freakin'-believable
And HUD can't do anything till someone files a complaint. That's just crazy. :mad:
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:28 PM
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13. Can HUD do anything anyway? Should they?
If the house were being sold by the government, or even a licensed private realtor, then I'd say the government should step in. But don't the owners of the house have the right to exercise their own discretion in choosing a buyer? If they decide to reject offers from people with dark skin, then that's their prerogative, however backwards and disgusting it might be.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:32 PM
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16. Heck yes they should do something
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 12:33 PM by notawol
Enforce the damn law.
Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents of legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability).

http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/FHLaws/index.cfm


edit to add link.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:37 PM
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18. I guess you're right
The Fair Housing Act covers most housing. In some circumstances, the Act exempts owner-occupied buildings with no more than four units, single-family housing sold or rented without the use of a broker, and housing operated by organizations and private clubs that limit occupancy to members.

It's still wrong IMO.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:22 PM
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5. Oh?
"Where are the white women at?" :D
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:24 PM
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6. Oh, nice:
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 12:25 PM by iconoclastic cat
(snip)
“I haven’t seen the sign, but I’ve heard about it,” said Donald Miller, who lives down the street from the home. “It sounds like he might be a little prejudiced. But it doesn’t bother me.”

***

"These are people of the land, the common clay of the new west. You know ---morons."
Gene Wilder, Blazing Saddles

on edit: And no, I'm not biased against the Southwest. I just like that scene.
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:25 PM
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7. I live down the entire country from him
and it bothers the hell out of me.

God, I can't stand racists mofos.
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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:12 PM
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22. Glad to know a little prejudice doesn't bother you, Mr. Miller
Jesus.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:25 PM
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8. Hey, They'll sell it and make a mint. There are more racist out there
than you can ever imagine.

Personally I respect the racist who is up front about it. The racist that hides behind a smile is WAY more dangerous.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:27 PM
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12. Especially dangerous in the WH
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:26 PM
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9. Sad to say, the notoriety will probably get his house sold
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:27 PM
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10. So, do you think he'd have a problem with Jews buying the house?
I mean, the vast majority of us are white, so that should be OK, right?

-MR
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:27 PM
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11. leave it to a lazy-ass p.o.s. bigot to be too lazy to spell out "for"
Christ. This loser is too stupid to waste my anger on him.

However, I'll spend a little anger on the idiot who said, "This is 2004, not the 1960s." Like this was okay in the 60s? "But it’s his house. We can’t tell him not to." Why the hell not? He may not listen, but you damn sure can speak up! Weiner!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:31 PM
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15. maybe they were looking for 4 white people
to buy the house

:crazy:

I still can't believe people pull this kinda crap in this world
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:33 PM
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17. That quote is very telling:
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 12:34 PM by iconoclastic cat
"We can't tell him not to."

Not, "We won't..." or, "We're afraid to..."

The "we can't" says to me that this person is accidentally admitting that the social code of this neighborhood enforces the norm--in this case, that norm is virulent bigotry.

This reminds me of the person who says, "I feel badly about ____." Notice the grammar: not, "I feel bad," as in, "I have an emotion that is unpleasant." This statement actually translates to, "I do not have the capacity to experience an emotional reaction to _____."

Interesting.
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mrboba1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:31 PM
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14. It only costs 4 whites to buy the house?
Hmm, who can I round up???
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:34 PM
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24. I bid a Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, and Wolfowitz.
And I'll raise you a Rumsfeld. Who'll beat that?
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jdonaldball Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:40 PM
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19. No, he had only four whites to sell into slavery
Seems like a drastic way to get rid of the wife and children.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 12:56 PM
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20. Where is the #&*$(!@@ peer pressure?
Why aren't the neigbors banding together, and going to that vermin and tell him: We don't accept this intolerance and racist attitude in our neigborhood. Take that #&*$(!@@ "4 whites only" sign down!

So if the man's neighbors have done nothing, then I guess they accept the inolerance too. I hope I am wrong.

OTOH, suppose someone like ______________ (fill in the blank of some non-white superstar )flashed him some top dollar big bucks...would he change his tune?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:09 PM
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21. Maybe the neighbors secretly agree with him, and just won't admit it.
When I was a kid, about 10 or 12, I overheard one of the neighborhood men talking to my dad about another neighbor's plan to sell his house. The guy said to dad, "I sure hope he doesn't sell it to any of them black people." I honestly do not recall what my dad's response was.

The funny thing was, we lived in such a lily-white area that the chances of a black family buying that home were beyond infinitesimal! It was never gonna happen anyway, but the guy had to worry about it nonetheless.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 02:22 AM
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25. That is probably true.
Although some white Murkans want to say they think blacks are sooooooooo wonderful ("some of them are my best friends")...but not as a next door neighbor. it's that two faced rhetoric that prevents us from living together as a nation.


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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 01:15 PM
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23. I have a buyer for him
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 03:04 AM
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26. Rehnquist oughtta be needing a place pretty soon
You might remember the restrictive covenant on his home in Arizona preventing it being sold to blacks; a Google search indicated he also has/had a vacation home in Vermont that couldn't be sold to Jews. Quite a guy, ol' Bill.:mad:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 07:06 AM
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27. It's telling that these racists hid under a rock
until GW had been in power for a few years.

The worst part about the Bush administration is how the worst elements of our society have been emboldened.
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