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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:16 PM
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Poll question: When a NASCAR driver dies...
in a race... how do you feel?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:19 PM
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1. what brought this one on?
did someone die today that I haven't heard about?

Anyone dying is an awful thing, even someone in a dangerous sport, shame on the people who think otherwise.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:20 PM
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3. NASCAR threads in the lounge.
Edited on Sun Jul-18-04 04:21 PM by Endangered Specie
edit: Since when does a Lounge Thread need a reason for being "brought on" ;)
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:36 PM
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5. Dale Earnhardt Jr. was burned in a crash but should be okay.
Don't know about anyone dying though. Hope not.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:36 PM
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6. ITA ...
To those who said 'poor bastard' or 'evolution in action' ... how tacky!

I hope when someone close to you dies in an accident, someone responds to you in the exact same manner, so you find out
first hand how callous that sentiment truly is.




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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:38 PM
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8. But the folks I know don't go spinning in circles at 200mph
:shrug:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:44 PM
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14. not to mention tailgate each other by inches.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:18 PM
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23. It's called "drafting"
I used to do it with semis when I was riding my motorcycle. Not only does it cut down on the wind on cold days, but the engine runs cooler and uses less fuel!

Of course you have to be about six feet off his tail, and if another trucker tells him you're there you may have to hit the brakes REAL FAST... :evilgrin:
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traco Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 06:18 PM
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19. How do you know they don't
My ex husband use to spin donuts in the middle of the highway after a rain or snow storm. How do you know you dont have any relatives or friends that do that?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:40 PM
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9. Agreed
and I don't particularly like NASCAR. Those remarks were not neccessary. And the cheap shot of "only men" wasn't real funny either. Maybe I'm just losing my sense of humor in my old age or maybe some people are just truly warped.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:40 PM
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10. However, I must defend my response
NASCAR racing is by nature dangerous. Very different from someone in the general public who dies in an accident. I know that's tragic - been through it.

When Dale Earnhardt died (the last big name to die in a wreck, I believe) I felt very sorry for him and his family. However, it's a dangerous "sport". He didn't deserve to die, but it's an unfortunate possibility in NASCAR.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:43 PM
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12. I took Poor Bastard to mean "poor guy." Maybe it's a local dialect
thing? :shrug:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:46 PM
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15. local dialect?
as far as I know, poor bastard and poor guy mean are different... must be a Southern thing.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 10:37 PM
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32. I'm actually from Chicago,
but bastard can be used as an endearing term here.

Kinda reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where George has to hobnob with those guys from Texas.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:20 PM
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24. i took it to mean the same
:shrug:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:43 PM
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13. Sorry, but what should people have chosen?
None of them fit how I would actually feel, so I chose "poor bastard," because it came closest to reality, as in "that sucks for his family, friends and fans."

Me thinks your judgment is a bit in haste.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:18 PM
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22. i'm a huge race fan, and i voted poor bastard..
we should have a national memorial?! I was saddened the day that DE was killed, though I really never cared for him or his style of racing. How else can you feel? These guys know going in that it is an inherently dangerous occupation. :shrug:
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mrboba1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:33 PM
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34. What would you say?
'I just dont give a Cheney?'

I think 'poor bastard' is about equivalent to 'that sucks' which is about where I stand.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:37 PM
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7. Not Quite
but I read in a LBN posting that Dale Earnhardt, Jr. was burned in an accident today.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x693757

That's why I stay on the 'Latest' page. I know everything :P
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:41 PM
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11. I'll give credit to Earnhardt Jr, he said he liked Fahrenheit 9/11
so in this case I hope the guy is ok.

Heck, I hope anyone in an accident is ok, but I still don't have alot of sympathy for autoracing. It just screams 'bad accidents'
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 06:31 PM
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20. Tinfoil Hat Alert
Accidents DO happen, but this is very soon after expressing a desire to take his pit crew to see F-9/11 :tinfoilhat:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:19 PM
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2. That's a tough one
between poor bastard & evolution
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:20 PM
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4. Poetic justice? Wait until peak oil starts to subside...
When it costs more to procure a barrel of oil for the good that barrel will give us, we're toast.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 04:49 PM
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16. When they scraped the 3 off the wall...
a lot of state government agencies in western NC replaced the US flag with the Earnhardt Flag (you can buy them at the Dale Earnhardt Inc. giftshop in Mooresville and the Richard Childress Racing giftshop in Welcome, among other places) until the next race.

I saw a LOT of US flags flown at half staff here in central NC.

It depends on the driver, and most NASCAR drivers who die in the "line of duty" don't die during the race; Earnhardt was one of the few I remember. They either die during a practice session--Tony Roper in the truck series and Kyle Petty in the Busch series both died in practice sessions at New Hampshire International Speedway--or they die while going to or coming from a race. Alan Kulwicki and Davey Allison both died in aircraft crashes; Kulwicki died in the Bristol, Tenn., area, and Allison died in the Talladega infield. (Alan Kulwicki invented the "Polish Victory Lap"--turning the car around and driving your victory laps clockwise. These make more sense than "regular" victory laps; in a regular victory lap the driver waves to the network cameras and pit crews, but a driver making a Polish victory lap waves to the crowd.)

It's really sad when a driver dies.
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 05:15 PM
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17. that would be
Adam Petty, not Kyle. Kyle and Patty Petty have turned the tragic circumstances of Adam's death into something positive. The Victory Junction Gang camp was created to allow ill children to enjoy a time away from hospitals and still have their treatments. It is affiliated with the Hole in The Wall Camps of which Paul Newman's in Connecticut is one.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 05:50 PM
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18. Adam. D'oh! You're right.
It's a good thing he's doing something positive with his life...because he sure as hell can't drive a stock car anymore.

Strange...he was really good in the Mello Yello car, but once Mello Yello quit sponsoring a stock car he can't do shit in one.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 06:39 PM
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21. When a NASCAR driver dies
Do they cover the coffin with commercial endorsements?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 08:19 PM
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27. Life Insurance ads?
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:31 PM
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25. no slot
for "he immediately goes to paradise where he is greeted by 27 (72?) eager virgins."
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:44 PM
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26. Remember when that professional wrestler died?
They were for some reason lowering him from a cable from the ceiling to the ring. Somebody didn't hook it up right, so he did a sixty foot piledriver and didn't get up at the count of three.

I feel just about the same when a NASCAR driver dies.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 09:22 PM
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29. when someone dies
it affects a lot of people. No matter what, that was someones son or daughter or daddy or mama. Whether or not you think their occupation had value, they were just making a living for their families. Have a freakin' heart.



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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:23 PM
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33. It's funny when it happens to somebody else.
See, for instance, The Darwin Awards.
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 09:38 PM
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30. That's pretty heartless
I'm a wrestling fan and a NASCAR fan, and while I wasn't in tears over Owen Hart (the wrestler who tok that "sixty foot piledriver") I did feel for his wife and two young kids. And so did all the WWF wrestlers who dedicated the next night's TV show to his memory and offered tearful recollections of his memory.

But then who cares when people die in them thar redneck sports, right?
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daligirrl Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 08:25 PM
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28. An angel gets his wings? <eom>
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 09:44 PM
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31. To me ,when of them boys hits the wall, well,its like when Elvis died
I might have to take another week off from work just to get by...
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