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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:02 AM
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Racing Cars: Sport, or Stupidity?
NASCAR, racing cars, speeding around a circular track in a rolling bomb constantly turning left and risking your life. is this a sport, or a bizzare male obsession with death?

if dale earnheardt sr. is killed going 150 miles an hour, and then his son is almost burned to death doing the same, does this qualify them as heroic, or manly? does it make them admirable or role models to our boys?

i don't get it. i see it as just stupid boyish masturbation
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:05 AM
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1. Myself,
I've never seen much sport in it.
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dkhbrit Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:14 AM
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8. Drag racing
Is the mutts nuts IMO.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:48 AM
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13. Hi dkhbrit!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:06 AM
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2. Sport = Stupidity n/t
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:06 AM
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3. Everybody masturbates
It's the ones who don't that worry me.

I come from a racing family. Regardless of motive, racing is a gas. The danger is accepted and is part of the thrill, of course.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:22 AM
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18. Nailed it in 1, teach!
mopaul: For Pete's sake, put yourself in someone else's shoes. Take a good look at your cartoons before you go pointing at someone else's "thing" as being "just stupid boyish masturbation". I'm sure may racing fans would describe what you do in precisely the same terms.

Other people obviously enjoy it. Why sneer at it? And politically speaking, why reinforce the "elitist snooty liberal" stereotype?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:11 AM
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4. I feel exactly...
.... the same way about mountain climbing. Idiots set out all the time, get stuck after an accident or bad weather, and it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars of rescue efforts to retrieve them.

Who's more idiotic?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:12 AM
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5. There's a hell of a lot more strategery involved than I would have ever
guessed. These guys are doing more than just constantly making left turns. They're got the race mapped out in their heads - they're always several laps ahead in their planning at any given point in the race. I admire the strategy and thinking involved.

Having said that, I think it's a foolish and insane way to make a living. Risking your life like that seems dumb to me, just IMHO. NASCAR is something that I just don't "get", but live and let live, I guess.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:12 AM
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6. I enjoy...............
watching F-1 and Indy cars, but the country's fascination with 'left turn' NASCAR baffles me. What challenge is there is always turning left?
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doctorbombeigh Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:12 AM
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7. Stupidity - except for Paul Newman...
he can do whatever he wants to and it's not stupid.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:15 AM
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9. I enjoy real racing
but NASCAR is just a bunch of rednecks going around in a circle, last redneck in front wins.

real racing requires loads of skill and intense driving, with turns in BOTH directions.

mostly, NASCAR seems to just be an excuse for toohtless hillbillies to gather and drink cheap beer while fast billboards go around in a circle
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:27 AM
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19. "Toothless hillbillies" who can VOTE, you mean...
...so don't engage in bigoted name-calling then wonder why they put the elephants in charge.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:43 AM
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22. Yeah, and I may be a hillbilly....
but I definitely have teeth! Seriously, NASCAR is pretty boring to me even though I keep half an ear on the results so I can hear about Arkansas' own Mark Martin. My mom was a huge fan. It was more interesting when she was around b/c she loved it. (She had teeth too!)

Many other sports are the same way to me. The only way football is interesting is if I have a relative playing. I like basketball the best and even it is more interesting if I know someone who is playing.

The only other thing I can say about racing around a track is that my husband says driving a racecar is better than sex. (He doesn't race anymore! LOL)
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AdrianInOcala Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:31 AM
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10. My opinion, from the "inside"....
I crew for an American LeMans Series team, the series where Earnhardt Jr. had his accident last weekend. Racing as a sport, you can argue either way. To be able to maintain concentration over 2-3 hours in a 120+ degree race car takes conditioning, G forces encountered in turns can reach 3-4 G's. So I would draw a paralell to flying a fighter plane, rather than playing football. THe risks are there, you minimze them as much as possible with the safety measures you take, but they are always there. To me NASCAR seems somewhat WWF-like, but still has the same dangers and need for talent as other racing, just kinda dull and low-tech, IMO.
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Steve Beatty Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:56 AM
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11. Nascar > Golf
Well said.

While not 100% what racing should really be about, I still would put NASCAR as more interesting than golf anyway....

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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:57 AM
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12. Nascar
Is a sport that evolved from bootleggers evading the taxman and the Law.

sound familiar. -cheaters and rulebreakers


Anyway I'm partial to the iron horse when it comes to racing.
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Ronin1 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:59 AM
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14. Racing is mentally and physically demanding on drivers & teams.
Michael Shumacher - 6 time Formula 1 World Driving Champion (currently working on his 7th) has been one of the the highest paid athletes (Salary not endorsements)in the world behind Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan for years.

You cannot tell me driving Formula 1 race car on a Road Course topping 220MPH for 2 hours without a time-out is not a sport. Especially vs. bouncing a stupid rubber ball or hitting even a smaller one. Go back to your books.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:00 AM
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15. I don't mind racing. At least they're professionals
and take risks with their own lives.

What I hate are consumers buying wasteful sportscars and endangering private citizens with their stupidity.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:17 AM
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16. If Paul Newman does it professionally, it's not stupid. n/t
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:20 AM
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17. Both. n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:30 AM
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20. Racing Cars - Fun Sport, Watching Racing - Stupid
How can anyone watch fast left turns for hours at a time?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:36 AM
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21. I don't know about the people in the stands...
...but judging from some cousins, it involves beer, cooking out on the grill, and the usual "friends getting together" banter.

You know, the usual stuff for a social event, even if the purported focus doesn't seem very social.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:49 AM
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23. Ernest Hemingway said auto racing and bullfighting were only real sports
and all the rest were just games.

He shot himself in the head.
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