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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:39 PM
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email from my rethug Mom
I remember someone posting rebuttals 2 this a while back - I know I'm sick of posts like this also - but I am really tired of my mother emailing me this crap when I have repeatedly asked her not 2 so I need rebuttal info - did a 'search' but nothing relevant turned up. Thanx

'John Kerry on Defense -- I hadn't seen this list printed before. It would
make one heckuva mailer if it were sent to voters. (So... send it to as
many voters as you can!)

He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank
He voted to kill every aircraft carrier laid down from 1988
He voted to kill the Aegis anti aircraft system
He voted to kill the F-15 Strike Eagle
He voted to kill the Block 60 F-16
He voted to kill the P-3 Orion upgrade
He voted to kill the B-1
He voted to kill the B-2
He voted to kill the Patriot Anti Missile System
He voted to kill the FA-18
He voted to kill the F117

In short, he voted to kill every military appropriation for the development
and deployment of every weapons systems since 1988 to include the battle
armor for our troops. With Kerry as president our Army will be made up of
naked men running around with sticks and clubs.

He also voted to kill all anti terrorism activities of every agency of the
U.S. Government and to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%, to cut the funding
for the CIA by 80%, and cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.

But then he voted to increase OUR funding for U.N operations by 800%!!!
Is THIS a President YOU want?'
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:42 PM
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1. Maybe this thread will help...
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:44 PM
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2. Didn't Dicky boy as Sec of Defense under Poppy actually try to
initiate a lot of these cuts?

Good luck maintaining your sanity with Mom!
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:47 PM
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3. Well, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle was crap, so good for him
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 01:49 PM by truthspeaker
In it's original design the aluminum would catch fire and cook the occupants alive.

Anyway, what's more important? Buying hardware at inflated prices from defense contractors or paying money for training our troops to deal with new threats? Fighter jets aren't much good against terrorists, but highly trained special ops units are.

The greatest strength in our military is the people, not the hardware.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:52 PM
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6. Ahhh, yes the Bradley...
Also know ans the mouse designed by a commitee.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:48 PM
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4. Submit It To Snopes
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:50 PM
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5. Quote Cheney right back to her
"We have to get on with the business of cutting…We have to cut out those things we don't need. We have to cut out those things that we can do without in the military area, that we can do without in terms of the complex that is the Department of Defense…Over the course of the last year, since I've been Secretary, I've recommended terminating, canceling, shutting down 20 separate weapons programs." - Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 4/30/90

"The F-14B, of course, we're terminating in '90. There's no new money in it for '91. The AHIP, the Phoenix missile, the F-15 aircraft, et cetera -- all of those are being terminated in '91…The Apache helicopter, of course, ends in '91. The M1 tank, we're proposing to shut down the M1 tank production lines in '91.” - Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, 2/1/90

Defense Secretary Cheney tried "to reduce active-duty troop strength" from 2.2 million to 1.6 million while making "deep cuts in the Reserves and National Guard." - NY Times, 8/4/91

If President Reagan "doesn't really cut defense, he becomes the No. 1 special pleader in town…The president has to reach out and take a whack at everything to be credible you've got to hit defense." - U.S. Rep. Dick Cheney, 12/16/84 (Center for American Progress, Claim v. Fact Database)
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:00 PM
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7. It's time you grew up and stood up to your Mother.
Whatever you've been doing to date has not resulted in her respecting you or treating you with respect. When anyone treats you badly (except maybe your boss if you don't have another job waiting), you walk away from the relationship after explaining to them that you won't take this disrespect anymore and laying down your terms for change. It's very simple with family members. You agree to disagree and to stop discussing politics. If she persists in sending this crap, get a new email address and don't give it to her.

My Mom had some very racist comments at one time and also took out her frustrations at my step-father by berating sales people. I called her on both behaviors and told her she should be ashamed of herself and that I was very disappointed in her and that she was setting a terrible example for her grandchildren which I would not allow. She fell into line pretty damn quickly because she really does love me and her grandkids.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:20 PM
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9. U obviously have no rethugs in your family
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:29 PM by rozf
I am the ONLY progressive person in my family. I cannot tell U how many times I have 'stood up' 2 my mother and father and grandmother and brother and sisters. I am stuck in some head picture they have all decided I must B and there is no getting around it. My mother would NEVER confront me one on one - no one in my family will. I do not engage them politically cuz I have nothing in common w/ them. It is this hit 'n run BS that really fires me up.

add'l - my mom has very low self esteem - I think she has a huge problem recognizing other women who do not. It is outside her sphere of experience.

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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:08 PM
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8. John Kerry hates pregnant women
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:09 PM by JohnnyRingo
Hahaha... that's Buxh's TV ad message here in Ohio.

Normal thinking people would (should) find all this hard to believe.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:26 PM
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10. thanx DUers
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 02:35 PM by rozf
DUers R gems!

CO Lib - Thanx 4 snopes. I usually send her there cuz the BS I get from her is so easily Xposed.

RobertSeattle - thanx 4 the chenfuckney quotes - My mother LOVES unca dick. She was beside herself when he added himself 2 the ticket in '00. I think she really voted 4 chenfuckney not squatter.

Add: thank U 4 the DU link teach1st - that is the one I remember reading.
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