Libertarians?

[onebigbadwulf]

What I find really strange is that Bill Maher is a self-proclaimed libertarian, yet is on the crusade to stop Bush.

However, every single libertarian I personally know votes Republican 100% of the time.

So what's the deal? These guys are nuts.

[MattNC]

1. Every Libertarian I know

votes Libertarian almost 100% of the time. :)

[Taverner]

2. Well Every Libertarian I know

Votes Democrat. They don't like it, but they know in their heart of hearts the Dems are closer to their core beleifs. Mainly they want to be left alone to their swinger parties and tech jobs. Repubs raise taxes, start wars and enforce morality.

[onebigbadwulf]

3. Repubs raise taxes?

I think you might be a little mistaken.

[Taverner]

4. Check your tax stats

They say they lower them, but more taxes were enacted under Bush I than Clinton.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Depends on what they value more highly, social freedoms or a free economy.

the first gets them to vote Dem or libertarian (or occasionally Green, but not often), the second has them voting Lib or GOP.

[nightperson]

6. Here are two libertarian sites that pound Bush and many other Republicans:

LewRockwell.com and Antiwar.com.

[MrBenchley]

12. Lewrockwell.com is a neoNazi site

Check out the King Lincoln crap...or some of the shit in the Rothbard section of their website...

"The Ludwig von Mises Institute, founded in 1982 by Llewellyn Rockwell Jr. and still headed by him, is a major center promoting libertarian political theory and the Austrian School of free market economics, pioneered by the late economist Ludwig von Mises. It publishes seven journals, has printed more than 100 books, and offers scholarships, prizes, conferences and a major library at its Auburn, Ala., offices.
It also promotes a type of Darwinian view of society in which elites are seen as natural and any intervention by the government on behalf of social justice is destructive. The institute seems nostalgic for the days when, "because of selective mating, marriage, and the laws of civil and genetic inheritance, positions of natural authority likely to be passed on within a few noble families."
A key player in the institute for years was the late Murray Rothbard, who worked with Rockwell closely and co-edited a journal with him. The institute's Web site includes a cybershrine to Rothbard, a man who complained that the "Officially Oppressed" of American society (read, blacks, women and so on) were a "parasitic burden," forcing their "hapless Oppressors" to provide "an endless flow of benefits."
"The call of 'equality,'" he wrote, "is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human." Rothbard blamed much of what he disliked on meddling women. In the mid-1800s, a "legion of Yankee women" who were "not fettered by the responsibilities" of household work "imposed" voting rights for women on the nation. Later, Jewish women, after raising funds from "top Jewish financiers," agitated for child labor laws, Rothbard adds with evident disgust. The "dominant tradition" of all these activist women, he suggests, is lesbianism. "

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=106#11

[TXlib]

7. A lot of the libertarians I know dislike Bush

But they mistrust Kerry more.

Is Kerry every Dem's ideal candidate? Heck, no, but we're voting for him anyway. Is that evidence of cognitive dissonance on our part?

[Martin Eden]

14. No, it's not cognitive dissonance.

It's the imperative of ousting Bush. Electing Kerry, unfortunately, is the only way to do it.

It's a stopgap measure, and indicative of how screwed up our "democracy" really is.

qualifier:
Among all who had any chance of being elected president in 2004, Kerry is not a bad choice -- it's just a shame we don't have better choices. If Kucinich somehow won the nomination (I voted for him), I think he would have less of a chance than Kerry. Nader is on the ballot, but the electoral effect of his candidacy is favorable to Bush.

We have to be realists, and ABB is a necessity. The important thing is that we must continue to press for a better America no matter who is president. Right now the most important leaders are each of us, and we have to make progress by educating and changing minds on a persona; basis one at a time.

[Bat Boy]

8. For those of you who were curious...

Here's a great website devoted to slapping right wing libertarians around a wee bit...


http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html

[leftyandproud]

9. You don't know ANY Libertarians

They loathe the Bush cabal...fought him on the patriot act...the Iraq war, an even the Afghanistan war (some of them at least) They have a foreign policy of non intervention so naturally the neocons hate them. They are also pro choice and support equal rights for everyone, including gays. They generally support tax cuts though, but only when accompanies with spending cuts. Ron Paul has voted against many GOP budget plans because they don't reduce spending to offset tax reductions. He is an outcast in the GOP, and a big critic of bushco. Do a google search for his speech "neoconned" if you really want to be impressed ;)

[MrBenchley]

11. I know a shitload of them

and I've yet to meet one with anything to say worth the hearing....

And Ron Paul is one of the biggest idiots in public life....he's opposed to birth control, the UN, the SEC, taxes of any sort, workers rights, environmental protection, and pretty much everything else in America.

[leftyandproud]

15. in other words...

he wants less government.

[MrBenchley]

10. I've yet to meet one who wasn't a fucking idiot in every way

As far as I can see, the only difference between a libertarian and a run of the mill right wing loony is that the libertarian has a modem and an even more tedious line of ugly horseshit.

[Philostopher]

13. I knew one.

Back around sElection 2000. He was a 'dope-smokin' Republican,' which is (my disclaimer) what most people in southwestern Ohio who call themselves Libertarians actually are. He voted for Bush, and probably will again.

So yeah, I'd say much the same as you -- except the Libertarians I know differ from Republicans in that they usually own a bong and know where to get righteous dope.