Do you ever want to give up and become a conservative?

[Gothic Sponge]

It takes work to be a liberal! It would be so easy to just give up all convictions and goose step with the repugs. Why lead an examined life when you could just say fuck it?

My neighbors think i'm strange for recycling my bottles and cans. I'm the only person on my block that puts out their recycling. I'll give that up and put flags on my car, just like my neighbors. We should just do whatever we want in the world....right? We are Americans!!!

Sorry for the rant! I was just separating my recycling and thinking how easy it would be to give up.


I think i need sleep....

[Ellen Forradalom]

1. I might give up

but that doesn't mean I'd become a conservative. The second doesn't follow from the first.

[NJCher]

10. I think I see his point

I can say that because I had a moment just like this a few weeks ago.

If you're the country's current brand of conservative, it's "all about me." When it's "all about me," individual time is more important than doing anything for the public good--like separating the recycling.

So whether you're a conservative in name or not, you become a de facto conservative because you've put yourself and your own interests before the public good.


Cher

[Ellen Forradalom]

36. Now hold on just a second there

I like my individual time as much as the next American. Just because I sit on the back porch, post to DU, chat with my friends and play my 'ukulele, does that mean I'm suddenly a conservative? :-)

[umass1993]

2. I empathize

Imagine lowering your stress level the old fashioned way, just don't give a shit.

I think of saying "Fuck the World" too. But it's like trying to believe in Santa,, you want to, but you can't.

[Gothic Sponge]

6. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[umass1993]

25. thank you

There are some danm funny people on this site.

[Name removed]

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[Gothic Sponge]

8. Yes, i'm F**kin' stupid

:eyes:

[TexasProgresive]

4. I would be easier for a homosexual to

decide to go straight because of all the hassles.

[Gothic Sponge]

27. Well, that's what the repugs want

homosexuals should just live a lie.

[NightTrain]

5. I was a conservative until age 22.

I'm 38 now and would never go back!

[laura888]

30. what changed you? n/t

[NightTrain]

31. It was a gradual process.

I came of age in the '80s under Reagan. My father was a Teamster who complained long and bitterly about how the Republicans under Reagan had weakened the labor movement. Ironically, my father was generally conservative as hell! :shrug:

At 17, I became involed with the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" cult, through which I made a number of gay and lesbian friends. This sensitized me to that community's problems with the AIDS crisis, their ongoing struggle for equality under the law, etc.

As the 1980s progressed (for lack of a better word), I started seeing all these homeless people around. I didn't remember having seen them during the Carter presidency. That, coupled with a bit of research at the local library, sensitized me to the plight of America's homeless.

What it all boils down to is that slowly, over a period of several years, I put two and two together, and realized that I was not a conservative. Hope that answers your question!

[Gothic Sponge]

32. I think i've always been a liberal...

Good to hear you realized that you're not a conservative.

[onebigbadwulf]

7. I gave up and moved to NZ but didn't become a conservative

more like a silent liberal.

Not fighting doesn't necessarily mean joining the enemy.

[Gothic Sponge]

11. A sleeping soldier isn't going to help win a war.

:thumbsdown:

[umass1993]

23. norway

I thought of going to Norway. Never been theri but it seems nice.

But then again, I wouldn't be around other Patriots fans there. Right now, I would say the NFL is the best thing about the USA. If the Pats don't make it to the playoffs O'll have to do some real soul searching ;-)

[CO Liberal]

9. Yes - And It's Always Hard to Get Back To Sleep After Dreams Like That

:-)

[sundog]

12. nope. never, no way... there is a higher price for selling your soul

--

[Maccagirl]

13. We all need sleep Gothic

I empathize with your rant and feelings. Knocking your head against a brick wall hurts after awhile. It's so hard to understand when you know in your heart and gut that you believe in and are doing the RIGHT thing. I've fallen into a depression many times, and more likely will continue to do so, but 1) I will never BECOME a conservative and 2) staying the course is the only way.

[Gothic Sponge]

19. Amen!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

14. Sometimes I wish I were that clueless...

Have you seen how BLISSFUL those fuckers are?
Duckie

[Gothic Sponge]

16. Yes! They remind me of Stepford Wives.

[TrogL]

15. I posted a thread like this awhile ago

The Freeper caught on and started their own thread saying it might be possible to convert me. When they announced "all we have to do is get him in a room and yell at him for awhile" I realized it wasn't going to work.

The only thing that keeps many conservatives in line is hours and hours of brainwashing by Rush, fundie preachers and their ilk.

I don't brainwash that easy.

[Gothic Sponge]

18. Are you sure you don't brainwash easily ?

Look into my eyes....you are getting sleepy...

;)

[umass1993]

24. how do they do it?

How do people believe in Jesus and all that business? I mean, it has too good to be true written all over it.

How can someone believe that Iraq was about fighting terrorism?

How did James Woolsey become DCI?

All mysteries to me.

[realisticphish]

33. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE

BELIEVES IN JESUS DOES NOT MAKE THEM CONSERVATIVE!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *runs screaming from room*
sorry about that, im a raving loony and just woke up...


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Gothic Sponge]

37. Organized religion has jaded many people.....

If Jesus did exist, he was a liberal. :)

[realisticphish]

38. o, aye

i believe he did exist(whether he was divine or no is a question for the dead). I'm proud of being a christian, and it just pains me to no end that we get dragged down with the psycho fundies all the time. Yes, i know, christianity has done some fucked up stuff, but then so has atheism (i.e. Stalin). *sigh* i guess im just coming down off of several loooong threads on chrisitanity this weekend

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[NMDemDist2]

17. not only no

but hell NO! :mad:

[indigobusiness]

20. That's like choosing to be a girl...

Takes more than giving up.

[nini]

21. my conscience wouldn't let me

and ultimatley I have to live with myself.

I know what you mean though. Hang in there! Fight the good fight!

[DS1]

22. No, because then I'd be just like everyone else that gave up

and found it easier to be on the currently winning side. Fuck that.

Visions are worth fighting for. Why spend your life making someone else's dreams?

-Orson Welles

[Khephra]

26. Put the glasses on!

:evilgrin:

[PVnRT]

28. I have a high price

I'll gladly switch my ideology for a guarenteed, tax-free payment of $3 billion a year for doing nothing. Seriously, I'll believe anything you want me to for that price.

[Gothic Sponge]

29. I seriously hope that's a joke.....

[bearfan454]

34. Never in a million years !

Cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needele in my eye.

[ikojo]

35. I'm a CUBS fan....

I think that answers the question. 96 years and counting since the last time the Cubbies won the World Series. Cubs fans are a patient lot.

REAL Cubs fans don't give up. We may have crisis of faith in the Cubs but we return to the fold and continue supporting the loveable losers that are the Cubs.

I will NEVER EVER become a CONservative. It would be akin to my becoming a Cardinals fan and if that hasn't happened after 17 years in St Louis then I don't think it ever will.

DEFEAT BUSH


GO CUBS!!!

[AlCzervik]

39. Nope, as a former republican

i will never go back. The collective lunacy of the gop drove me out in 99 but by 94 i was already disgusted. It is indeed alot easier to be a republican but it takes guts to be a liberal and actually giving a shit about real issues. After i had my daughter in 94' i think thats when i really started looking at the world in a different light and realizing i dodn't want the gop having a hand my child's future.

[amazona]

40. no

I was more conservative when I was younger, but I would have to close my eyes and give up my memory of most of my life experiences to be conservative now. I think it is natural for very young people to be conservative -- children have an innate dislike for change, for the most part -- but as you get older and see the injustice in the world, your choice is to be blind to reality or to try to improve things. Maybe it sounds snotty, but my conservative friends are not anywhere near as intelligent and well-informed as I am. They have deliberately chosen the path of blindness. I don't envy stupid people for being stupid. I pity them.

[MrScorpio]

41. Been liberal all my life. I wouldn't know any other way

But there are sometimes I wish the wife and I had never left Europe and stayed in the Netherlands instead.

It's so easy to be liberal in that place.

[Gothic Sponge]

42. I know it sounds like a cliché, but

If Bush wins, i might be going to the Netherlands!

[JeniB]

43. No more than I'd give up being a Red Sox fan

to become a Yankees fan. It's fun to take the easy route, but in the end there's no pride in it. There's something satisfying about giving your all for something you believe in. And whether you win or not, knowing you were on the right side.

[Cannikin]

44. Yeah, I'll go conservative, right after I go straight.

[VOX]

45. Reminds me of Garrison Keillor's "We're All Republicans Now" song...

http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/20031129/scripts/republican.shtml
Republicans
Saturday, November 29, 2003
GK: A few months ago I set out on a personal journey to become a Republican, and of course I lost some of my leftist friends, which doesn't bother me because frankly most of them were getting old anyway and they're complaining about their health and I can see where in a few years they're going to be asking me for favors and they're just more trouble than they're worth. And like most Democrats they're all upset and they're introspective and that's a bore. Now that I'm a Republican I'm not interested in politics anymore, I'm able to turn my full attention to home decorating, which is my true love.

The news is about yesterday. Home decoration is about tomorrow. In the future, my home will have a new serenity about it, thanks to drapes and improved lighting ---- there is no need to ever experience cloudy days anymore when you have a home lighting system ----- just turn on a switch and you're happy.

GK: (SINGS)
We're all Republicans now
We're all united, and how,
There's no more dissent
We're all in the tent
We're all Republicans now
We're free from worry and cares,
We got ours so let them get theirs.
We live in nice houses, we drive a nice car,
We have more fun cause that's just how we are
We play hard and work hard and, just so you know,
We're smarter than you, that's why we've got the dough,
Cause we're Republicans,
We are Republicans,
We're all Republicans now.