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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 03:51 PM
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Do you think 'On the Waterfront' was an anti-union film?
When i was a teen working at a summer job, i would occasionally talk to a coworker about movies. He said 'On the Waterfront' was a great film because it was anti-union. I wasn't well informed back then, and i didn't see the movie until i was in my early twenties. I don't think it's anti-union, but i can see how a freeper type would. What do you think?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 03:57 PM
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1. If you think all unions are corrupt, then you'd think it was anti-union.
I don't think they are, so I don't think that it is.

Of course, it has an interesting history, as many people believe it to be a film that metaphorically justifies its director's decision to squeal to the House UnAmerican Activities Committee.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:05 PM
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2. Exactly
I didn't think it was anti-union after i saw the film. However, when i started to learn about the blacklisting and Elia Kazan....It made me reconsider the possibility.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:11 PM
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3. Yes. The whole "naming names" aspect, and Brando/Terry's...
...internal/external struggle in the film is surely rooted in Kazan's own situation.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:16 PM
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4. So in answer to your question No. Not anti-union. (n/t)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:17 PM
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5. Wasnt Elie Kazan a friend of leftist Arthur Miller and a leftist himself
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:50 PM
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8. Yes. And they had a huge falling out over Kazan's testimony to HUAAC.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:18 PM
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6. It portrays unions in a bad light, and thus is as anti-union
as the song "Day tripper" is misogynist.

Or so I am told.
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:26 PM
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7. It is anti street crooks taking over a union of common folks just like
Bush has done with out country. I see On the Waterfront as a metaphor for today's presidency.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:53 PM
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9. It's the perfect metaphor
scary!
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:08 PM
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10. a union is not just its leadership, the rank and file are more important
the film referred to gangsters at the top of an organization, and kazan showed clearly the dichotomy between the ethics and morality of the leadership versus that of the rank and file.
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