Am I Weird? Are you Weird?

[elfwitch]

Does this make me weird or unusual?

I like:
Cars
Comic books
Sci-Fi / Fantasy movies
On-line RPG (D&D)
Action Figures
Guitars
Legos / Tinker Toys
Video Games
Trench warfare style political discussions
Beer (not piss yellow American beer, REAL beer like Guinness)

I don't like:
Shopping
Shoes
Make-up
Hair "product"
Chick flicks
Frilly things
Cooking
Cleaning
Sewing

I can:
Fix my own car (oil, brakes, belts, etc)
Build a computer
Do most small home repairs (plumbing and carpentry)

I won't/don't:
Go to baby showers
Go to bridal showers
Make goo goo faces at babies
Get excited about the new Avon catalog
Give girlie hugs and squeal
Get dressed up unless absolutely necessary
Talk about mushy "feelings"

There are many more things about me (a hetero female) that make me very unlike many of the other of my gender and orientation. Sometimes I think that maybe I was wired weird or raised by wolves without my knowledge. but then i realize that my mother and my grandmother are pretty non-traditional females as well.

Am I a freak of nature? Or is it something else?

What things are on your I like, I don't like, I can, I won't/don't LIST that make you feel a little bit or a lot bit different from your "peers"?

[GOPisEvil]

1. You're just not stereotypical.

That is a good thing.

[elfwitch]

6. Thanks!

Is there anything you do that you feel is out of step with "dude-hood"?

[GOPisEvil]

18. Hmmm...I can be kind of a clothes and shoes horse.

Although I am reforming that somewhat.

I'm a decent cook, I don't like The Man Show. Think my membership will get revoked?

[elfwitch]

21. I'll kick anybody's ass that tries...

to take your man card away!

[TXlib]

89. No, but your member might be.

:evilgrin:

[mrboba1]

2. sigh....

:loveya:

[elfwitch]

5. "sigh...."?

Did I depress you somehow?

[mrboba1]

8. no - my heart is a-flutter...

[elfwitch]

11. Oh

Okay.
:pals:

[skypilot]

3. Yeah, you're pretty screwed up.

Put on a frilly dress and make me some lunch.

[elfwitch]

9. Umm NO

You don't have any hooks in your butt connecting you to your chair - make your own damn sammich!

[skypilot]

Sammich???

I don't want no damn sammich. I want the full picnic spread, just like I know a frilly, made-up young filly like yourself can provide.

[elfwitch]

17. Oh, I didn't realize...

Well, with a line like that maybe I'll renounce me deviant lifestyle and embrace a life of "true womanhood".

I'll start baking.
I'll have more babies.
I'll wear full make-up and heels to make you a six course dinner.
I'll agree with every male opinion.
I'll join the Ladies Axillary of the Moose Lodge.
I'll teach Sunday school.
I'll vote Republican!

Thank You! You've saved me from a life of feminist lies and denial of my true purpose in life. To submit to the male in all ways for it was the male that was made in God's image and it is he who lets us women submit unto male authority so we may receive our true reward in heaven.

[skypilot]

23. Thatta girl.

;-)

[elfwitch]

24. Can I get you your pipe?

Can I find your slippers?
Can I fix you a drink?

[skypilot]

33. Yes.

Yes and yes.

[elfwitch]

34. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways...

Do you think you could also do something about my pesky Judaism? I know I can't be a COMPLETE woman as long as I hold on to that heathen notion.

[skypilot]

45. Judaism?

I thought you were a pagan, Wiccan moon child.

[elfwitch]

47. Nope

Big Jew.
That's me.
I spin the dreidle.
I don't eat pork.
I go to "church" on Friday night.
Big Jew.
That's me.

[skypilot]

52. Is that from a Jewish hip-hop tune?

:)

[elfwitch]

55. No just my own natural wit...

If I were a Jewish hip-hop artist I could be Jewey J or Snoop Jewey Jewman.

[skypilot]

57. Snoop Jewey Jewman!!!

:headbang:

[elfwitch]

58. Jewey Jewman

That is what Dennis Leary used to call Jon Stewart back in the old days when they were both on the comedy club circuit.

[skypilot]

61. Oh.

Darn. I thought that was your own creation. Dennis Leary annoys me. I got tired of him and his cranky, chain-smoking schtick.

Ooooh, "schtick". That's a Jewish word.:) Did I spell it right?

[elfwitch]

65. Close enough...

I dunno, Jon and he are friends way back. If Jon likes somebody or they interview well on his show, it usually raises that person in my esteem a little bit.

[skypilot]

69. Jon adores me.

We're like THIS:pals:

[elfwitch]

70. Sweetie...

You little flag raised you in my esteem. I am proud as can be for anybody, especially in the current climate of fear and hate, that proudly lets their rainbow flag fly.

I love each and every one of my rainbow flagged bothers and sisters. I'm not "Family" but I am a friend of the family.

[skypilot]

71. So, where's my lunch?!?!

:evilgrin:

[elfwitch]

73. If it was up your butt kicking field goals you'd know.

You know. I've decided just to be me.
I'm sure that there is a McDonalds around somewhere.

Maybe have pizza delivered?

[skypilot]

74. Get the pizza.

You'll be the one feeling your lunch kicking field goals if you eat at Micky D's. At least, that's been my experience.

[elfwitch]

75. And yet...

now and then I get a craving for it. Isn't that weird?

[skypilot]

77. I know.

Right this minute the thought of McDonald's food makes me slightly sick but then there are rare occasions when I make a beeline for McD's as though I were in a trance. I come out of the trance a few hours later in the bathroom.

[ET Awful]

4. You sound perfectly fine to me . . .

It's the majority of your gender that has the so-called "problem" :) :) :) (just kidding to the rest of you ladies out there).

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

7. I admire you Elfwitch

At least what I have seen - but then again, I 'm not the best one to ask this question to?

:)

[elfwitch]

14. Why are you not the best person?

What makes you weird?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

20. I like all sorts of bizarre stuff

And I buck the trends! I'd hate to NOT be weird!

[elfwitch]

22. Don't "NORMAL" people scare you a bit?

Don't you find them to be a little too NORMAL? Don't you secretly suspect that they are aliens or weird government agents bent on enforcing an outmoded and non-existent hegemony?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

25. Sincerely I do

I suspect anyone who doesn't have some sort of obscure and unique quirk (and the more the merrier)

[jukes]

41. C

you're an excellent weirdo!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

48. Thank you Jukes

As are you!

[truthspeaker]

10. A more important question: Are you single?

Because, damn, you sound perfect.

[elfwitch]

12. Nope

I found the one human hetero male on the planet (or at least in my geographical region at the time) that loves me exactly as I am.

He knows he got something rare. And NO it wasn't a STD either!

[jukes]

42. STDs aren't rare

i've had several!

[truthspeaker]

13. I'm a guy, I don't follow sports, and I like the Pet Shop Boys

although in many ways I'm like a regular guy.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Weirdo!

Just kidding! Somebody had to say it, or it wouldn't be The Lounge.
The Professor

[SarahB]

15. You're yourself.

I like to look very girly on the outside, but find relating to most women (with exception most of the ones I met on DU and a few others an exception) tedious. I like politics and I'm rather nonhuggy and stand-offish with most people. I can be pretty assertive, sarcastic and blunt at times too. I like sci-fi too! I do though, like girly movies, shopping, light beer, babies, frilly things, and cooking, but dislike sports. I've even been known to be mushy on occasion, but it kind of scares me most of the time in all honesty. I can though, do all sorts of household projects and love refinishing furniture. :D

[kitkatrose]

46. Woohoo!

Looks like I've found a sister. :loveya: We seem to be pretty similar, although, I hate frilly things, girly movies, shopping with other people, and think the best part of other people's babies is that they go home, eventually. ;) But yeah, my favorite pastimes are sarcasm and politics. Unfortunately, no one shares my like of politics. I could go on and on and on and on about them, but most people find them tedious, except for DU.

However, I am not the most emotional personl in the world (serious understatement) and have been called a Vulcan? by one of my friends. Whichever the logical unemotional one is in Star Trek. I haven't decided if that was a compliment or not yet.

[SarahB]

53. The weird thing about having been so emotionally pragmatic....

I find that underneath it all I'm very emotional. Just so emotional that I don't like to unleash it all. I mean, I'm a cordial person, but more detached most of the time. Sort of paradoxical.

I wear pink though...and makeup (subtle as tasteful of course)...and my hair is long. Right now, I have on a pink shirt and pink and red flowered mini skirt. I like being a Femmey Feminist. :D

Nothing to prove, it's just me! :7

[kitkatrose]

64. I'm like that too. I attribute it to being a Cancer.

:D But really, when I was a kid, I was so emotional. I would cry because someone else cried; overdeveloped empathy I guess. And people would look at me cross-eyed like I had a problem.

I hate pink with a passion and I'm pissed that I can't find that much stuff without it. Conversely, I look very good in pink, so I'm encouraged to wear it. :eyes: I go through stages with makeup; I like it to dress up, not to wear everyday, mostly cuz I forget to put it on. I just like to look nice, unless it's one of those days. Then I couldn't care less, as long as I won't get arrested for it. :D

[tigereye]

84. I'm a Cancer too

and I do like to cook sometimes and I do like shopping for funky clothes. But I am not at all domestic. I am a good mommy, but I am a feminist, old school punk drummer, former nerd, boho, bookish, do tai chi, prof. woman, and have always been more like one of the guys. I prefer black clothes, but I like purple too. But pink, just not me. And I too managed to find a progressive guy who likes me just the way I am.

Hence, Elfwitch, you are not alone in your "weirdness," also known as normalcy! :yourock:

[Beer Snob-50]

16. Your are not a freak

I cann't/won't fix my car or do carpentry. I don't know the difference between house styles. And I am a hetro-male. I am good at gardening, I prefer browsing book stores to furniture places.

[Philostopher]

26. I've told people I was raised by wolves.

I was much closer to the men in my family -- both in age and in most other ways -- than I was to the women. I had two older cousins who used to work on cars, and by the time I was ten years old I knew the difference between a crescent wrench and a pipe wrench, and that Lowell George used a Craftsman 9/16" socket to play slide guitar. For a long time, I thought they ruined me because when I was a teenager, guys all wanted to be my buddy. I realize at this late remove that was partly because that was the way I dealt with guys, but I didn't get it then.

The best part about being different is that when you do find men who understand and can deal with you, it's usually a more equal and honest relationship than if you were pretending to be 'girly.' I don't mean to say that women who are genuinely 'girly' don't have honest relationships with the men who like that about them -- just that those of us who try to fake it make trouble for ourselves faking it.

Mr. Nownow and I are very much alike about many things. He likes to watch sports once in a while, and I seldom do, but we both like to build things, work on the cars, cook, shop for groceries. He actually is more of a clothes horse and enjoys that kind of shopping more than I do. But I have more shoes (probably because I hate shopping, so I tend to make judgments on shoes much too quickly).

[Westegg]

27. A freak? Hell no, you sound like fun. I'm a straight man who likes...

opera, Joni Mitchell, cooking, collecting antiques (including vintage kitchen ware), shopping for clothes and shoes (I have two pairs of pink socks), Sylvia Plath and Edith Wharton, fresh flowers. Etc. Yeah, I like manly stuff too, but the larger point is I like what I like, and so do you, and you're cool as hell in my book.

Rock on with your bad self.

[elfwitch]

28. Will rock on!

And be as bad as I can!

[terrya]

29. You sound like a metrosexual, Westegg. :-) Very cool likes.

Good for you. :-)

[Westegg]

36. Sure. But why do I really dislike that friggin term "metrosexual"?

Because it's a media creation, I guess. It's not un-clever, but this need to label everything and everyone rubs me the wrong way. I had the same reaction to "Generation X" when it was foisted upon me and my peeps. And don't even get me started on "alternative music." Etc. Hell, you know what I'm talking about. I've been backing steadily away from my orginal profession---a journalist covering "pop culture" (another term I loathe)---because it really is too much about labelling and piegonholing for easy consumption by people who need their culture and their philosophy pre-chewed.

Not a rant directed at you, terrya. Not at all. You're the hippest, as Jerry would say. It's just that it's Thursday, so it's "ranting day" here at Westegg World Headquarters.

[TrogL]

30. Will you marry me?

[elfwitch]

31. You would have to...

challenge my husband to hand-to-hand combat to the death for that right. Just to prepare you for the fight, he's 6'0" at about 315lbs. and has a 2nd degree black belth in Aikido and was a Marine.

Good luck!

[jukes]

43. aikido rocks!

not my style, but a beautiful art. tell him i'm impressed (but remind him that the 1st cav saved the marines asses @ que san; always good for a rise from gyrene's!)

[elfwitch]

49. He's not THAT kind of gyrene

But I'd put him up against damn near anybody and not fear for his safety. He also (pre-Aikido) did about 5 other martial arts including Wing Chun. He is big but very fast!

When my big man bear is around I worry not in the slightest about my safety. When he was a kid, other kids would pay him to beat the crap out of people who were picking on them. He went to Jr high as a rich kid school and the little WASPy punks always picked on the Jewish kids that went there.

He'd normally get about $50 per "hit" if you will. It paid for his comic books.

[jukes]

78. my kinda guy

sure to be a fine lib, if you love him so.

ok, i forgive him for being a leather neck. besides, i doubt i cd take him.

[Aristus]

32. You sound pretty cool to me, elfwitch. Could I persuade you to

change the oil in my car? :D B-)

[elfwitch]

35. I said I CAN

I didn't say I DO. I pay somebody to do it.
Doing it yourslef these days is too big a fricken hassle.

[Aristus]

37. Okay, let's pay someone to do it, then you and I and your husband

can share a nice Mack and Jack's, or Fat Tire, or Alaskan Amber.

[elfwitch]

40. Or my favorite...

SHINER BOCK!

[Aristus]

44. Hmm. Never had any.

Good stuff? I guess so. :beer::toast:

[elfwitch]

50. Texas only beer...

You gotta come to Texas to get Shiner. Best damn stuff there is!

[Aristus]

51. Mmm. Maybe. I was born and raised in Texas. Long before

B*sh befouled an already foul state, I took a vow never to go back. Maybe if things change. Good Texans like you and the other Lone Star DU-er's will effect change for the better. End of polemic.

Care for another beer? :D :beer::beer:

[eyesroll]

38. Sounds pretty non-freaky to me

I cook and bake. I can do minor repairs to clothing (I lack a sewing machine for major repairs). I know everything there is to know about cleaning (well, no, not really, but it's what I write about for a living). I wear skirts and dresses more often than pants -- more due to fit than anything (I'm 5'2" and my legs are even shorter, proportionally), but they're not lacy/frilly/pink.

I don't enjoy bridal showers, but I go if I have to. (It's the games -- I'm OK with the "sitting around drinking wine" part.) I wear minimal makeup if I have to, none if I don't. I don't squeal either. My hair is washed and combed and that's about it. I look horrible in pastels. I don't own a single pair of shoes that cost more than $30. I traded in all of the Bath & Body Works bath bubbles, body spray and scented oils I received for Christmas/Hanukkah last year for hand soap, lip balm and tea.

I can do many small home repairs as well (plumbing, masonry). I like the hardware store. I read and watch lots of sci-fi. I installed broadband and set up the network here myself. I got into a 30-minute argument with a self-proclaimed fundamentalist preacher about abortion and school vouchers at a fair last week. I can hold my own in a discussion about the in-field fly rule or the designated hitter (although I'm not into sports). I taught myself HTML, out of a book, because the editor that came with Geocities sucked so badly I decided to build a site from scratch. I am capable of nerding up just about anything.

[jukes]

39. not weird, VERY cool!

excellent list.

my girlieman cat love is often horrifying to males; it frequently evokes crass "meat" comments, & i have difficulty not invoking "badagris" in response.

i've been a psychological vegetarian for 35 some years, just can't tolerate the thought of eating flesh.

i'm an excellent cook, gourmet quality. mostly italian, but also specialize in soups. i even cook flesh!

i enjoy chemical usage, but can't tolerate alcohol, either it's taste or effex (do miss margaritas someXs, but prudence prevails, i'm an asshole drunk!)

i sing to my cats, even @ the vets.

not all liberals are pacifists, much to the chagrin of the butch-male fundies on my street. they avoid me, but practice "secret" harassment.

i don't hate chickflix, & love independant films.

i can openly admit that j. depp & george clooney are sexy mofos, even though i'm straight.

i was once in a knife fight; have a slash across all four fingers of my left hand (mist the block, thawt he'd severed tendons) and a stab scar on my left ribcage (only amateurs "stab"). he'll think of me everytime he shaves for the rest of his life! (oh, i won.)

i have a love of cemeteries, & someXs go to one to meditate.

i once fasted for three days, & met my totem. (even though i'm an atheist, go figure)

guess that's enough boring b/s for the nonce.

EDIT: i'm a bit of a braggart, i guess, but that HARDLY sets me apart from most males.

[jukes]

54. And juke's

loquaciousness kills yet another thread. sorry, elfwitch.

you rock, though.

[elfwitch]

56. thread is doin fine!

You didn't kill anything.

[Aristus]

59. I think I came close to killing it by bashing Texas.

I'm sorry, but I know whereof I speak.

[elfwitch]

68. No but you might...

get a bash right back from me. Texas has a lot of problems. but what state doesn't?

I am proud (in spite of all that has happened) of my Texican birth. But then as I've said many times, South Texas and North Texas are like two completely different places. If I had been raised in North Texas, I might not feel the same way.

[jukes]

81. OK., but there's good libs everywhere

even some of us in JawJah!

[jukes]

79. relieved!

seemed stalled for a bit, but i often forget to refresh. ws hate to snuff your stuff, but i can't shut up someXs.

mine died hours ago.

[mongo]

60. Thank the gods there are ladies like you in the world.

and I'm fortunate to have one myself. Would not trade her for the world.

[elfwitch]

66. So that is where the other one is...

I often get asked where women like me are at. Apparently they are in Ohio.

[LynneSin]

62. Non-weirdos get tombstoned from DU

We're all a little nutty in our own way

:bounce:

WHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[arbusto_baboso]

63. No, you're not weird at all.

A little role-reversal from what's usually "excpected" in a woman, but what's wrong with that?

BTW, I think I'm in love.:loveya:

[elfwitch]

67. Thanks...

A little love needs to be spread around.

[Aftershock]

72. You aren't weird.

You're absolutely fine, from what I can tell. :)

[supernova]

76. Not you're not wierd

just not traditionally feminine in a lot of ways. I'm like that too.

Here's My lists:

I like

Comics
Electronic gadgets
phones
PDAs
all kinds of entertainment equip
Tools
Political debates
A good shot of whiskey
Living in the country
living without pantyhose
Action/Sci Fi Movies
Clothes that make me feel comfortable
Doing artistic things like painting


I don't like:
Frilly lacy clothes
Frilly lacy decor
Pantyhose
Give girly hugs and squeal.
Get excited about the new Avon catelogue
Sitting around emoting about my feelings.
Expectations that I be more of the above. :grr:

I can:
Batten down the house to survive a hurricane and other emergencies.
Paint a room
Change a tire
put together assembly-required furniture


My demeanor can be described as aloof if I don't know you well. But all that is earased over a cup of coffee.

[Chovexani]

80. Wow you sound just like me

Except I don't own a car, and I sew because I'm into Renaissance and Victorian-era clothes and they cost a fortune (dressing like a weirdo costs money). I am also into cosplay, which demands an ability to sew. I can't stand beer, but I like a good tall glass of mead.

Then again I'm not hetero, I'm bi. Another thing that makes me "weird" I guess.

I also hate hip hop and rap music (though I did enjoy the Black Eyed Peas last night at the convention), which is a crime tantamount to treason if you're black. My favorite genre is goth/darkwave. Also, a lot of the music I own is in languages I somewhat understand (Japanese), or not at all (Hindi, German, Mandarin/Cantonese, etc). I am into the goth scene so I like makeup, just not the kind most women wear. :P

I am really so far from mainstream it's almost funny. I've always been weird, and a huge nerd, and I learned to stop fighting it a long time ago. Life is much happier that way. :)

[truthspeaker]

82. those are all superficial definitions of femininity anyway.

Here's the real test:

Do you expect your partner to read your mind, then get mad when he doesn't, then when he asks why you're mad you say "If you really loved me you wouldn't have to ask?"

If no, then you are, in fact, weird.

;)

[elfwitch]

83. NEVER!!!!!

Besides, he can pretty much read my mind. I'm pretty easy to figure out. not a whole lot of secrets. And we also kinda share the same brain ost days.

[elfwitch]

85. Mini-Me - an action figure

This is what I would look like if I was a Lego person.

[Taverner]

86. I'm weird, definitely

but nothing wrong with goo goo faces to babies ;)

[LanternWaste]

87. Damn! Damn! And Damn again!

Damn, damn damn! I leave North Texas because there's no liberal females there and and soon as I relocate, what do see...? Elfwitch is from Dallas (not as cool as Fort Worth, but still a definite high on the cool scale) and now I'm 1500 miles away.

Curious... what D&D PC RPG do you play? My pals and I do the NeverWinter Nights thing every other weekend... :hi:

[elfwitch]

88. Not FROM Dallas

FROM San Antonio.

Hubby and I used to run a game on-line called Elsewhere. If was 3rd ed. D&D. Kinda Old West meets Steam-punk. Very cool. Lotsa fun.

Got too time consuming and then we had our son come along. No time for much else now.

I got up to 9th level Elf Sorceress in about a year and a half playing this one game on-line.

[LanternWaste]

90. San Antonio? Much better...

San Antonio...ahh, much better. I was being polite in my first post. I think Dallasites are a bunch of self-serving, sanctimonious snobs with nothing to show for themselves but a tired, twenty-year old prim-time drama. :evilgrin: (runs and hides from Dallas area DU'ers)

Was the game you and hubby ran developed by yourselves? I've never heard of it....

[elfwitch]

92. Yep.

It was a die-20 game based mostly on 3rd edition D&D rules. He added a few extras, but for the most part it was 3rd edition.

Some of the characters on our website were from the game.

I don't like Dallas either. I completely agree with you r assessment of the average Dallas-ite.

[TXlib]

91. You sound normal.

[Skittles]

93. YES YOU ARE F***ING WEIRD

AND I DIDN'T EVEN READ YOUR POST. :o

[elfwitch]

94. From you I'll take it as a compliment...

from one weirdo to another.

[Skittles]

96. YOU KNOW IT ELFWITCH!!!!

:D

[SiouxJ]

95. Your "don't like" list is much like mine

except I enjoy cooking as long as I don't have to clean up. And I do wear make-up. Not a lot but a bit.

On this part we totally agree:

I won't/don't:
Go to baby showers (if I can avoid it without being rude)
Go to bridal showers (if I can avoid it without being rude)
Make goo goo faces at babies
Get excited about the new Avon catalog
Give girlie hugs and squeal
Get dressed up unless absolutely necessary
Talk about mushy "feelings"


Though I don't go ga ga for babies, if I see a dog, forget it! I tend to go overboard.

I enjoy a lot of things that aren't stereotypically female. I started very young by taking Shop instead of Home Ec. and pretty much continued from there. I still can't sew but I've gotten pretty good at faking it (I can sew on a button if I HAVE to). :-)