Nlighten1
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:10 AM
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Carbon dating - fact or fiction. |
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Can anyone point me to a website that can adequately debunk carbon dating?
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:12 AM
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1. If it's valid then any site that debunks it can't be adequate |
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:12 AM
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2. No, for the simple reason |
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that carbon dating is accurate....
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:12 AM
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Because such a site does not exist.
Carbon dating is a legitimate form of dating organic material, so long as you take completely normal precautions (contamination, etc.).
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:12 AM
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4. No, because carbon dating works. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-14-04 10:13 AM by truthspeaker
The sites that attempt to debunk it either knowlingly use contaminated samples or try to use carbon dating for materials older or younger than the age range it works for.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:13 AM
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5. why do you want to debunk it? I'm sure some anti-evolution sites would |
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:14 AM
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6. you're going to have trouble finding such debunkment.. |
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too many aspects of modern science and world view are based on carbon dating...if it's inaccurate, people don't want to know
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:33 AM
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14. That's not how science works |
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Every scientist's dream is to debunk a reigning theory and show everyone else how stupid they are.
If there were a problem with radioisotope dating, it would have been outed by now.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:35 AM
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16. Hello & welcome to DU |
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:55 AM
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22. Stephe Jay Gould wrote a very interesting article about nonreporting of |
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results that were negative.
It's called "Cordelia's Dilemma" and you can find it in the book Dinosaur in a Haystack.
Not to say that what you're saying is not true, just your statement provoked that thought in my head.
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aeolian
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Tue Sep-14-04 11:02 AM
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But that mostly pertains to people who are trying to protect their job, kiss up to the head of a department, protect their pet theory, or convince the FDA that the new wonder drug is perfectly safe.
Disproving radioisotope dating would completely overturn our understanding of the weak nuclear force. This, in turn, would net the disprover a lovely prize (possibly a Nobel), a tenured professorship, a fruit basket, yadda, yadda, yadda, why am I telling you what you already know?
(Good choice of reading material, might I add :) )
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:35 AM
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A lot of people didn't want to hear about quantum mechanics upsetting the beautiful classical laws of physics, but yet the truth won out. It always does in science.
If someone were able to prove carbon dating to be a farce, not only would they be lauded, they'd probably win a Nobel prize for overturning such a pillar of knowledge.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:18 AM
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Some creationists try to debunk it, but it remains a valid method of dating organic materials. However, there are problems in extablishing the exact calibration of the C-14 "clock", and factors that can make it more or less accurate.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:18 AM
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unless you'd like a website that debunks the general principles of physics and chemistry as we know them. so if that's what you're looking for, try the Center for Scientific Creation http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ2.html#wp1303390
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:21 AM
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9. I've never dated carbon |
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...no matter what TerryA says!
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:22 AM
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:40 AM
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17. Wow, this one doesn't even try to make sense. |
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I mean, most of them attempt to follow some sort of logical structure.
This one just...barfs words and pictures on to a page...
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:41 AM
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The Chickiverse is like this nightmare fantasy world where God secretly hates you, and everybody is a hyperbolic mess of a human being.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:43 AM
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19. I prefer Brick Tracts... |
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Tue Sep-14-04 11:09 AM
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25. Holy Crap! That's hysterical! |
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I'd like to encourage everyone to click on the "Second Circumcision" after visiting the above link. I laughed so hard, I farted.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:27 AM
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11. No, because it hasn't been debunked. |
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Errors can creep in if care is not taken (as with any procedure). And other dating methods work better in some situations.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:31 AM
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12. If you choose to disbelieve carbon dating, then you also have to |
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disbelieve nuclear reactors, atom bombs, radiation-therapy, and for that matter pretty much all of physics, and therefore chemistry.
The validity of carbon dating arises from these same physical laws.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:32 AM
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No.
Or, at least, I can't point you to any reputable, scientific, or even moderately educated site to that effect.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:53 AM
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20. It can't be "adequately debunked because it isn't bunk. But the "creation |
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science" folks certainly try. The way your question is phrased suggests that you have decided it is bunk and are looking for evidence to support your position. Yhat may work for a debate but I hope you realize it is not science.
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Tue Sep-14-04 10:55 AM
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You'll never be able too.
As far as the accuracy of carbon dating, it makes a helluva lot more sense than creation theory.
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Tue Sep-14-04 03:48 PM
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Thanks but I'm having a "debate" with a fellow cube dweller. He is a fundy and believes that carbon-dating is crap.
Maybe I should as for a link that explains carbon-dating instead?
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