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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:31 AM
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Well, we got a nice future Freeper here.
http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=15027&repository=0001_article

What a bitch. I'd like to see this woman try to live on a delivery person or waitress's paycheck without tips.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:32 AM
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1. I agree with her
and I delivered pizza for a living. You don't earn it, you don't get it.
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rot0r_head Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:35 AM
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2. Wow. She can steal material from a Tarantino flick
I guess that makes her fuckin' hilarious.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:43 AM
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3. When service is atrociously bad there should be no tip.
Though it is not always the deliverer's fault if the pizza is late. Sometimes the store over-burdens him with too many orders, or the chefs are slow and incompetent. In that case I give the benefit of the doubt to the deliverer and give him a 15% tip.

Once I left no tip to a waitress. She was a mean old bag who didn't speak more than 6 words to my friend and I. He and I were at a casual restauraunt and she spoke to us in mumbles the whole time. She neglected us repeatedly, not refilling out drinks, sending another server over to deliver the meals and refusing to come back to the table to gather up the empty plates. When my friend asked for ketchup, she blew him off. Yet we saw her being very actively involved with the other tables and doing her job as she was supposed to. It became evident to us that she thought we were two gay guys on a date. We were not, but her behavior was inexcusable.

My friend wanted to leave her no tip, but I disagreed. I left her a 1 cent. Stuck a penny right there on the table for her.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:44 AM
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5. I'd have reported her to boot! You don't get many bad servers but

when you do, the management should know about it.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:43 AM
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4. So would I. She sounds like a privileged little twit.

If restaurants raised their pay rate so that servers didn't need tips, no one would be eating out much because it would be too expensive. The tip should be added to the check so that people can't undertip or stiff their server.

If the pizza delivery guy was that late (an hour and a half, she claims), I'd have been dialing Domino's to ask what's up. Sometimes drivers do get lost or have other problems. And I'd have tipped if I thought the reason he was late was legit.

I don't tip for bad service and I also report bad service to the restaurant's manager. But I tip 20% for adequate service, more for really good service.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:46 AM
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6. Somebody ought to tell that young lady
that it's good karma to give the pizza delivery person a $2 tip.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:52 AM
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7. I agree with her too. I am sick to death of shit service and
people expecting tips. I am a good tipper, and can overlook many of the things that others reduce their tips over.

But she has a point.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:38 AM
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17. Delivery people are a little different than waitpeople.
The tip is in part for them bring the food to you.
If you don't want to pay the delivery person anything, pick it up yourself.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:19 AM
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8. She is:
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 02:22 AM by Book Lover
A) Right

B) Broke

and

C) a Bitch

If she thinks this is as bad as it gets, she has more than book learning before her...

on edit: She could have easily called Domino's to see what the hell was up.
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Knurled99 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:20 AM
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9. OMG... I HAD to write back... here's the reply
Yamanda:
Despite the fact that I am now very successful, I worked my way through college on the service side of life and know what it is like to face pompous bitches like yourself. How do you think the pizza delivery guy felt, not only as he tried to reach you to get inside your dorm but also as he trudged up the stairs to your presumably all-girl hall? You may have the blissful illusion that he was impressed by your Royal Stanford Student status but I would bet on the opposite. Receiving good service often requires a tacit agreement on the part of the consumer: to facilitate the delivery of the food. It is not the delivery man's fault that your dorm doesn't employ someone at the front desk on the weekends. It is not his responsiblity to jump fences or break windows so as to fill your wittle stomach.
Consider that the world does not revolve around you, as your parents undoubtedly did before they whisked you away to Stanford. Consider that minimum wage is not enough money to cover the delivery man's gas expenses and mileage on his car. Consider that minimum wage alone certainly won't cover his cell-phone bill, without which he would be unable to do his job (and for which his employer pays nothing.) Consider that, since he was working on the weekend, your hapless delivery driver could be attending the same school that you do and could be your boss someday!
Paying your own is a difficult thing, especially if you are a young college student trying to balance a low-wage job and financial-aid with some shitty service job where too many people think like you do. That delivery man would NEVER work where he does if not for the tips. You would have to get off your lazy (and I am guessing fat) ass and get it yourself! So realize that when you tip someone, you are THEN paying for the service. Not before. And remember that, even though you now couldn't fathom this happening with all of your glorious Stanford education, YOU TOO could someday be sucking up to some self-absorbed, self-righteous bitch that imagines YOU being put on this earth for her convenience. Even after you receive your illustrious degree.
Sincerely,
Bradley M. Bock

PS- You think stealing lines from a Tarentino flick makes you funny? Baaaah!
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:21 AM
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10. Sorry, I agree with her too
I'll leave 20-40% tips when I get good service, but I don't think twice
about leaving nothing if the service was bad... or 2 pennies if it really sucked.

A tip isn't part of my meal price, and if I leave one it's to recognize that the waiter/waitress did a good job... not that they simply did their job.



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Knurled99 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:37 AM
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11. Sheesh
I'd like to see you try it. In this day and age, employers expect an ungodly amount of "efficiency" out every employee. In other words, if you are doing a stellar job, you aren't taking on a heavy enough load.
I can see people not tipping someone who had a poor attitude... but the pizza guy apologised and told her why he was late- she didn't answer her phone and didn't come to let him in. I guaruntee you he's a regular person and not the James Bond or Hercules of pizza delivery. (This is a touchy subject for me... spent alot of time in restaurant hell!
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ND_Democrat Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:42 AM
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12. I also agree with her
Tipping is becoming out of control in this country. Everything you do now requires a tip. Restaurants should pay servers more than 4 bucks an hour and stop expecting their customers to pay it's employees wages.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:48 AM
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13. Welcome to DU, ND Democrat
Glad to have you aboard. :toast:

While I agree with you that restaurant employers should have to at least pay their employees minimum wage, the only places I have to tip is to restaurant employees. So I don't think tipping is becoming out of control. And like I said in an earlier post, I think tipping is good karma.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:53 AM
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14. Employers are depending on tips & avoiding increase in wages
I tip well when service is good. I can't remember the last time I didn't tip....but I find it sad to see a pathetic little cup with TIPS written on it next to the register at Dunkin Donuts. If service industry people were paid a little more maybe the constant outstretched hand would not be as much of a problem? :shrug:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:15 AM
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15. If the spoiled little twit can afford to go to Stanford, which
according to her e-mail address, she can, she can sure as hell afford to tip a guy that's making less than minimum wage without whining about it.

Fortunately, you have numerous people like me that "over tip" because it's not a whole lot of money to do so and I know it helps the kids out that are out hustling to make a buck. (I usually tip at least 20-25% on a pizza or other delivery).
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:41 AM
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16. I was going to post and say I agreed with her until
I reread the article and saw where she DID NOT answer her phone, and did not have anyone let the poor guy in. What a fucking bitch. I go to college, too, and I've done the whole dorm-pizza thing a zillion times. If you don't pick up your phone, that means you don't want the pizza too damn bad. You go down to the lobby and get it, or you get no pizza. End of story. I managed to walk down to the lobby, pay (and tip) the deliveryman, and carry the pizza back up to my room without any significant trauma suffered. Yeah, she's definitely a freeper in the making.

I agree that crap service deserves no tip, but in this instance the fault appears to lie solely with Miss Pampered Stanford Student. SO she gets no sympathy from me.
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