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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:41 AM
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Poll question: Let's bring back an old favorite: Whats your favorite Coltrane Album?
These just popped off my head - feel free to add to the other column!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:45 AM
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1. "A Love Supreme"
An astoundingly great album.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:46 AM
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2. Very possible the "perfect" album
No doubt a masterpiece of the highest order
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:52 AM
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3. John Coltrane and Johhny Hartman
1963. The Coltrane Quartet rarely recorded with vocalists, but Hartman was an exception.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:53 AM
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4. I don't like that one. Critics said that Trane was pressured - he always
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 08:54 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
said it was one of his favorites. I personally find it tepid. Its worth a spin but it hardly feels like Trane to me and I don't find Hartman to be a very inspired singer.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:53 AM
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5. John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman. n/t
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:54 AM
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6. Coltrane Plays the Blues
... sweeeeeet
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:55 AM
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7. you know, as pathetic a this sounds, with me being a culturally astute guy
and all... I don't think I've ever heard a single Coltrane album.

Can you recommend one?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:59 AM
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9. I usually recommend Blue Train for first timers
And its good to see you Big - haven't heard from you since Black Tuesday!

You hangin' in?
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:03 AM
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12. yeah... I'm okay
been busy with work, writing, and freeper sniping here on the boards. Trying not to get all pissed off over Black Tuesday too, so I've put my anger into my writing and into listening to lots and lots of Iron Maiden. Also trying to change my sleep patterns to something resembling a normal diurnal mammal so I get off the computer by 1AM instead of 4AM and make better use of my writing time between 10PM and 1AM.

Hows things with you my brother? How are you coping?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:08 AM
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13. Well - I initially was walking around like a car-bomb bystander - then
disbelief - then I started being a real jerk (more so than usual). The whole thing has made me feel even more that I want to fight for what is right in this world. Stephanie jumped up on Wednesday and said "That's it - I'm quitting my job and going back to the State Legislature and start working for change"

I have been looking back and seeing all the ways I could have done more or tried harde - not in a regretful way but in aa "redoubling of my efforts" kind of way.

I am committed to leaving this corporate job and going to NYC next fall where Steph is working with my Uncle to try an secure a job in the City Council and I am going to grad school to commit myself to my art. I am going to use my skills and talents for the good of our movement.

Other than that - I'm good! :)
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:22 AM
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17. it's funny, that week was good in many other ways
that I was able to enjoy, I took my wife and little boy to see The Incredibles, I helped out at the polls, the PS2 game Godzilla Save the Earth came out and I'd pre ordered it so had it the day it shipped... But the whole week was clouded over by the election, which isn't so unusual, but worse as so many DUers reverted to some pre-cro magnon forms and began visciously tearing into one another. It was like the candidate wars all over again...

A couple of cool other events happened that week outside of DU, my brother-in-law got his tax assessment and it went up over 10%. Boy was he pissed! AND a Bush voter, so I was able to explain that the 20 bucks he got from Bush's income tax cut just cost him a grand in property taxes. Then went on to explain unfunded mandates and stuff.

Next time he votes, he votes dem.

Then, Saturday night at a little restarant here in Londonderry I overheard an older man talking with his waitress about the election. He was so happy that Bush won and took great care to explain that the reason those "filthy Europeans don't like us" is because they are jealous etc... His waitress, a nice Greek lady, laughed and said, "don't talk about Europe, you've never been to Europe. You know nothing. America a young country, hell at 200 years old the Greeks controlled half the western world, developed democracy, create an urban social structure, developed science and medicine, and their work is still the cornerstone of what you Americans call democracy today. And that was 5000 years ago. So let me tell you that the reason those filthy Europeans don't like America is because you're arrogant and don't know anything... Have a nice night."

She slapped his check down on the table and walked away.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:24 AM
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18. Ha HA!!!!! That's the best thing I've heard all week!!!
You should start a thread about that!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:46 AM
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22. I would have had to tip her on my way out
just because... and told the manager she's the best waitress there.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:22 PM
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30. Also "Ballads" for Coltrane newbies.
Look into Miles Davis' "Stella by Starlight--the '58 Sessions."

It has Coltrane, Connonball, and Bill Evans in the band. The BEST ever "On Green Dolphin Street" and it was the peak of Miles career. sorry you Bitches Brew fans.

--IMM
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:15 PM
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36. I like that Green Dolphin st - but The BEST is Eric Dolphy's Outward Bound
IMO
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:23 PM
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37. There is a Coltrane Quartet "Dolphin" on an Impulse! anthology
which I haven't found on CD. (I sold all my vinyl a few years ago.)

Also I like versions I had by Oscar Peterson and Ahmad Jamal. Haven't seen those on CD either. Can't seriously debate which is "best." I have the Dolphy one too.

Interesting side note. I bought "Out to Lunch" when it came out, when along with "Shape of Jazz to Come" it was the guide post of the avant garde. Now I hear it on TV for some insurance company commercial. Funny how the society's ears get tuned in.

--IMM
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:40 PM
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38. Speaking of Ornette Coleman - I adore The Shape Of Jazz to Come
Lonely Woman is my favorite Ornette tune - so haunting - and an earworm par excellence

Oh - and I obviously being tongue-in-cheek when I say "best" :)
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:50 PM
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40. Yeah, I got you.
they're all so good.

--IMM
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:01 AM
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11. He went through some very different phases.
If your taste in jazz leans towards the more traditional, go with "My Favorite Things." The piano solo McCoy Tyner pulls off on the title track is, all by itself, worth whatever you pay for the record. And he was 19 at the time!

If you like it a little more "out," "A Love SUpreme" is widely considered a masterpiece (rightly so), and "Impressions," "Meditations" and "Live at the Village Vanguard" are all motherfuckers, too.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:10 AM
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15. You know - I love Favorite Things - but I think that its better to get
familiar with him before hearing it to appreciate just what he can do with a traditional show tune. You know - get a feel for his style to really appreciate it.

Have you heard his version of Greensleeves from Africa Brass?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:57 AM
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8. I voted for "A Love Supreme"
but might have voted for "Impressions" were it an option. And yeah, it's a transitional mish-mash of a record, but you just can't fuck with "India."
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:00 AM
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10. Hot DAMN I love that tune. I went a week replaying it!
:thumbsup:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:08 AM
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14. Sometime you should try
playing the "Impressions" version of "India" back-to-back with that really mean, dirty, and sad version of "Alabama" from the "Village Vangaurd" boxed set. It's, um, revealing.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:11 AM
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16. I know it well. That version of Alabama isn't sad- its downright haunting!
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:17 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
Dag! I will do that right now!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:25 AM
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19. Other - Jupiter Variations
He and his wife on that one, both "scrambling those eggs!"
The Professor
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:30 AM
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20. Have you heard Om?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:30 AM
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25. Yes I Have
You guys know me. The more oblique the better!
The Professor
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:53 PM
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31. Word
:)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:43 AM
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21. I know A Love Supreme is his masterpiece
but I have to go with Blue Train. I just LOVE his rendition of I'm Old Fashioned. Love it love it love it.

But after that, definitely A Love Supreme.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:58 AM
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23. Last New Years eve I sayed up after everone went to bed and sat by the
fire and listened almost trancelike to the whole Blue Train album twice!

Ahhhhhh!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:27 AM
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24. Sounds like a sublime way to welcome the new year
:)

Would be better with wine and aother person, though. Just sayin.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:55 PM
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33. We had done that all night!
:)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:53 AM
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26. "Best of John Coltrane" double LP
Because the live version of "My Favorite Things" is one of the most astounding pieces of music I've ever herd. McCoy is in rare form as is the drummer Jimmy Cobb.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:13 PM
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27. Oh great
Now there's something else I want to buy.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:15 PM
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28. i don't know if it ever made it to CD
I've got it on vinyl. I think this may have been called "The Best of John Coltrane on Atlantic" I cn check and get back to you if you're interested.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:59 PM
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35. You can get it on disc
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:48 PM
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39. I don't think that's the album I'm thinking of
The one I have has a photo of a white dove on it. I checked Allmusic.com and I think it's called: "His Greatest Years: the Best of John Coltrane" But they don't show the album cover.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:58 PM
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41. I'll have to seek it out
Damn the obsessive collector in me!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:17 PM
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29. Ellington Meets Coltrane
Also "Ballads"

Don't forget the great Prestige albums, perticularly the tenor duels with Sonny Rollins and Johnnie Griffin.

--IMM
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:54 PM
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32. Love them - as to Duke&Trane -In A Sentimental Mood is an ALL TIME
Classic!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:55 PM
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34. YYEEEESSSSSSSS!!!
--IMM
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