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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:13 AM
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Poll question: The Great Toilet Seat Gender War
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:15 AM
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1. Everybody Is Responsible For Their OWN Seat Setting... As Needed.
No matter where it was BEFORE you arrived, it's your own responsibility to adjust it to the proper position for WHATEVER your needs are after you arrive.
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Jack Schitt Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:22 AM
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7. Amen!
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:25 PM
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31. Hear, Hear!
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:16 AM
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2. Other: us mens pee an' poo on the ground outside
Leave commodes and such to the womenfolk
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:17 AM
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3. You can't win with women.
Seat up = They fall in (angry at you)

Seat + Lid down = They sit on lid, cold bottom (angry at you)

Seat down + bad aim = wet seat (angry at you)

Why is it ONLY MEN have to move the seat ? Women are somehow completely irresponsible ?
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:32 AM
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14. I marveled at that too
Then it was accidentally revealed in a Dear Abby column: women are supposed to be too dainty to touch something people's bottoms have touched.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:18 AM
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4. Both seats down because...
of germs getting sprayed up in the air when you flush! Put both seats down goddammit and THEN flush you dirty, dirty people!

(Also reason not to keep your toothbrush sitting on the countertop!)
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:27 AM
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11. This was actually debunked on Mythbusters
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 11:28 AM by nickinSTL
According to their tests, there aren't any more...fecal bacteria in the bathroom than any other part of a house/apartment.

(disclaimer: I realize that this was not a scientific study)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:32 AM
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15. Whaddya know!
I haven't seen that episode, but I do trust their methologies. I based that on another study that had been done, much more scientifically, that showed dispersion of water micro-droplets when a toilet is flushed. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:18 PM
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22. I did see that episode
And their methods appeared quite scientific. They had toothbrushes placed all over the bathroom, as well as all over other rooms of the house. After the allotted time, they swabbed the toothbrushes on petrie dishes and took them to a lab to have them analyzed. I believe it was the kitchen or the living room that produced the most fecal matter on the toothbrush.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:26 PM
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27. Huh? The Mythbuster Study Was Fully Scientific
Their approach was a well designed experiment that validated that the myth is busted.

BTW: I love that show.
The Professor
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:27 PM
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28. Why am I not surprised?
:yourock:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:26 PM
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32. Penn & Teller also did something similar
On their Bullshit show. Well actually they swabbed people's asses and had them tested in a lab, turns out they were cleaner than most people's hands.

I think they were debunking the need for those disposable seat covers you see in public restrooms. Personally I squat and thoroughly clean up after myself--there's some nasty ass people in this town.
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3rdParty Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:19 AM
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5. easy choice - both down.
since fecal matter has been shown to 'contaminate' items in the bathroom whenever the toilet is flushed because of an open lid - I choose to put both seats down, then flush. I do not want any 'crap' on my toothbrush!!!

One other bonus, you no longer get a ring around the toilet if you keep both down. (Not really sure why, but its true)
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:20 AM
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6. It's also good chi.
Damn that Feng Shui!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:27 AM
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10. I Think This Has Been Throroughly Debunked...
... but it's a good scare-tactic anyway. Kinda like going-blind and hair-groing-on-palms.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:28 AM
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12. also
snakes and rats who swim through your sewer system have a harder time getting out of the bowl with the lid down.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:25 PM
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26. I actually saw that
My elderly neighbor a couple years ago called me over to her house. Usually that meant I needed to fix something. She took me into the bathroom and said "look at this!" and lifted the toilet lid. Before I could freak I saw there was a drowned rat in the toilet. he HAD come up through the pipes and drowned in the bowl. I got a stick and took it out and put into into a trash bag. YUCK. Wet dead rat. ewwww


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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:27 PM
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33. actually
studies have shown that having the lid down do nothing to stop that. I've seens studies where toothbrushes were placed in sealed containers OUTSIDE of the bathroom, and STILL have fecal coliforms on them


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:23 AM
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8. what's a toilet?
.
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Citizen Jane Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:26 AM
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9. Lid up Seat down, but not right now.
My usual viewpoint on this, which my family probably indoctrinated into me and my husband now agrees with is that men use the seat up and down, women use the seat down and down, so, even if women have smaller bladders, it really does get used in the down position more (especially if your bowels are at all regular, LOL) in our family.

But, for me I think it depends on household usage! At my gay friends' houses it bothers me not a whit that the seat is almost always up because at their house, it gets used in that position most of the time, so I leave it up when I am done. Likewise, if husband and I are at a house where all or most of the inhabitants are women, the seat goes, decidedly, down.

The issue, however, is moot right now in our household because we have a toddler: both lids go down...which reminds me that I need to go buy some toilet-seat locks...
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:30 PM
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36. my problem with this is
that on average, men use the restroom more often (im just going off of personal experience). so, while the methods of using the restroom go in the woman's favor, the actual numbers go to the male. just my $.02


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:30 AM
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13. seat down - I can pee over it
that's our arrangement
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:33 AM
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16. I'm a woman and I don't care!
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 11:35 AM by SarahBelle
Am I the perfect woman? :P (maybe- hee hee!)
Actually no, I just have three boys and I'm used to always having to put the seat down. Heck, I'm just happy they all pee in the toilet now. I really don't know why women make such a huge deal about this. If men can lift it up when they need to go with making a big deal about it, why can't we put it down without making it some huge issue? It's not that complicated and there's about a zillion other important battles in terms of equality in male-female relationships.

However, both genders should put the lids down if there's poo for hygeine purposes. Definitely.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:36 AM
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17. Majority Rules
Number of Females / Males in a house.

If no majority, down.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:38 AM
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18. More gender generalizations
I'm a woman and I don't really give a damn where the seat is. I've never in my life sat on something without looking at it and if anyone is stupid enough to do so, they deserve what they get.

My hubby, on the other hand, is extremely anal (joke fully intended) about the toilet seat and has managed to train me over four years to keep BOTH lids down.

He also wipes out the bathroom sink after each use and makes the bed every morning. I meanwhile, happily toss my dirty laundry on the floor in a corner. So neither of us fit any stereotype.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:48 AM
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20. I have to put both seats down
Because the bathroom is our "money room" (my wife is into Feng Shui). That's the only reason why I leave it down.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:42 AM
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19. Advantage of a Three Holer
I suppose if I built a three holer. I could have one for each, problem solved.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:54 AM
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21. Both down...
...so that the dogs don't drink out of the bowl.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:18 PM
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23. I like them both down
It gives me a place to sit while I blow dry my hair! ;-)
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:22 PM
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24. you forgot to add "I pee in the sink"
what???
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:24 PM
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25. both down
It looks better.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:31 PM
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29. Both Down - Gotta Protect My Kitty
In addition to our yucky municipal water, for some reason there's a certain funk in my neighborhood. Can't let the dear drink unfiltered.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:22 PM
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30. as a woman I wouldn't mind putting the seat down IF
you guys could learn to aim! YUCKKKK! :puke:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:32 PM
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37. its not a question of aiming
without getting too disgusting, a quick loss in pressure will reduce the angle with which the stream hits, and very quickly. its pretty much impossible to not get SOME on; in any case, i always put the seat up anyway


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:27 PM
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34. Forget about that bullshit
How about people just WASH THEIR DAMN HANDS, YOU NASTY ASSES.

That is my biggest pet peeve EVER.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:50 PM
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39. That reminds me of an old "Far Side" cartoon
The giant lighted sign that flashed "DIDN"T WASH HANDS" when the one guy walked out of the public restroom! :D
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:30 PM
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35. When I met my future wife, she said one of the things she liked about me..
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:30 PM by KansDem
..was that I put both the toilet seat and lid down.

Little did I know that would be just about the only thing she liked about me...
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legally blonde Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:40 PM
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38. both down
Regardless of whether or not it's sanitary, I keep both down. My cat likes to stick his head in the toilet and drink from the bowl. Gross!
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