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Wed Dec-01-04 02:55 PM
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Is Terry Bradshaw retarded? |
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I don't ask to be mean. I'm just curious. :shrug:
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:56 PM
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Terry couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the 'c' and the 't.' I believe that...
On edit: But, I'm a lifelong BROWNS fan!!!
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Wed Dec-01-04 04:06 PM
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42. It was Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson |
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of the Dallas Cowboys who said that. I remember the letters differently, but you're probably right. I thought it was 'c' and 'a' and he still couldn't spell "cat."
Hollywood later went to the pen for drugs, but then landed on his feet and won millions from the Texas Lottery not long after he got out of the joint. AFAIK, he's a solid citizen again.
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:06 PM
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47. And he apologized to Bradshaw for the comment and said it wasn't true |
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on the Best Damn Sports show
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:56 PM
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:56 PM
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3. Could be all those sacks. |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:08 PM
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13. There's only so many times the head can be whacked |
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without there being some longterm damage done.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:11 PM
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17. Reminds me of something LBJ said about Gerald Ford: |
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"Jerry Ford's a nice guy, but he played football too many times without his helmet on."
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:16 PM
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50. And they had helmets back in his time |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:23 PM
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33. Yup...I still remember seeing |
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I think it was Joe "Turkey" Jones of the Cleveland Browns picking Bradshaw up and dropping him on his head. He had to have lost a few brain cells, just had to...:crazy:
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:13 PM
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49. I remember that well..lol |
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Of course we see it every Browns season here.
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:56 PM
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4. Wacky? Yes. Retarded? Definitely not. |
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A casual glance at his historical football stats will prove this. Being a Quarterback isn't being a brain surgeon but you can't be this good at it and be stupid. You just can't.
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:57 PM
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this made me laugh. :D
No, he's not. He's charmingly daffy... but not technically retarded.
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:57 PM
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I think bits of his brain must have come out with every hair he lost. He's a religious fanatic with about half a dozen divorces.
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:58 PM
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7. I saw him on TBN a couple of weeks ago and he was singing. |
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He was singing, "I got the lord in me, that's enough, that's enough for me."
My husband and I couldn't stop laughing.
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Wed Dec-01-04 02:58 PM
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8. real life Forrest Gump |
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remember who said that about Bradshaw? Can't recall..some fellow sportscaster
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:00 PM
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9. Terry Bradshaw was considered as a Rhodes Scholar |
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My stepfather told me that over the weekend. I think it has to do with a letter to US News or Time that I saw that said that Bush was his hero-it was signed Terry Bradshaw. Something tells me that my stepfather picked up part of the message on Fox News and link two completely different things together.
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:21 PM
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52. This must be how your stepfather got his brain cells mixed up on Bradshaw. |
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Terry Bradshaw made this statement:
I know I'm adding one more thing here, but how about Chad Pennington? Everyone wants to talk about how smart Peyton Manning is, but this kid was actually a finalist for being a Rhodes Scholar. Even I know that means Pennington is really smart. I was extremely impressed about how he managed his game. Sure, the Jets ran it well, but Pennington made all the plays to win the game.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:02 PM
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10. probably. still the greatest QB ever. |
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won 4 super bowls calling his own plays...y'hear that Joe Montana lovers?
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:05 PM
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11. A career 51.9% passer |
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Wouldn't call him the greatest, maybe hall of fame status but far from the greatest.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:09 PM
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14. I'm a rare bird. I judge on results. Call me crazy. (nt) |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:14 PM
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21. So what results are basing this on? |
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Not his accuaracy, I already got that down. He had 27,000+ passing yards which isn't bad but many others have more. TD to INT? He only threw 2 more TD passes then INTs. So I guess it is Super Bowl wins, based on that is Trent Dilfer a better QB then Marino because he has more SB wins?
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:19 PM
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29. 4 Super Bowls. Called his own plays. What more do you need? |
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Stats are for chumps and apologists. Trophies are for winners. How do I know? Find me one qb that wouldn't trade all their stats for 4 Super Bowl titles, AND the freedom and balls to call their own plays.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:24 PM
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35. Results only? Then Bradshaw is NOT better than Montana. |
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4-0 in Super Bowls for each. Bradshaw isn't better by your own definition. What more do you want?
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:30 PM
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38. Retard: read the statement before flying off the handle! |
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I have been saying over and over (and even in title of the thread you replied to) that he won 4 Super Bowls AND called his own plays.
THAT is the difference between Bradshaw and Montana. In my book, calling your own plays while being a champion makes you a better QB than one who gets them radioed in.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:35 PM
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40. So what? Maybe he couldn't tie his own shoes. |
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Your criterion of calling his own plays is purely arbitrary.
In my opinion, a team that has black as one of its uniform colors couldn't possibly produce the best QB of all. God meant it that way. If you disagree, then, by your own standards, you are a retard.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:46 PM
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41. You are not a retard because you disagree... |
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...you are a retard because you don't read threads before responding to them.
If you really want to argue that a qb who calls his own plays (and no, calling audibles is not the same thing) is on the same level (or below) as one who gets his orders fed to him by a coach, then fine.
To me, it's no comparison.
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:29 PM
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53. If you compared them under identical scenarios... |
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Bradshaw didn't have the luxury of having plays radioed in. If he did he might had been an even better qb.
Montana didn't have to make his own calls. And I wouldn't want the qb to make their own calls considering all of the other teams don't except when they deem necessary.
Unless they both played under the same conditions we couldn't know who would be better. Probably other factors would be important besides the qb.
How would today's receivers do if they didn't wear gloves? Runners with lighter and more protective pads?
How would teams do if all games were played outdoors? If Super Bowl games were played in the cold/snow?
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:33 PM
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Is Dilfer a better QB then Marino? I'm sure Marino would trade stats with Dilfer for a Super Bowl ring but does it mean Dilfer is better? He won behind a great defense, ironically so did Bradshaw. A number of today's QB could've won 4 rings with a great defense and have better stats then Bradshaw as well. Elway was put in a position many times where he called his own plays, and Peyton Manning often audibles to a play that results in a quick 6 points after seeing something he doesn't like in the defense. Those 2 I feel are far better then Bradshaw and could do what they've done on many other teams. Could Bradshaw have the same success with the 1970's Cardinals?
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:11 PM
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48. His accuaracy was also affected by what the defense was allowed to get |
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away with back then. The defensive backs were allowed to basically mug the recievers in the 70's, well except for the Raiders}(
Then again I am just making up excuses. His peers thought he was great and the Steelers lived on the deep pass.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:17 PM
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Dan Marino must be a zero, likewise Barry Bonds.
And despite your earlier comment, Bradshaw couldn't possibly be better than Montana because they have identical "results".
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:24 PM
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34. see: called his own plays (nt) |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:28 PM
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37. You said you go by results. Were you just kidding? |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:07 PM
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Great QB for his era, no doubt. But, he'd have trouble starting for a contending team these days.
Bradshaw is as dumb as a stump, but not retarded. He's something of an idiot savant with quarterbacking as his amazing skill.
BTW, I'm convinced that most football players fit this description, including most of today's QBs.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:11 PM
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16. no comparison. today's QBs are basically remote-controlled. |
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:09 PM
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Bradshaw rode the Steel Curtain's coat-tails. By your standards, Otto Graham, who won seven titles and played in ten title games in his ten seasons with the Cleveland Browns, was the greatest of all time.
Greatest QB is so subjective. Broncos fans will tell you that Elway was the greatest, but they're about the only ones.
I'm a Packers fan, but despite my inherent pro-Favre bias, I'll stick with Montana for the time being. :P
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:15 PM
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24. Did Montana call his own plays: yes or no? |
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I'll take your point about Otto Graham and modify my statement to say greatest modern NFL (ie Super Bowl era) QB ever.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:20 PM
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30. Definitely Otto-Montana was a product of the system |
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Walsh's system was simply pitch and catch and toss the ball over the line of scrimmage to get the ball carrier into the open field. As much I thought he was an arrogant a** it was a good simple system and it worked. Montana didn't bring anything special to the team and neither did Rice-they both benefitted from fantastic planning. Bradshaw didn't enjoy such and advantage but he did have a great team around him.
Basically Otto was the best ever.......with Kosar a close second (completely objective assessment there at the end).
Oh and Elway is a horse faced pigeon toed Republican wife beater.
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Wed Dec-01-04 05:01 PM
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45. Plus, Elway had a 79.9 career passer rating |
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Highly mediocre. Favre is 17 games away from passing Elway's career win total, the only meaningful statistic Elway has. Favre could potential eclipse that mark next season (difficult, but not impossible).
Bart Starr won five NFL championships in just the decade prior to Bradshaw's four, including the first two Super Bowls. But most people would argue that Lombardi deserved the credit for those. Same holds for Bradshaw; Chuck Noll deserved the credit for those Super Bowl wins.
And yeah, you can argue the same for Montana and Walsh. So you come back to statistics, in which case it's Dan Marino by any standard.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:14 PM
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20. That's SO Funny! Thanks for making my day! |
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Greatest! Ha-ha-ha! Better than Montana! Hilarious!!!!
You need to do stand-up!
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:11 PM
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18. No - Not By a Long Shot |
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The mentally challenged can be educated to become useful citizens. Terry Bradshaw cannot.
:-)
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:13 PM
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I read that somewhere that he has been in therapy for a while and is on meds for depression.
who woulda thunk it!
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:15 PM
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25. So THAT explains why he's doing those Hooters commercials! |
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And I thought it was just because he's a pig!
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:17 PM
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27. oh he's a pig all right |
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the way he ogles all over the little nymph they have on the nfl fox pregame show. Pathetic!
I am not defending him, he's a creep but I think he acts so looney cuz he really is on meds!
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:20 PM
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31. I always thought he acted looney--for about 20 years now... |
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...haven't those meds kicked in yet?
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:14 PM
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He had just had a few too many concussions.
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:14 PM
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23. He has manic depression |
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He is not as dumb as he pretends, he makes alot of money playing that character
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:16 PM
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26. so Jessica Simpson tutored under him? |
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now that would be a funny reality show
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Wed Dec-01-04 03:25 PM
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36. He did show himself to be a class act, however, |
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when he inducted Mike Webster into the Hall of Fame several years back. Webby had fallen on some hard times, and Bradshaw mended fences with all his former Steeler brethren in his induction speech.
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Wed Dec-01-04 04:07 PM
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43. I love Terry. He is one of the few reasons I tolerate FOX in my house |
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Wed Dec-01-04 04:31 PM
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QB's who don't call their own plays are lame. With the kind of recievers he had I could win a superbowl. He couldn't carry Johnny U's jock strap.
Satisfied?
on edit: looks like I stand corrected per calling plays. Guess I'm just a pissed off ex-Baltimore Colts ex-football fan. MY bad.
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Wed Dec-01-04 05:21 PM
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46. Can I safely assume.... |
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...that you're not a fan of Peyton Manning, then? :P
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Wed Dec-01-04 06:17 PM
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51. Bradshaw and Collingsworth were smoking bongs before the pre game |
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shows. At least it appeared that way to me. Pretty goofy, both of them.
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