To the people who are too *&(@^$# lazy to put your shopping carts away -

[Rabrrrrrr]

You make me sick, you lazy inconsiderate fuck. What is it with you assholes? Why don't you just go kill yourselves? You obviously serve no real purpose in this world, and there's already too many people. Fuck you.

[Scrooge]

1. I hate that!!

And how do you really feel about those people? Seriously.. it is soooo rude!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Thanks will start doing this to annoy my local

Republican business, flame me now, please, with groceries too....

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. Locking

flamebait

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. LOL!

You made me laugh, darn you.

:evilgrin:

[Bunny]

4. So, let me see if I've got this straight.

You don't like it when people don't put their carts back?

:evilgrin:

[Ian David]

5. Excellent post

I love the picture of the M&Ms giving the middle finger.

Do they sell it on a t-shirt at Walmart?

[Liberal Veteran]

7. Insiderate? Is that a new word?

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. Heh heh - thanks

Fixed it. :P

[YellowRubberDuckie]

9. I agree 100%...

:hug: Everything will be ok though.
Duckie

[Ramsey]

10. At my grocery store

The people who get pissed off because you don't take your cart back to the front of the store are far outnumbered by those who get really pissed off if you do, because they need your parking space RIGHT NOW!!!!

Seriously, I've had people yell at me: "Don't take that damn cart back, get the hell out of that parking space and I'll take the damn cart". (OK, most are more polite than that, but that's the upshot of the sentiment.)

My grocery doesn't have very many parking spaces you see, and it's in downtown Philly, so there's nowhere else to park either.

[donheld]

11. Rabrrrrrr got some new toys?

they're cute

[mr_hat]

12. They're not lazy. They're just better than you.

[motely36]

One of my biggest pet peeves about going shopping

[MissMillie]

72. Me too

There's never anywhere to park because all the shopping carts are in the parking spots.

[FuzzySlippers]

13. That's part of the bag boy's job.

[motely36]

14. No...the bag boys job is to bring the carts back in from the corral

I believe...

[mondo joe]

16. It's called a corral?

Learn something new every day at DU.

[motely36]

17. I have learned so much dy coming to DU

Like why Vertigo starts off 1, 2, 3, 14

[babylonsister]

22. Missed that thread; why? nt

[motely36]

25. Cause they used the same producer for their

1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 14th (Current) Album! Isn't that cool. Sorry I don;t remember the name

[babylonsister]

32. Thanks! nt

[Maddy McCall]

125. No, that's what Walmart wants you to think, which is why I shop at...

locally owned grocers, where the bagboy does his job of taking your groceries to your car, putting them in the car, and returning to the store with the buggy.

That's how service always has been and how it should be now, everywhere.

[FuzzySlippers]

26. I was only talking about not putting the cart away when you

leave it at the end of the checkout lane. I hope no one thought I was so inconsiderate as to advocate leaving it stranded in the parking lot.

[ohiosmith]

15. But wait,....if they put their own cart away you wouldn't have a job.

:evilgrin:

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. I used to work in a grocery store, and the asshole filth who were too

lazy to put their carts away always pissed me off. Mostly because it shows what insensitive useless fucks they really are, that they think they're so goddamnned high and mighty they can leave out in the wind or rain, and then either a bag boy (like me) out on cart duty has to run like hell to keep it from hitting someone else's car, or else we have to watch as it hits someone else's car, and then the store has to pay to fix their paint.

That's the bullshit part of it. Fuck whether it's about me going for it - it's that these useless shitbagging fucknobs think it's okay to leave a dangerous flying hunk of metal sitting around, just waiting to be blasted into someone else's car.

And you can bet that if one of those braindead self-absorbed shiteating donkeyrapers had their car hit with a cart, they'd go fuckin' ballistic.

useless goddamn lazy fucking fucks.

[Liberaltarian]

40. sounds like someone was too lazy to do their job.

it's not the customer's responsibility to put carts in a corral or anywhere else.

why not do what some stores have done in chicago- put fencing up that allows people to walk thru easily, but dosn't allow carts into the parking lot. IKEA does it too.

and generally speaking- business people who consider their customers to be "shitbagging fucknobs" are probably in the wrong field.

[skygazer]

63. I must respond to this

I work in a grocery store and I assure you it has nothing to do with people being too lazy to do their job, which incidentally is a pretty fucking snotty thing to say.

At my store, we ask every single customer who has two or more bags of groceries if they'd like help out to their car. If they're too fucking lazy to push their cart to the collection corral rather than leave it in the middle of the parking lot or in a space so that no one else can use it, then they ought to avail themselves of that service.

But no - there's a whole lot of them who airily dismiss the offer but then leave their cart right in the fucking way. So who's lazy here? The bagger (not "bag boy" - we've got plenty of female baggers, thank you very much) who has bagged all their crap and offered to give them a hand or the customer who has probably cursed themselves while looking for a space and finding them all blocked by abandoned carts?

What are we supposed to do? Post someone out in the parking lot to chase down the carts all day? You think we should not allow carts in the parking lot? How are people supposed to get $400 worth of groceries to their car? Why do you think the corrals are there? Jesus! And people wonder why retail workers are cranky! It's from dealing with the moronic public!

[Rabrrrrrr]

64. Nicely said

:-)

And my grocery actually DID post baggers out in the parking lot. I hated cart duty, especially in the rain and the rally hot summer days.

[akwapez]

90. they only decline the help out so they don't have to tip.

[skygazer]

95. We don't allow tipping at our store

And I don't know any that do. I've never tipped a bagger - never even thought of it. Besides, that's a lame excuse. They're too cheap to tip and too lazy to take care of their cart. Yup, sounds like my clientele all right.

[Left Is Write]

31. Not necessarily. Where I shop for groceries, the baggers

have plenty to do. They only collect carts during a lull or when they have brought a customer's groceries out to the car. They would have jobs even if everyone were considerate enough to put their own carts in the cart return.

And at places like Target, there isn't a job specifically for collecting carts. It's a secondary duty.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

19. It should piss a lot of people off....

It's gotta shorten the lifespan of carts, since they get banged up in the parking lot; and that means higher grocery prices for everybody.

[Rabrrrrrr]

20. And it means goddamned damaged CARS

that the store has to pay to repair, and it also means wasted hours on behalf of the car owners dealing with the fuckin' scratches and getting it repainted and shit.

All because some irrelevant lazy fuck can't be bothered to spend 10 seconds to walk fourteen fucking feet and put their cart away like they're supposed to. If you're that fucking lazy or self-absorbed, use the fuckin' drive up, you monkey-licking lazy fuck.

[Liberaltarian]

41. anybody who brings there car into a parking lot has to expect some dings..

it's the nature of the beast.

btw- i haven't seen a car yet that lasts forever.

[fleabert]

21. you must love me then,

I always try to take two back, my own and if I find one along the way. (I have rarely not found another)

It's never even out of my way, there are so many assholes who don't do it. I have even had people ask me why I do it, my response is 'it's a nice thing to do, and it's not difficult.' The baggers always say Thank You.

I am working towards sainthood.

[Left Is Write]

30. Heee! Me too!

Working towards sainthood, I mean. The other day at Target, there were a bunch of cards all jammed up every which way near the cart return, spilling out and blocking one parking space. As I was returning my own cart, I lined all those carts up within one another and put them in two rows in the cart return. Took me all of about two minutes.

[lefty_WOHM]

36. I do that, too

Line the carts up in the corral, that is, if they're all askew. But I don't consider it working toward sainthood. I think it's another manifestation of my anal-retentive personality :silly:

[Left Is Write]

37. Hmmm....

Like straightening, buttoning, and zipping the merchandise on racks at stores you don't work for?

About 12 years ago, I was picking up some extra cash doing seasonal work at Wilson's Leather. All the coats were to be hung neatly in size order, buttoned and/or zipped. Straightening racks up after rushes of customers was standard practice.

After the holidays, I was visiting in the store, and out of habit started zipping and straightening. The friend I was with said, "Cath? You don't work here anymore."

I still can't seem to help myself.

[fleabert]

47. oh god. you don't want to go to a theme park with me!

I worked at one for 6 years and my dh still does, so I cannot walk around without picking up trash. Friends get embarassed and guests look at me funny. I can't help it. I sometimes do it at the mall without thinking.

'don't pass it up, pick it up!'

[fleabert]

49. well of course it's anal retentive, but that'll get you sainthood!

OCD makes things happen for me!

[fleabert]

48. think if everyone did that!

the world would look so nice and neat!

:toast:

[kat21]

23. Okay, I am guilty of this -

but only when I'm at a market that has very few cart return slots. Some markets I go to are in a big shopping complex and I'm the kind of person who doesn't have to have a space near the door. I usually park in an area where there are no cart returns but I do find a safe spot to leave my cart and if there's another cart close by, I at least try to leave my cart next to it. Will you ever forgive me?

I do a lot of other nice things, really I do. For example, I was driving home from work one day and I was caught in traffic when I noticed some guy digging in his pockets for change before the traffic officer got up to his car, I rolled down my window and threw him a quarter.

[lolly]

35. OK, Me Too

90% of the time, I put it away (if I can find the cart-holder thingy), but when I had toddlers/infants with me, I wasn't going to leave them alone in the car while I looked around for the cart holder.

So go ahead, flame me. It's been a while, and I'm getting cold anyway. :scared:

[tjdee]

43. This was my issue.

Though, most times I put my groceries into the car, then took the kiddo and the cart to the corral, and then left. But sometimes, especially in the winter, after working all day, shopping with a toddler, and looking forward to getting home, taking all the bags in, getting the toddler in the house and settled... sometimes it was just a relief to leave the cart instead of walking it all the way down to the corral...

Now I just try to go without the kiddo and don't buy so much at a time. I also try to park near the corral.

[Phentex]

61. so aska manager or other employee

to help you with the cart. It's not that hard.

You don't get a pass because you have kids.

[Midlodemocrat]

68. Sorry, you are wrong

A child left alone in a car is a crime, not to mention unsafe. The cart left in the parking lot is simply an annoyance. I do put the cart away, but I didn't when I had little ones, and I am not sorry that I didn't.

[Phentex]

70. Why didn't you ask for help?

Have you ever been refused help by a manager? I doubt it or you wouldn't be shopping there.

You get no laziness pass.

[Midlodemocrat]

75. Because when you have a child

who needs to eat and the manager is nowhere in sight, you need to leave pronto. Obviously, you don't have kids, or you would understand that sometimes a child's needs come before your own efforts.

[Phentex]

81. I have kids! I shop with kids! BUT I am teaching

my kids to be considerate of others. See, people like you will always find an excuse: tired kids (noooo, no one else ever had tired kids, right?) No manager in sight (but I betcha could ask for price check, right?) Of course, the parking lot will be FULL of people shopping at the exact moment no manager is on duty, right?

Leave your kids at home. Or ask for help at the store. Or haul one kid on your back and one on either leg while you push the cart miles and miles from your car to the cart corral.

[Midlodemocrat]

82. You know what. Go to hell.

You have no right to judge me or my life. Fuck you.

[Phentex]

83. I don't believe in hell and I'm sorry you are upset

at your own selfish behavior. Truth hurts sometimes.

Fact is, I drive an old car. It has lots of dings and I couldn't care less about another. I just don't like when people make excuses.

[Midlodemocrat]

84. Like I said, fuck you.

Sorry you drive an old car, I don't.

[Phentex]

85. You should avoid threads that will get you this upset.

Not good for the soul.

[Midlodemocrat]

86. What I should avoid

are judgmental assholes like you. Ignore.

[Phentex]

87. Buh bye now. Have a nice day!

:)

I notice you didn't say this to all the others in this thread. Who is judging?

[Rabrrrrrr]

88. Nice flame war!

No wonder I had to open the doors and windows. Which, truly, I just did before coming back to this thread.

:-)

[Phentex]

89. I'm not worked up about it!...

but I guess this means I'm not a virgin anymore. :)

[lolly]

114. Thanks!

I assume that means you're offering to babysit for me--for free-whenever I need to go shopping!! On a moment's notice! wow.

[DS1]

94. Haha fuck you

If your kids are close to starving to death in a goddamn parking lot you suck as a parent and should give them up asap, fucker

[Midlodemocrat]

96. As a man

you have no idea what it is like to breast feed a child. You have no concept of their schedule or their needs. So fuck you asshole.

[DS1]

97. As a man, I have no idea how you can find yourself

so utterly incapable of scheduling your life around not having every trip to the supermarket a life and death situation.

So fuck you, your shitty little kids, and the SUV you drove in with.

[Midlodemocrat]

98. It isn't

you stupid fuck. I was merely pointing out that judging people, as you have done, is a stupid thing to do because lots of people are juggling many, different things. You would know that if you weren't a whining little baby. Oh, and I don't drive an SUV you worthless prick.

[DS1]

99. Blow it out your self-inflated asshole you stupid bitch

on edit : Nobody ASKED you to have kids and burden the rest of us with their constant whining, oh wait, that's YOU whining about how you suddenly deserve special treatment.

Same goes for the idiot that knocked you up in the first place.

[Midlodemocrat]

100. What are you 15? Grow up.

[Midlodemocrat]

101. I never said I deserved special treatment

...I was only stating that people like you shouldn't be that judgmental. You have no clue...and for what it is worth, my kids and their generation will be taking care of you in your old age. So choke on that.

[Rabrrrrrr]

103. Yes, you did say that you did deserve special treatment

Or at least implied it heavily.

Especially this line: "The cart left in the parking lot is simply an annoyance. I do put the cart away, but I didn't when I had little ones, and I am not sorry that I didn't."

And this one: "Because when you have a child who needs to eat and the manager is nowhere in sight, you need to leave pronto."

Yeah, those ten seconds you lose returning the cart are critical. Critical, I tell you. Critical.

If a child were truly that close to death, I'd happily scratch my own car - on all sides - if that would save the life. I'm not willing to scratch my car, or risk someone getting into an accident with a cart, for a child that is nowhere near dying.

[Midlodemocrat]

104. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong

A screaming child is a real problem. Where I live when my kids were little, it was a 30 minute drive to and from the store. Husband always traveled, so I had to bring them. Inevitably, one of them would need to eat and start to cry. I am simply pointing out that although you seem to have broadbrushed everyone who does this as lazy, sometimes there are other reasons. If I see a bag boy, or whoever coming towards me, I will give him the cart rather than return it. It depends what station you are at in your life. Just because you can't project yourself into that situation doesn't make the person lazy. Lots of people have a lot on their plates and I think most people are just doing the best they can.

on edit: I don't think you intentionally meant to judge everyone, but it seems that there is a lot of judgmental crap going on at DU lately. No one seems willing to see the other person's side. There are always two sides to a situation, no matter where you sit.

[Rabrrrrrr]

106. And I'm just pointing out that, unless your child would truly have died

had he/she waited the ten seconds it would take you to put your cart somewhere where it wouldn't cost the store a few hundred dollars, thus increasing the cost of groceries for everyone, that you are, indeed, claiming that you deserve special priveleges.

I agree with the two sides to every issue idea you mention - but, I will also say, that there are times when there are not two sides, and there is only one side (and please forgive my constant use of the passive voice in this post; it's awful bad writing, I know, and I apologize). Sometimes, no matter how much we think that we "deserve" some kind of "special treatment", the truth is, we're just being selfish.

Every problem has a solution. Sometimes, that solution involves compromise that is never perfect for anyone involved, but even so, it might be necessary.

Speaing personally, I just couldn't imagine thinking to myself "My right to do what I want, right now, is way, way, way, way more important than the right of someone else not to have their car's paint job scratched, or the right of someone not to have use of a parking space, or the right of everyone who shops in this store not to have their prices increased because of cart damage insurance costs".

I know a lot of people like to think that "Hey - this is a company; they're swimming in cash. Who fucking cares if they make some payouts due to cart damage? Fuck 'em, they have the money, they have insurance for it, and I can't waste my time". And I find it sad that those people either totally refuse to acknowledge, or perhaps are too fucking dumb to acknowledge, that every payout increases the costs of goods at that store.

Perhaps you don't know it, but the more claims a person, or a company, has, the more their insurance goes up; and the more their insurance goes up, the more the prices of goods go up.

Why not just put the goddamn cart away? It takes ten seconds, tops.

[Midlodemocrat]

109. But what you are not understanding,

...and as a man I wouldn't expect you to, is that a nursing mother has a physical response to her crying child. Waiting even a little bit longer can result in a very soaked shirt, or milk that won't re-let down when the child wants to eat. Sorry to be so graphic, but I don't think that not putting a shopping cart away is an arrestable offense. There are always two sides. Always.

[skygazer]

110. I have three kids

I've nursed. Two of my kids are only 17 months apart. The only time I ever remember being in a situation when I didn't have a few seconds to put a cart away or some other courteous move was when my youngest daughter cut her thumb open and had to be rushed to the hospital.

You're being overly dramatic here. Your kid is not going to starve because you put your cart back, your milk is not going to dry up because of an extra ten seconds and if it's been long enough between feedings for your shirt to get soaked in ten seconds, it's going to be soaked anyway.

Oh, and "bagboy" is a rather offensive too - there are plenty of female baggers out there.

You're using all these excuses as rationales for not doing something that is simply a matter of common courtesy. If you don't want to do it because you want to get your kids home, admit it but don't act like it's because of some sort of major crisis situation. It's not. It's because you don't want to take the time.

[Midlodemocrat]

112. Dear me,

how shall I put this? I was telling the original poster that sometimes situations didn't merit taking the time. There are always two sides to every situation. Where I live, stores were 30 minutes away, each way, and sometimes the situation didn't warrant it. Some are inconsiderate, but I am not one of them. And frankly, the judgmental crap that is going on on DU lately makes us seem Republican.

[skygazer]

116. I understood what you were saying

I simply disagree with it. I work at a grocery store, I have kids and I've had my car dinged by carts that were left loose in a lot. To me, that gives me a lot of insight on the situation.

"Sometimes situations don't merit taking the time." What does that mean? That you only need to be considerate if it's convenient for you? I lived quite far away from stores too when my kids were growing up - many people do. Why does that give them a pass on consideration for others?

"Some are inconsiderate but I am not one of them." Well, I doubt most inconsiderate people realize how inconsiderate they are. I don't know you or know if you are or not - I'm simply pointing out that your logic in this seems flawed to me.

Nor am I trying to be judgmental. But you are using examples that I don't think warrant your being given a pass on common courtesy. Having been in a similar situation when my children were small, they seem rather flimsy. If this offends you, I'm sorry.

[Midlodemocrat]

118. And I disagree with you

Different people have different situations. You don't have the right to judge. I think you are offended because this affects you on a personal level. I always put my cart away, but when my babies were babies, sometimes I didn't. My car has been dinged before, many times and it is new, but I have always felt that that was the price you pay to take it out in public. If you keep it in the garage, it will never get dinged. And I don't know of one person who has ever sued a store because their car got damaged in a parking lot.

[skygazer]

119. Good heavens, stop being so sensitive

As I said before, I'm not trying to judge you. Nor am I offended. I just find it discourteous when people don't put their cart in the corral that has been provided. Certainly I notice it more because I work at a store. And I am differing with you on the point that having small children somehow gives you a pass on being courteous. If that is somehow judgmental then I guess disagreeing with a person has now become judgmental. My understanding of the term was somewhat different.

Anyway, no hard feelings here - simply making a statement of opinion. Have fun at Costco. Don't forget to put your cart away! :hi: (that's a lighthearted joke, BTW)

[Midlodemocrat]

124. Well, I guess when

a person calls you overly dramatic, or that you are making up excuses, that is not being judgmental? Sorry, but it is. I was simply pointing out that different people are in different stations in their lives and gathering up the cart by the employee of the store is not that big of a deal. As a matter of fact, here at our Target, my friend's son has that very and only job. He gathers up the carts and brings them in.

[Rabrrrrrr]

122. So, now your claiming special priveleges again

"My shirt might get wet" or "baby might be hungry" or blah blah blah.

And maybe you don't know anyone who sued a store because their car got damanged - and I have to say, neither do I - but I=if you would bother listening to some of the people here who worked/work in stores, you'd realize that people DO INDEED expect a store to pay for the damage to their cars in the parking lot.

And 99% of the time, that damage is caused by inconsiderate fucks who think they are more special than others, whose needs are more important than the needs of the guy who was in a hurry and now has to deal with calling his insurance agent and hassling with the grocery store and putzing around going to an auto shop to get the dent and the scratch fixed from the cart that you didn't think you were "required" to put away because you're "special".

[Rabrrrrrr]

102. Wow - that was a REALLY good flame war!

:nuke:

:wow:

Don't be gettin' my thread locked...

:hi:

[annabanana]

71. are you out in the country?

Where I am we're lucky to have enough cashiers on duty to save us from 1/2 hour wait just to check-out.....

managers? they really do that kind of thing where you are?

[Phentex]

73. I'm in the city of Atlanta...

could just be that southern hospitality thing going on.

I have kids too.

[lolly]

113. Oh, get real.

Sure, I'll ask the manager at Target (when I can find him--I'll have to get the checker to call him--that might take 10 -15 mins) to pull somebody off of other duties to follow me out to the car and take my cart back. This is SO much easier on the store and the workers then just sending somebody out every 30 mins (at their own convenience, rather than mine) to round up carts.

[ClintonTyree]

24. Eat shit and die...................

what gives you the right to lump ALL people into one tidy package? I'm handicapped, if I don't take a cart back and mess up your boring, trivial little life, excuse me asshole.
Get a life!

[Rabrrrrrr]

27. There are options that are better than leaving something

that could very well be blown into another car and/or be blown into the path of another car.

I've watched carts, on windy days, be blown across ten rows of parking spaces (not ten spaces, but ten ROWS of spaces).

Maybe I'm just too responsible, but I don't want my car hit and scratched by someone's cart (or my own cart); so I assume others don't want to be hit with mine. So I put 'em away.

Leaving them out just costs everyone - either the baggers have to work more bringing them in, or, most likely, the grocery store has to keep paying out to repaint people's cars. You might not believe it, but the grocery store I worked at paid out a lot of money to people. And we always had at least two baggers in the parking lot all the time. Sometimes we had four. In the real busy times, we went up to six. And cars still got hit with carts.

[Liberaltarian]

39. look at all the economic good that comes from leaving them out!

the guys at earl scheib can continue to put food on their families, as can the mechanics, and the guys at the parts counter, and on and on and on.
the cart thing is just another part of the cost of being in the grocery/discount retail business- that doesn't mean you should put the onus on your customers.

has anyone evre considered finding a way to make carts out of Nerf?

[miss_kitty]

46. the new excuse for lazy

'I'm helping a guy keep his job'. And driving up the cost that guy and everyone else pays for the goods.

Thanks

[Liberaltarian]

53. you're welcome...glad to help!

If the stores don't want to pay an employee to gather carts, they should do what IKEA does- put up a fence that prevents customers from taking carts into the parking lot in the first place.

problem solved.

BUT- if the store is going to allow shopping carts ino the parking lot- it is THEIR responsibility to gather them up, and THEIR responsibility to pay for the damage from loose carts.

[miss_kitty]

105. No it's not

They claim no responsibility for damages done to vehicles in their lots.

You are just acting lazy, and claiming it as a good deed. Your claim does not turn it into a good deed. Your action (or inaction, as the case may be) is the act of a lazy equivocator.

[miss_kitty]

45. I'm disabled too

and having to go AROUND a clusterfuck of unreturned shopping carts sucks.

If you are too feeble to get the gd cart back, the store will assist you.

If you are handicapped, I would imagine you'd be be parking in handicapped parking. You are so close to where they belong. And where you end up leaving them, fucks with the next disabled person who comes along.

thanks loads, thoughtless.:grr: :nuke: :grr:

[DS1]

57. Ahh fuck you - you got it out there full, you can take it back empty

:eyes:

I think I'll park in your spot today.

[ProfessorGAC]

78. You Better Not!

My rant about people in handicapped spots today has me on the look out for abusers. Don't make me cove over there.
The Professor

[DS1]

93. Relax

I want to, but I won't. But I might just take the "Cars with Children" spot. Because that's an entirely self-inflicated disease.

[Left Is Write]

28. What irritates me is when people can't be bothered

to put their carts away when they are RIGHT NEXT TO the cart return!

[Rabrrrrrr]

29. Yes! Totally inexcusable.

Unless they were going to put the cart away, but were hit with a heart attack or stroke or immediate diarrhea, there's no reason for it.

Life in this country has become too convenient, that too many are getting lazy even about stuff that doesn't reequire any effort.

[Phentex]

60. and I've heard all the excuses about shopping with kids...

and they don't want to leave the kids in the car to return the cart. WELL I've never heard a manager refuse to help someone with their cart if you ask. Never. So why bother schlepping your groceries and kids and the cart by yourself and EXCUSING yourself from returning the cart when all it takes is asking someone to help you?

I'm with you, Rabrrrrr. People have gotten too lazy.

[Rabrrrrrr]

62. Most have drive up loading, too

Not all stores, but at least most grocery stores do.

And any other store, like target or Shopko or whatever, will gladly help people take stuff to their car.

[annabanana]

76. drive-up loading?

let me venture a guess........
You are nowhere near the NY Metro region, are you?

[Phentex]

66. I have actually said

"Here, let me get that for you!"

(and then muttered "dimwit" under my breath!)

[SOteric]

33. And it doesn't occur

to you that this is perhaps an over-the-top response to the casual approach to shopping cart maintenance?

Here sweetie, suck one down:

Many things in life are worth getting sufficiently incensed to cut a few years off one's longevity and risk shooting an aneurysm. But possibly not shopping carts.

[Rabrrrrrr]

34. Thanks, O Lovely One!

Sorry, but I had my car damn near hit today. But the most infuriating thing for me, and this applies everywhere, is seeing/watching people being willingly uncaring and unsympathetic and apathetic to the ramifications of their actions on other people.

Thanks for the Martini! I'm feeling better, knowing you are concerned.

Cheers!

[Liberaltarian]

38. leaving carts in the parking lot- job security for the guy who gets them..

i leave my cart where i do out of concern for that person's paycheck.

cold-hearted pricks can go ahead and put them away themselves if they want, but I'M not going to be responsible for someone losing a job...

[cheezus]

42. fuck you too, buddy

[guitar man]

44. We have a new chain of stores here

Aldi Foods, which has come up with an interesting solution to this problem. The carts are chained together in the corral in front of the store. There is a coin slot on the locking mechanism where the chains lock into each cart, and you have to stick a quarter into the slot to unlock the cart. When you're done and put the cart back, you get your quarter back.

As a result, there are never any loose carts in the parking lot. If the shoppers don't care to get their quarter back, somebody will come along and put the carts away to get the quarters. Best idea I've seen so far. And their prices for food simply can't be beat.

[Threedifferentones]

50. Ya that pisses me off too

I used to work at a grocery store and that was really annoying.


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[Threedifferentones]

51. If your grocery store has corrals then it is YOUR responsiblity to put the

carts in the corrals. The grocery store has to pay someone to go out to the corrals, so you leaving them in the parking lot is just making their incredibly annoying job even worse. You'll notice that the most of the grocery stores, at least that I have seen, have a sign above their corrals or in other places asking customes to "please put your carts in the corrals". This is basically a polite way of saying "Don't be a lazy shit." If your grocery store doesn't have corrals then it's probably small enough for it to be reasonable to walk the cart back, but I suppose you might be "saving someone's job" if enough people were lazy. Seriously though, Americans really don't need to get any lazier.

Oh, and alot of the people who do this at the grocery store I worked at basically had an attitude that the employees were not realy human beings, but instead mindless creatures who exist solely to the work they find tedious.


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[Liberaltarian]

56. bullshit.

if it were the customers RESPONSIBILITY to do so, that's what the signs would say, instead of "PLEASE put them in the corral".
"Please" is a request, not an instruction.

plus- if it were the customers responsibility to put the carts away, why is it that the stores are the ones that pay for damage from windblown carts?

[Phentex]

65. The signs I see say the stores are not responsible for damages

which is why they ask you to put the carts away.

[skygazer]

67. Let me get this straight

You won't put your cart in the corral because it just asks you to do so politely. If you were told in no uncertain terms that it was required, you would do it?

What kind of a moran are you? Of course it's a request. So you're so rude, you completely ignore requests? You sound like a thousand other customers I've had who feel it's below them to do anything more than they absolutely have to and expect the "little guy" who makes next to nothing running their ass off at the grocery store to do it for you. You're not protecting anyone's job - you're just too fucking lazy to be bothered.

Of course the stores have to pay for damages. How the hell are we going to track down the idiot (you) who left the cart loose in the first place? But that's not your problem. You're above all that, obviously.

[Phillycat]

74. BRAVA!!!!!! *cheers, throws flowers*

You said it so much better than I ever could have. That attitude (the other poster's) is so....Republican. "I'm out for ME! Screw YOU!"

[dean_dem]

80. It's pretty obvious you've never had a shit-retail job.

Do you need to be told to do it? How about just a little common courtesy?
Jeez, not to get all peace and love on everybody, but there's already enough people in this world going out of their way to be dicks to one another. If they spent a fraction of that effort being decent to each other think what could happen....And the little things count too.

[Baclava]

52. Shopping is dangerous...didn't anybody ever tell you?

I rarely buy enough to have to use a cart for anything but groceries..and the grocery place I use has baggers that wheel out the carts for me and take them right back. They get their $2 for the trouble.

[Liberaltarian]

54. Stores that don't want to pay someone to gather carts-

should do what IKEA does- put up a fence barrier that prevents people from taking carts into the parking lot in the first place-

that way, nobody has to return carts to a corral, and nobody has to worry about windblown carts hitting their cars.

If the store is going to allow it's carts into the parking lot, it is the STORES responsibility to gather them up, and pay for any damage they cause, NOT the customers.

[Rabrrrrrr]

59. Boy, you just don't get it, do you?

The stores DO gather them up. Duh. No store is dumb enough to consider their carts disposable.

The stores provide the carts as a convenience to the customers, and allow you to take them to the parking lot as a convenience.

The grocery store I worked at had 2 baggers in the parking lot at all times, sometimes up to six, for the express purpose of grabbing the carts from the corrals and bringing them inside.

And, because of thoughtless fucks who think the world revolve around them and "fuck the store, it's their responsibility", running around madly, especially in bad weather, trying to save people's cars from the unthoughtful fucks who couldn't be bothered to put their cart in a corral. Wind can easily grab a cart and blow it into a car on the other side of the parking lot. I've seen it.

And yes, the store always had to pay for the damage, because of thoughtless fucks who either haven't matured enough to consider the ramifications of their actions, or don't give a damn.

perhaps the true libertarian attitude - fuck other people's cars. They aren't mine, so screw 'em.

Sure it's the store's responsibility - and stores do take responsibility. But there's a certain level of common, decent human responsibility in it, too - by putting your cart in the corral you aren't denying someone else a job, nor being *forced* to do someone's job - you're helping your fellow customers by keepnig carts out of traffic, and keeping carts from damaging cars. Too bad you can't be bothered with that part.

[kick-ass-bob]

77. Are you on crack?

No one will fucking shop at a grocery store that makes you carry 40 bags of groceries to your car.

:eyes:

[Phillycat]

79. Wha?

You've never been to a grocery store that keeps the carts fenced in around the store? Where do you live?

[Midlodemocrat]

91. Hello there Bob

...How is the idiot boss today?

[lolly]

115. Amen!

Carts aren't there "for the customer's convenience." They're there so you'll fill them up with stuff!

Geez, I wonder what some of these people do when something really bad happens--if you can't handle a grocery cart out of place . . .

[ProfessorGAC]

55. I'm With You. But, One Even Worse Pet Peeve

People using their mom's handicap marker to use those spaces! Man, that pisses me off.

I've got MS. I qualify for one of those. And, i WON'T GET ONE, WON'T USE ONE! I always feel that there might be someone worse off than me who needs that space! I might be wobbly, but i can make it! If i can, there is NO excuse for anyone else to use those spaces. None!

I don't care if you had knee surgery last week. If you're well enough to drive to the mall, you're well enough to walk the extra 100 feet!
The Professor

[sniffa]

58. i pLay demo-cart derby with them

you can make some good dents on most cars with those carriages.

[skygazer]

69. I'm with you, Rabrrrrrr

As a grocery store employee, I'm always grateful to the customers who have the grace and class to return their cart to the corral or to accept assistance out so we can take care of it. Some people in this thread don't seem to understand the concept of common courtesy, at least not as it applies to the lowly retail worker.

[Kellanved]

92. Well, the European deposit system has its advantages.

[fortyfeetunder]

107. Reminded me of an incident at Costco one day

The corral was less than 100 feet away. And the asshole didn't have one of the regular carts, it was one of those flatbed types. And I looked at him and said, why can't you put it back it's going to roll away, and that fucker said to me with this nasty voice, "why don't you be for real"? The parking space was on an incline so I knew one good push and collateral damage was imminent...sigh...

[Rabrrrrrr]

108. Stupid useless fucks

And I'm amazed at the number of useless lazy idiots here who have developed elaborate justifications for why "Put the cart in the corral" doesn't apply to them.

I hope all their cars get scratched.

And if they go to management to have the store pay for it, I hope the manager has some kind of Divine Insight to be able to say to them, "Hey - aren't you the asswiping ignorant lazy useless shitass fuck who said that putting the carts away is the store's responsibility? We're not paying you shit, you libertarian fuck. It's time to sleep in the bed you made, dickhead. Fuck you."

On edit: typo fixin'

[lolly]

117. I've never done that

I don't fetishize my car and its paint job. It gets dinged. That's life. Why do you assume that I would?

FWIW, I have no problem with the quarter deposit system. I'd gladly sacrifice my quarter on those visits when I have kids to load/unload in the parking lot. Why would anyone assume I wouldn't?

If the stores you work for are that worked up about this, they should post really nasty, mean signs like some of these posts about how horrible people are who don't schlep all over the parking lot to return carts. I mean, really. The economy is booming--you don't need the business anyway.

[Rabrrrrrr]

121. Doesn't matter if *you've* never made a claim

Lots of people do. And they wouldn't make those claims if lazy shitbags would just return their carts to the corral. To you, returning a cart is schlepping. To me, returning a cart is a responsibility, so that others don't have to suffer from my inconsiderateness and selfishness.

It's an easy, easy, easy thing to do, and saves other people a lot of hassle later on. And helps keep the cost of your groceries down, not only because the store doens't have to pay to repaint people's cars so often, but also because the store doesn't have to replace as many carts.

But, I guess you're bound and determined to live a life of special privelege that says "courtesy doesn't apply to me, because I have needs". Well, so be it. Welcome to George Bush's "Me First" America.

[Logansquare]

127. Reminds me of a woman who littered right in front of me

She threw a juice bottle on the sidewalk, not 14 feet from a trash can. When I confronted her, shes said "Relax, OK!!?? I was in a hurry!!"

[Rabrrrrrr]

128. Littering also really pisses me off

I like to pick up the trash, and then run after the person with the attitude that they've just dropped some special and valuable and say "Sir! Sir! You dropped this! I saw it fall from your pocket and thought you'd want it back!" (or ma'am, depending)

[ScreamingMeemie]

111. I love the people who leave their carts right there in front of me at the

U Scan. It's why I love Aldi's so much. Deposit on the cart which you get back when you return it. And some idiots still leave them in the lot. sigh.....:hi:

[coreystone]

120. "Rabrrrrrr", one of the greatest posts I have seen on DU!

Personally, I totally empathize with all of your "graphically undeleted" visuals".

I must admit that over the past few months that I have always blamed the Republicans for this. It must have something to do with creating "messes" for the masses to cleanup and suffer the consequences of such irresponsible actions.

There are some "chain" grocery stores which I will not do business with.

There is one store where all the employees are very courteous and professional. Here is where I shop. Many times, I will attempt to help the "checkout" person bag my groceries so the next customer may be served more expeditiously. I realize that it is not my responsibility, but, I do understand that the pay scales aren't exactly "living wages" for most of these people; and, I like them to know that I appreciate their courtesy and a smiling face. I guess I could stand there with my finger in mouth waiting for some employee to bag, but, that's just the way I am.

NOW! :grr: I don't usually post profanities here. I do the best to control myself. Sometimes when I return from shopping to the parking lot, some "idiotic fu--ing Republican" leaves a shopping cart right next to my car. Sometimes there is a slight "incline" or "decline" which increases the likelihood of this cart "scratching" the finish on my car. I yell out, "You f---ing stupid, lazy, pork barreled piece of s--t, ........y'a probably voted Republican"! BLAH! BLAH!

I mean all they have to do is move it 10 to 20 feet to the designated area so it doesn't cause any damage to anyone else's vehicle.

All that, and everything that "Rabrrrrrr" posted!!


:)

[Rabrrrrrr]

123. Absolutely!

And thanks!!

And even more sadly, it isn't just republicans, apparently, who are self-centered useless shitbags. Plenty of dems here seem to think they aren't beholden to the "put the cart away courtesy" rule.

I wish I could go find their cars, and ram carts into them repeatedly, especially when they're in a hurry and say "I'm sorry, but my need to push a cart into your car far exceeds your need to not have me do this. besides, cars get scratched all the time, you fucking loser, and I know that because you told me so, so stop complaining about this and buck up and take it."

[Threedifferentones]

126. "A person who is nice to you, but rude to a waiter, is not a nice person."

If you have a legitimate reason for not taking care of your cart, then that's fine, but otherwise you are just being an ass.


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