Teen's Parents Sue Actor Nick Nolte

[Champ]

LOS ANGELES - Parents of a teenage girl have sued Nick Nolte, alleging their daughter was drugged and sexually assaulted at a party at the actor's Malibu home two years ago.

The lawsuit, filed Nov. 29 in Superior Court, also lists an employee and several others as defendants. One of the defendants, Nicholas Woodring, was convicted in March of having sex with the girl, then 15 and a minor.

The girl's attorney, Philip Dunn, said Woodring was sentenced to 180 days in jail, but that the case did not go to trial.

"The criminal prosecution is over, and the victim wishes to make sure that nothing like this happens to anyone else again under the same or similar circumstances," Dunn said Thursday.

The district attorney's office could not immediately confirm a criminal conviction late Thursday.

"The incident happened nearly two years ago, when Mr. Nolte was not at the property," Nolte's publicist Arnold Robinson said Thursday. "It is our understanding that the individual responsible has been held accountable. Mr. Nolte was at the time, and still remains, concerned for the young lady's well-being."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=492&ncid=787&e=1&u=/ap/20041203/ap_en_ce/people_nolte

[lies and propaganda]

1. i thought it was going to be

for that awful show he had on Comedy Central.

And hello to you Sun Devil, I am in Tempe :)

[GRLMGC]

2. That was Gary Busey

They kinda look similar. They both look fucked up.

[lies and propaganda]

3. damn !

youre right. God bless, they seem like the exact same person in my mind. Bushy haired, yelling at the moon....

[0007]

18. ......and with long scaly tails and a sharp eye for a lot lizard

[Champ]

4. I believe that was "I'm with Busey"

Still an awful show though.

Hello, West Mesa here :hi:

[NNN0LHI]

5. Don thinks parents should know where their 15 year old daughters are at

AT ALL GODDAMN TIMES! I have 2 daughters. I knew where they were at all the time until they were 18. Wasn't easy. Nothing worthwhile is.

Don

[Debbi801]

6. Thank you. My first question was "What was she doing there?"

[lastliberalintexas]

20. That's pretty disturbing

A number of people would say the same thing about a rape victim walking down the street by herself at night.

She might have had legitimate reasons for being there- we don't really know. *If* he drugged her and raped her, it is no excuse that she was some place she shouldn't have been, or was wearing a tight dress, or even that she had flirted with him, or ...


And I say *if* because we don't know, and everyone should be entitled to the presumption of innocence.

[Debbi801]

28. But at 15, her parents should have had some sort of idea where she was

[sandnsea]

9. If that's true

Then you were an over-protective parent. OR you just thought you knew where they were at all times.

Any woman of any age ought to be able to go anywhere without fear of being drugged and raped. Period.

[NNN0LHI]

10. Then call me over- protective. I have been called worse

Both my daughters are in their 30's now and I have had recent heart to heart talks with both of them about how good or bad of a job my wife and did raising them. Both said basically the same thing. They indicated that if we had not been as strict as we were they would have felt un-loved. They remember having friends who's parents gave them free reign, and both agreed it did those kids no good whatsoever. I don't know what else to say?

Don

[Turley]

24. Good on you

I'm doing the same thing to the best of my ability. Somebody here wants to tell me I'm wrong, fine. I ain't changin' a thing on their account.

[sandnsea]

27. Balance

There's a balance between free reign and a minute by minute time clock. So, they've never told you about the time they said they were at "X" when they were really at "Y"? Because it would be the very rare teen-ager who hasn't lied to their parents on at least one occasion.

[NNN0LHI]

30. Couldn't watch them 24/7. Used spot checks when ever my wife were able

Which was often. They both always checked good. Maybe we were just lucky? Maybe they were? I don't know?

I was 18 and my wife was 19 when our first was born. So we both had a pretty good idea what the deal was for kids at the time we were raising our own. I am sure my wife and I being younger helped give us the energy to stay one step ahead of them too. We all had the same interests in music, movies, and other recreational activities.

I am still married to the same lady too, some 30+ years later. Getting married was the best decision I have ever made in my life.

And for the poster who misconstrued my original post into something it wasn't. No one ever deserves to be drugged and raped under any circumstances. And that still goes even if the kids parents are idiots.

Don

[msgadget]

15. True, but kids need limits and parents who are fully aware of

their propensities. If your kids are just out and about and you don't know who they're hanging with or what they do for fun, they may just end up with people who don't respect their right to safety. This is no way shifts the burden from the criminal but I'm sure the parents of this poor girl have some regrets of their own.

Edit to add: The lawsuit makes it...yucky. Only life sentences or a similar fate would satisfy me.

[Divernan]

23. What utopia do you think you're living in?

What we OUGHT to be able to do is a concept that only exists in a perfect world - and that's not the USA in 2004. A prime difference between thinking Democrats and neocon, born-again conservatives is that we Dems are reality based. And the reality is that there is a lot of crime in this country and parents need to try to protect their kids from dangerous situations while teaching them to have enough common sense to protect themselves once they are grown.
There's a reason that the courts have set 16 as an age for stautory rape laws. It's a question of maturity and common sense. This girl was 15, ie, too young to drive herself to the party scene. And given it was in the LA area, there was not likely public transportation to Nolte's house. (and for those of you who haven't read the whole article, Nolte was NOT even home at the time and the perv in question was a security guard).
When my kids were 15, we parents drove them and their friends to and from parties, games, etc. I'm sure that there were times that they could have taken off to go somewhere else and I didn't know about it, but I NEVER raised my daughters to think they could go ANYWHERE with no fear of danger. I taught women's studies and criminology for about four years in the 70's and I agree that victims should not be blamed because of they way they were dressed, or what time of night they were walking down the street. But that's not what Don said.
I agree that parents need to keep very close tabs on where their kids are and who they're with. And the first time you catch a kid lying about where they were or who they were with, there should be some serious curtailment of social activities. Which gets down to teaching your kids the basic value that you owe honesty to the people who love and care for you .

[patcox2]

25. The reality is that the world is not more dangerous than before.

And if you fall for the perception that there is more crime, for example, then you are falling for a republican talking point.

I think its a shame kids are raised like veal these days, driven everywhere, all activities scheduled and time-slotted. It sounds like prison to me.

[sandnsea]

29. Who said to do that?

My point is that the person who did this is the criminal. Period. Putting shame on a 15 year old for being naive is not appropriate. It's part of what allows men to continue in this behavior, those "over-sexed 15 year olds who are trying to prove their womanhood" and the rest of it. Adults are responsible for their behavior, always.

What I teach my daughter about the realities of life is a whole other matter. Ending up at a party, however she may have gotten there, shouldn't put her in the position of being drugged and raped. And if it did, I'd blame the creep who did it, not her.

[tsuki]

22. I always tried to know where my son was, but, you know, they have this

ability to outfox you. And all it takes is one time.

[Tempest]

7. Parents must be Liberals

After all, no Repug would file a friviolous lawsuit, right?

/sarcasm off

[daleo]

8. There was a Sgt Nick Nolte killed in Iraq, Nov 24/04

Just one of those name things that makes you do a double-take.

[Name removed]

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[NNN0LHI]

12. You guys crack me up. No shit n/t

[trotsky]

13. It's so sad, you have no clue how the legal system protects you.

Wait until Bush's rich buddies get their "tort reform" passed and then you or a family member gets injured by a defective product. Hope you enjoy your "tort reform" then!

Buh-bye!

[Old Mouse]

19. scream it louder

You got that right. Punitive damages are the final protection against complete corporate exploitation.

The McDonald's coffee judgment was just and fair. Shows how powerful the propaganda is.

[trotsky]

21. The full story of the McDonald's coffee never gets told.

McDonald's had been sued and warned over the temperature of their coffee (180 degrees). Then this older woman, who was NOT driving the car, had the cup pop open in her lap and suffered horrible burns. All she had initially asked for was reimbursement for her medical bills - something like in the tens of thousands of dollars. That's it. It was the jury, having seen McDonald's unwillingness to correct the problem BEFORE, that awarded a huge payout.

And then, upon appeal, it got adjusted way down. The woman still got more than she asked for, but it was nowhere near the millions the jury had initially given her.

Doesn't make for as good of a "tort reform" story when you have all the facts, does it?

[saigon68]

14. Enjoy your stay

[bleedingheart]

16. yeah...let us limit our rights....

until of course your family is involved...

[Kathy in Cambridge]

17. And he says he's a moderate democrat

:eyes: :boring:

[saigon68]

26. ADIOS

Vaya con Dios