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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:49 PM
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Have you ever heard of a Liberal Republicain?
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 05:51 PM by Neoma
This dude brought it up when i posted 'Joe The Republicain'
can anyone help me respond to that?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:51 PM
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1. Yes
His name was Charles Percy and he was the US Senator from IL in the late 60s early 70s. There were plenty of liberal Republicans back then-liberal on social issues, conservative on fiscal issues.

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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:54 PM
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3. What about now?
Hardly any Liberal republicains at all?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:22 PM
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10. They died off
when Reagan took office, I think.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:54 PM
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2. The 'Governator' is considerd a 'liberal' Repub in some circles...nt
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:54 PM
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4. Jeffords and Packard were the last ones in the Senate
Neither in office anymore, but they were there 10 years ago.
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baba Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:37 PM
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17. Jim Jeffords? From Vermont?
He's still in office, right? As an independent?
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:38 PM
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21. D'Oh!
Right he is...but he's not a Republican anymore
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:38 PM
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22. Or am I thinking of Jeffers?
Help! Foot in mouth disease!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:58 PM
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5. I didn't until my friend told me her son considered himself one.
She said he is liberal on social issues, and strongly favors gun rights. He just ran for some office in Minnesota, but lost.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:19 PM
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9. That's a huge chunk of the Republicans I know.
I keep telling them they are Moderate Democrats.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:01 PM
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6. i think about 80% of the people who vote for repukes
are liberal, equal rights, pro choice, pro good paying jobs, pro environment, but have been so propagandized by the media, from the expected sources, faux, hate radio, to the stealth, (churches, and other anti worker, anti pro labor sources), and the absurd, like tv such as Law & Order and the National Enquirer (and their always bash dems all the time policies) that they don't understand what they are voting for anymore.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:07 PM
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7. there used to be many. Tom McCall and Wayne Morse for two.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:18 PM
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8. Ok now the dude
is saying

(quote) what was your point? was it to just make up untruths and say some liberal did them? in which case, mission accomplished... (quote)
Help?

heres Joe The Republican incase you don't know it


Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:23 PM
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11. Since these are all causes that 'liberals' have stood behind
I don't think I understand his point.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:30 PM
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13. Tell this "dude" that he's fucked in the head if he thinks
conservative Republicans had anything to do with the creation of the things that Joe the Republican enjoys. All you have to do is turn on Rush to know that Republicans nowadays oppose all those things.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:35 PM
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14. I think thats the point..he IS fucked in the head
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:18 AM
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25. Most of what Joe takes for granted
was first brought forth as an issue at teh turn of the last century by th progressives who were, indeed, mostly republican.

Teddy Roosevelt was the first and perhaps the most liberal of all presidents. Look at his record.

My 85 year old mother in law had been a republican all her life until she met me. Now she votes independently and favors the democrats...

I think the dramitic shift for the republican party occured becuase of two key factors, the democrats reluctant embrass of the civil rights movement and Nelson Rockefellers much publized and highly controversial divorce and remarrage while he was running for the republican nomination for president in 1964.....

Both of those set the stage for the right to recapture the republican party and expand on their small base by appealing to the inner racist and all the fear that brings with it to those who Kevin Phillips dubed the Silent Majority in 1968.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:24 PM
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12. I think I'm married to one ?
A bunny/tree hugger who voted for Bush?
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:41 PM
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15. Former Connecticut governor and senator Lowell Weicker
My mother, the most liberal person I ever met (besides myself), loved this man, and believe me, she HATED Republicans (except for my dad). Apparently the Repugs got to be too much for him, too.

http://badattitudes.com/MT/archives/000588.html
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:13 PM
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16. also know as Rockefeller Republicans..........after
Gov Nelson Rockefeller former Ny Governor & VP.

Our present governor I think tries to copy him and Teddy Roosevelt but he stumbles and bumbles his way through.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:40 PM
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18. I used to do push-polling for the Republicans ten years ago.
(This is kind-of a long story, but I will say that it was a paid position at a firm that also did corporate surveys as well.) Anyways, one of the candidates that we did this for described himself as a liberal Republican.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:43 PM
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19. We have Red Tories in Canada
They are liberal conservatives. Generally speaking, liberal on social issues.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:15 PM
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20. Sen. Chafee (RI)
is actually quite liberal, especially on environmental issues
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:03 AM
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23. There are plenty here
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:11 AM
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24. Sounds like an....
oxymoron to me


or is it oxymoran???
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:19 AM
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26. ether why,hes an *bleep*
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