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Mon Dec-06-04 09:01 PM
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Why don't they stop harrassing Michael Jackson? |
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They are just dragging this out... they got NUTHIN'
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:04 PM
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1. You have GOT to be kdding! n/t |
mondo joe
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:05 PM
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2. Why doesn't he stop sleeping with little boys? |
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Guilty or not, he's inviting this.
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:08 PM
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4. I just don't understand why this is taking so long. They raided his home |
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:09 PM
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5. Well given that he has a huge estate and a staff and security systems |
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Well given that he has a huge estate and a staff and security systems dedicated to keeping his activities secret, I'm surprised they don't need a whole military unit roaming the place for a month solid.
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:05 PM
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Would you leave you kid alone with him...... I WOULDN"T
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:25 AM
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16. HELL NO. There's enough sickness between MJ and the parents |
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to keep the rest of us in a relative state of sanity for years.
I've lost sympathy for MJ AND the victims' parents both.
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:09 PM
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6. It's dragging on cause he's got lawyers. |
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Lots and lots of lawyers.
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:11 PM
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7. Why don't they put his pathetic ass in jail? |
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I like it when the police harass people who have a predilection for inviting early teens to their homes for sleep overs. I think it is extremely sick and suspicious behavior.
Pedophiles have no rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tue Dec-07-04 01:51 AM
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11. "Pedophiles have no rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
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So I guess we ought to just lock em up at Gitmo and deny them access to a lawyer + due process... since they hate Murika and all.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:52 PM
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41. ARE YOU ACTUALLY DEFENDING PEDOPHILES??? |
propagandafreegal
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Tue Dec-07-04 04:39 AM
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13. That is exactly my point, if he is guilty he s/b in jail NOW... nm |
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:26 AM
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17. It looks like we've got another Freeper in here... |
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This is something I'd expect from them...NOT from us!! If you were ever wrongly accused of something, YOU'D want to exercise your rights. I don't know if MJ is guilty or not, but what you said is ignorant and not the way things work. CONVICTED Pedophiles even have rights. Not many, but they are there. Duckie
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:36 PM
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40. Umm, actually, they do. |
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It's a funny legal technicality called "due process of the law."
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:13 PM
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Uhhh sure. You got an inside track to the DA's office? Just wonderin' if you're in the habit of talking through your hat.
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propagandafreegal
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Tue Dec-07-04 04:37 AM
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12. I was all against MJ at first but nothing but BS speculation is coming out |
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of what I hear in the press.... there are reporters that have made their careers on this case and I don't see any tangible thing coming out of it. Now they are swabbing his mouth for DNA? Why not when they arrested him a while back?
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Mon Dec-06-04 09:14 PM
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9. Maybe 'cuz he's a perv? |
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Tue Dec-07-04 01:44 AM
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10. They're fishin' for something |
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I wonder if they have anything that will stick.
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Tue Dec-07-04 05:03 AM
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14. the fact that they haven't arrested him yet.... |
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They have no solid proof of anything. If they did he would be in the big house making little ones out of big ones. The DA has such a jones for Jackson that it's almost embarrasssing to watch. Either shit or get off the toilet...
The thing that makes me go hmmmmmmm...is that the alleged victims are withholding or have withheld testimony in leiu of financial compensation from the boy king. Sounds like money is what they are after not justice (if there is such a thing).
Once again if the DA had a case Michael would have done the perp walk by now. I don't give a rat's ass how big his estate is or how many lawyers he has. The DA hates Jackson and the DA is a powerful man.
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:22 AM
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15. I HATE to agree with you, but I do. |
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The DA's got nothing. They've had ample opportunity but keep grasping at every little straw.
The guy is a sicko, of that I have no doubt, but it doesn't look like they will ever be able to nail him.
And in the SICKO department, who is sicker: MJ or the parents who persist in letting their sons sleep in the same bed with MJ, whether any sexual activity ever occurred or not?
I have a 7 year old, and I wouldn't let my kid anywhere near that place!
I often wonder what other kinds of sckness the LA County DA could be uncovering without the time and expense they expend on MJ.
I'm no MJ apologist, but this needs to stop. Like you say, do the deed or move along. There's a HUGE line, buddy!
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:26 AM
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18. Exactly. I totally agree with your view on these parents. I am not |
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going to pass judgement on Jackson. Part of me hurts for the obvious fact that he never had a normal childhood, which perhaps lead to such an abnormal adult life. I wish his family would urge him to see a counselor instead of a plastic surgeon.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:59 AM
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25. So: not passing judgment on jackson, but on the parents instead |
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I love how people say they're not passing judgment on Jackson as if this makes them open minded and virtuous, but they're quick to pass judgment on the parents of the kid.
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Tue Dec-07-04 12:26 PM
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32. Where did I say I was open minded and virtuous???? Where again? |
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I said, the guy's had accusations leveled at him. As a normal, non virtuous, parent...I'm not going looking for trouble. Bad day?? :shrug:
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Tue Dec-07-04 04:03 PM
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33. They are equally responsible, and the kids are left to be victims. |
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I'm not "virtuously" defending Jackson's actions at all; he's a sick bastard for even having kids overnight, even if nothing occurred.
But any parent who would allow their kid in that potentially a dangerous situation is deserving of my contempt as well.
You are misreading what's being said--I see NO ONE on the boards defending Jackson; but they are offering reasons why Black Americans have a justifiable suspicion of law enforcement and why the DA is overly obsessed with this case when he ought to be using his precious resources more wisely.
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:13 PM
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36. What I'm talking about are the people who say "I don't want to pass |
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What I'm talking about are the people who say "I don't want to pass judgment on Jackson" but they gladly pass judgment on the parents of the kid by saying they're just out for money.
It's a double standard: we're not supposed to think Jackson is guilty, but it's okay to say the parents are guilty of lying, or the DA is guilty of a vendetta.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:33 PM
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39. the parents are idiots, okay? But they had a dying child and |
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someone held out a free cure, the best doctors in the world and then saved their son's life as MJ claims and you wouldn't do that for your kid? Or you'd just be smarter than them and know this was coming down the pike? I am sorry, but the parents are not in the same league as a pedophile, if that's what you asserting. It's easy for you to say that after it's done and the accusations are out there. It's quite possible they didn't know that they were sharing a bed. That kid seemed to think it was not his parents business to know, and MJ's employees, ya think they were letting the parents know?
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Tue Dec-07-04 05:19 PM
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35. What kind of parent sends their kid into a bedroom with a celebrity? |
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Frankly the parents are MORE culpable than Jackson...if he DID do anything, he could NOT have done it but for their assistance.
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:17 PM
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37. I agree, however it should be noted the parents are vulnerable as well |
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It's not an accident that Jackson finds families who need money, who are in crisis, who are more vulnerable.
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Tue Dec-07-04 10:06 AM
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26. I wonder what kinds of sickness |
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they are uncovering about Jackson that we aren't being told about by Faux News.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:25 PM
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38. he was arrested..and he was bailed ... there's going to be a trail... |
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as they get more details in testimony from the kids- they could be looking for new evidence. Something like this is very very hard ro prove against poor or wealthy people. Often there are other adults who will claim the kid is lying, as awful as that seems. Without videotapes or diaries, probably only DNA, specificly placed where a kid knows it might have ended up would be concrete evidence. My brother has worked quite a few of these cases, and they can be heart breakingly difficult to prosecute. Like any rape, a kid would have to go immediately to the hospital to get evidence to make it stick for sure.
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:48 AM
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19. You want a known child molestor to NOT be harrassed? What the heck |
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Tue Dec-07-04 08:56 AM
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20. The DA could be prosecuting viable cases |
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What's the matter don't you watch law and order? This high profile case is either viable or it isn't. There are many other viable cases that the DA could be pursuing. In the land of limited resources you have to move to the case that you can prove. Plenty of rapes and murders that are passing under the radar because the DA is pouring resources into a case he apparently can't win. I have sympathy for those people who have been raped or murdered by someone who isn't famous.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:34 AM
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21. In other words: only prosecute poor people |
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The DA has major obstacles to overcome BECAUSE OF JACKSON'S RESOURCES.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:40 AM
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Do you want to maybe think about the victims of crimes? Regardless of race...poor people get less justice than the rich...in your back ass ward world...poor people who are victims of violent crimes would never see justice. You prosecute criminals...
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:57 AM
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23. A much stronger case is required to be viable against jackson |
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A much stronger case is required to be viable against jackson who has the resources to withstand and deter a typical prosecution.
You want a viable case, it's going to be harder to mount and will require more resources including time.
But in your world that means he should simply be permitted to keep hurting kids.
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Tue Dec-07-04 10:08 AM
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27. I'm sure they are pursuing others |
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just because we see a lot on the MJ case doesn't mean they are letting all the other pervs go loose.
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Tue Dec-07-04 09:59 AM
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24. This Thread is Obviously Intended... |
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...to take all the recent heat here in the Lounge off of Woody Allen.
:-)
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Tue Dec-07-04 10:15 AM
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28. Ewwwww! That guy is creepy. |
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And his movies are lousy, too.
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Tue Dec-07-04 10:35 AM
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29. Welcome to DU, Java Queen!!! |
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Tue Dec-07-04 10:50 AM
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31. The problem I have with Michael Jackson is this... |
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I am assuming he's innocent here, simply because no substantial evidence has been given that he is guilty.
However...
If you have already had a legal battle, as MJ has, involving possible, um, to put it delicately, indiscretions with an underage boy, and if you have had to shell out some big bucks to keep the whole thing from going to court...
Why on earth would you expose yourself (no pun intended) to the danger of a repeat of that situation?
After that first time, any sensible person would have stopped having the sleepovers, stopped hanging out with young boys outside the presence of their parents, and basically done everything they could to make sure that the same charges and suspicions could never be directed at them again.
MJ strikes me as someone who can never grow up. He likes hanging out with young boys, I think, because in many ways, they are the only people he can truly relate to. But there have to be boundaries, and whether or not anything of a sexual nature happened, MJ stepped over and obliterated those boundaries.
I seriously doubt that the DA has any cold, hard evidence against MJ, or else there would already be a push for prosecution, no matter how good MJ's lawyers are.
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Tue Dec-07-04 05:03 PM
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34. Harrassment or Karma? |
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MJ is SERIOUSLY fucked-up. One need only look at a sreies of pictures to determine that. Interesting how the same goes for your "Leader of the Free World."
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