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gtp1976 Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:42 PM
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Bill O'Reilly
He is evil, so I am told. He is often grouped alongside other truly evil folks (GWB, Rush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) but here is my question...

Compared to the other 4 I mentioned, he seems like "evil lite" to me.

Granted, he seems to be on the conservative side, but in all honesty, sometimes, albeit rarely, I find myself agreeing with him.

I guess what I am asking is this...In my opinion, Bill is not a true conservative/Repuke because he sometimes gives an inch and makes somewhat sense. None of the other pukes ever do. So why does he get mentioned alongside the pukes I despise?
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:43 PM
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1. His name is a punchline now
His fall would be sad if he wasn't such an asshole. Karma kicked him in the ass bigtime.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:47 PM
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2. Bill gives an inch as part of his act
He tries to pass himself off as a middle of the road kind of blue collar guy who's always looking out for the little people being preyed on by the liberal elite. It's a load of crap. Bill is a Bush whore through and through.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:18 AM
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14. The voice of a common man
who happens to be a millionare. I agree hes a conservative in
disguise now and again but still a Bush whore.
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IHeart1993 Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:50 PM
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3. I can't stand him
The sexual harassment suit. While I was in 7th grade, I was sexually harassed. O'Liely reminds me of those boys from my school.
And that's not a good thing. :scared:
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:50 PM
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4. Because he is despicable
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 11:51 PM by Godlesscommieprevert
How do I count the ways?
Well, maybe there's the lawsuit he just missed because he settled out of court, for sexual harrassment.

Maybe it's because he makes out he's "one of the 'folks'' in true Hitlerian fashion ( don't forget that's how Goebbels made Hitler one of the "folks" - that's what "Volk" means in Nazi talk.)

He's a popularist a best and a fascist at worst.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:51 PM
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5. My opinion? Because he's a despicable puke. Total narcissist and

word trickster. He uses his verbal acuity to put the ultimate spin on any subject he feels he knows something about. He does speak well, which is what makes him more insidious. A long time ago I heard him interviewed on some talk show and I was shocked at how little he really knew about so many different subjects. You could see and hear him faking it. It was amazing and enjoyable until I realized that people believe this creep. The king of spin on a show called the No Spin Zone. "I will lie to your face to prove to you I'm telling you the truth." That's what should be put on his head-stone.

I don't like the guy. Plus he was rude to my man Jon Stewart when he was on his show. That was right before the election and thought..oh you just wait Bill O'Lielly!

oops
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:20 AM
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15. It's funny how smart someone can sound
when they get to pick the topic and prepare beforehand.

But O'Lielly has just always seemed like a windbag to me. All bluster-- no substance.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:52 PM
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6. Bill O'Reilly has one political ideology
That political ideology is the furtherance of Bill O'Reilly bank account.

His "I'm here to protect the little people" about makes me want to puke my guts out.

The only protecting he is doing is his wallet.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:58 PM
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7. Well said...If he could have gotten as big by being a liberal pundit, he
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 11:59 PM by BrklynLiberal
probably would just as easily have gone that way. He has no principles whatsoever, except what serves his ego and his wallet. He is a self-serving, hypocritical, lying, sexist, narcissist. He is a bully and a condescending slob. I hope that his public humiliation continues...
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:07 AM
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8. The way he treated Jeremy Glick is inexcusable.
If it was any other show but his own, and any other network but Fox News, he would most likely have been fired for his treatment of Jeremy Glick.
Bill gives that "inch" to seem reasonable. I believe it's all an act. He lied about his political affiliation, he lied about his upbringing, and he lies on his show almost every night.
He's no better than the other four you mentioned.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:10 AM
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9. I found myself agreeing with him once
and it was about that bullshit with the flag of los angeles where the ACLU was making a big deal about it because the flag contained a cross.
Whatever, we got Americans dying at war. Who gives a fuck about the flag.
But I can't stand him because if someone doesn't agree with him, he shuts them up. Literally.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:24 AM
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16. I disagree with that. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
You can worry about, or be as involved in the war (or anything else) as you want, and still have other subjects you feel need to be addressed. To answer your question, apparently THEY gave a fuck about the flag, so it was appropriate for them to pursue the matter.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:29 AM
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18. yes, but I believed it was fruitless to get all bent out of shape about it
I want people to wake up and smell the fucking coffee about this war.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:31 AM
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19. Yes, I understand you point about the war. But I still disagree.
For me, it's like this. Breathing is paramount, but that doesn't detract from the need to eat. They're two totally separate things.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:35 AM
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20. thats great
i agree, but the ACLU is there to LOOK AT THIS SORT OF THING. They have nothing to do with the war unless it directly interferes with American civil liberties (hence the name). of course there is a lot to look at concerning that, but the ACLU takes a lot of cases. as to getting bent out of shape, im sure a lot of people think that no one should get bent out of shape about banning gay marraige


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:26 PM
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24. I'm just saying that was the only time I agreed with O'Reilly
I know that is the ACLU's job, but as a regular joe blow who was watching the news, it did not concern me.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:19 PM
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27. i understand that it does not concern you
frankly, it doesnt concern me either. but saying that the ACLU was in error by worrying about this kind of misses the point. you agree that the ACLU was doing its job, so whats the big deal? why criticize the ACLU for doing its job? because that is CERTAINLY what bill was doing


:hippie: The Incorrigible Demcrat
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corksean Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:24 AM
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10. I think it's time we immortalized Bill O'Reilly.
It's only fair that a man of his stature should be remembered for more than just his contribution to ethical journalism and balanced interviews. One concept he embraces is the boycott. (Boycott France, boycott Hollywood, yadeyadeyah.) The name Boycott originated from a fellow Irishman, one Captain Boycott, an unpopular landlord who drove his tenants to refuse to supply their labour. Therefore I think it fitting that the name O'Reilly should similarly be recognised, for example:

"She was so gorgeous I had to go and have a quick O'Reilly straight away."

"Darling, I caught young Johnny having an O'Reilly in his bedroom this morning. Maybe it's time you had THAT talk with him."


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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:33 AM
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11. HAH!! Good one. Reminds me of a similar idea
suggested by a gay journalist after some really nauseating pRick Santorum homophobia. "Santorum" should be the name for umm...oh this is pretty rank...for that er...dribbley mess...after sex.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:21 PM
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23. Welcome to DU, corksean
:hi:
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hasbro Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:27 PM
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26. However
O'reilly once admonished Al Sharpton the "boycotts are UnAmerican." If that's the case can we try him for treason.
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CaptainCorc Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:34 AM
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12. Like Bush, he plays to fear
...and to a weird good old boy expediency. By that I mean he is constantly showing his eagerness to throw away the Bill of Rights when it serves his purpose and then to resurrect it when THAT is the expedient thing to do.

He loves to give us all hell about being "bad" Americans, but I can't think of a worse thing for an American to do than to sidestep the Bill of Rights. He's a miserable trickster with blowhard debating skills. I wish I could figure out a way to sue the bastard.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:46 AM
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13. Bill O'Reilly will be remembered for one thing:
"Falafel"
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 01:24 AM
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17. NAZI .. you hear him tell Jews to go home to Isreal! nt
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gtp1976 Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:37 AM
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21. Thanks for the responses.
Makes sense. Definitely an attention whore. Always shuts up the opposition. And has an ego bigger than the state of Texas. Plus, hypocritical. However, he is entertaining at times, IMO. But then again, I think Rush is sometimes entertaining due to the sheer absurdity of what he says a lot of the time.

I suppose I sometimes forget there are folks out there that believe anything and everything they hear on television or radio without even thinking twice about it.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:08 PM
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22. Remember that line
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 12:10 PM by stanwyck
from Broadcast News? About how William Hurt, the nice guy anchorman, was the devil...because the devil is not going to appear as evil. He's going to appear reasonable and charming. But, he's here to lower our standards. Just a little. And that's what's happeniing. O'Reilly isn't a journalist. He's a carnival barker. But half of America views him as today's Walter Cronkite. That's the treachery. That's why he's Satan.
We know Hannity and Rush are idealogues who can't see beyond Rove's faxed agenda. But O'Reilly comes on all smarmy and sincere, like your favorite uncle. But he's the devil, lowering the standards every time he opens his lying mouth.
(by the way, his tough Irish kid act is totally bogus. He's from an upper middle-class family and he's about as tough as, well, a loofah. Anytime he gets challenged, he goes off on a whining rage which lasts for months. Witness his George Clooney fixation. He's as phony as his hair color and his sprayed on tan).
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:32 PM
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25. it's two things for me
First, like a lot of other people said, he pretends to be an independent, but then espouses some of the chicken-hawkish, reactionary polices imaginable.

Second, he's an asshole, plain and simple, and that's not just an an act for the show, the man is truly an asshole. Outfoxed has a really good section just about O'Reilly, I highly recommend it.
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