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Mon Dec-13-04 04:58 PM
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People cheered the death of a human being |
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I couldn't care less about the Peterson circus. I tuned in to watch crossfire and get the trial results instead. People actually cheered the fact that this man will die. And no one, at least on CNN, is expressing disdain for that kind of bloodlust. How disgusting our society has become.
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Mon Dec-13-04 04:59 PM
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1. it is disturbing isn't it |
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Mon Dec-13-04 04:59 PM
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How many people during all time attended executions?
It, alas, is the human condition.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:00 PM
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I guess I had too much hope about humankind advancing in the last 100 years or so.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:04 PM
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6. Humankind regressed in last 100 years |
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Easily the bloodiest in human history. 100 million from communism of all sorts, both world wars and many genocides.
We are brutes, redeemed only by our own discipline and mercy.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:07 PM
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15. My one encouraging thought |
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Is that people were much faster to protest and oppose the War in Iraq than we have been in previous wars. Vietnam went on for years before there were major protests. We're at least making some progress.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:03 PM
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5. I remember seeing the people outside the prison when Ted Bundy |
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was put to death. They cheered. I was sickened by that. Ted Bundy was a horrible person, and the world is better off without him, but you just don't cheer an execution. There is no cause to celebrate.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:04 PM
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You get that with every execution |
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I remember Gacy execution parties.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:03 PM
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4. Che had people killed. |
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I'm generally against the death penalty because of all the mistakes that have been made applying it, but you seem to say here that there is no good reason to have someone put to death at all.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:06 PM
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and I'm not Che. I would guess he probably didn't take pleasure in seeing people die.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:06 PM
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12. No he didn't - he said it's disgusting that people cheered! |
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And it is disgusting. I think Scott Peterson is pretty smarmy, but I'm not cheering over this verdict.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:04 PM
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Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 05:05 PM by terrya
This isn't the fucking Roman Empire, with Chrisians being thrown to the lions in the Colisseum.
This is the fucking 21st century. And the fact that the United States STILL has this evil, barbarous, death penalty (which is unfairly meted out to people of color...not to mention the fact that they're has been several times where innocent people were almost put to death is sick, shameful and obscene.
Scott Peterson comitted a crime. A heinous crime. But goddammit, he (or anyone else) should not be put to death. This country should be not be about that. We should be better than that.
Shame on those sick fucks in the "Crossfire" audience who cheered.
End of fucking rant.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:10 PM
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17. I should have clarified |
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They didn't show crossfire. It was canceled because this trial is so much more important than anything else going on the world right now. The people cheering were in the courtroom.
I agree that the state should not have the power to kill people.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:25 PM
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33. Thank you for clairifying. |
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But, goddamit. There's eomething seriously fucking wrong in this country when people are cheering over this. And we'd better start thinking about what kind of people we are...and what kind of society we want to be. I think the death penalty is immoral.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:05 PM
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8. Unfortunately, I think its human |
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Remember ancient Rome and how people cheered at seeing other's killed violently? I don't think we're that different from them.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:05 PM
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We'll be gone soon enough.
Not just you and me, but all of us. For good. I'd say in about, oh, 30-50 years.
--p!
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:17 PM
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THAT is sure a cheerful thought! lol
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:07 PM
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13. Amen, RA. I'm sure among those cheering are people who shake their heads |
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when they read about the people who cheered Christ's crucifixion. :eyes:
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:07 PM
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14. Some of my RW relatives sat down to the TV with beer and chips |
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when the Iraq war started. Cheering the news coverage like it was a football game or something. :( People are sick.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:09 PM
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16. Well, he killed his wife and 'unborn child that they had named, Connor' |
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so isn't that enough for people to hoot'n'holler like hungry jackals?
Yes, Scot did a horrible thing. But while people are happy to cheer for the death penalty, nobody seems to give a fuck about working on the problem. Committing murder is usually a response to a problem. Not a problem itself.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:14 PM
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Do we really know that he did it. We know he's scum for cheating on his wife, and for being a liar, but what real solid evidence was there that he actually killed his wife and their unborn child.
Most of the evidence was circumstantial.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:11 PM
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18. I bet they were all fundies that hate abortion too. |
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They never get the irony.Every person we put to death in this country we lose a piece of our soul. The "law and order" repukes do not trust the goverment with taxes but they will trust them to put someone to death.I just shake my head.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:12 PM
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19. Crowds gather at Ellis Unit One in Texas to cheer every execution. No |
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dimming lights anymore with injection instead of electrocution so it's not quite so dramatic but the circus atmosphere is still there.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:14 PM
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20. Wait, they showed footage on Crossfire? Or the audience cheered? |
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:16 PM
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22. They canceled crossfire |
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because of how important the Peterson trial is to all Americans. I watched the results of the case being read instead. The audience in the courtroom cheered, along with many other Americans who were probably cheering at their TV sets.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:17 PM
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25. Oh, okay, gotcha. Your post confused me. You said you were watching |
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Crossfire.
But anyway.
Yeah, about the issue itself. I'm not against the death penalty and I'm not against cheering for it. I thought the case was a little circumstantial and I'm surprised they got the DP out of it.
But I don't really care either way. The guy's a scumbag, you know?
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:17 PM
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23. Ah, the myth of perpetual human progress. |
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Our Judeo-Christian arrogance in all it's glory.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:19 PM
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28. Hate to break it to you, but YOU'RE a newbie. |
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And the previous poster is making a non-Christian bashing point which you failed to understand.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:24 PM
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My only point was that this dispells the myth of continuing progression in a straight line. I use the Judeo-Christian term to refer to the modern era, like others might use the term CE or AD. My interest is in pre-history, so that's where I'm coming from.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:19 PM
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29. Let's not start piling on the newbies, shall we? |
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:26 PM
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34. Back to the Village with you, Patrick McGoohan! |
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:20 PM
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30. DP makes about as much since |
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as hitting a young child for punching his brother.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:30 PM
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35. That's quite a good way to put it. |
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I'll have to remember that.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:32 PM
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36. Didn't he supposedly bleach the kitchen floor and that was |
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where he was supposed to have killed her?
I just find that poor planning for a first degree murder which makes me think that they got into a heated fight (maybe he hit her and she died) that's really why I would have given him life in prison without parole.
(I wasn't following the case, but did they ever say how they thought he killed her and where?)
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:44 PM
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I've never understood how the state killing a human being was in any way different than the crime that the person committed to begin with. It is NOT a deterrent, as history has shown over and over again and that is the only (dubious) reason I can see for it.
While I do not like the fact that we spend a whole lot of money to feed and care for these people in prisons, to use that as justification is wrong as well. We spend a whole lot of money to support people in institutions too - should we kill them?
Instead of decrying the cost of housing prisoners, we should spend more on preventative programs to help people stay out of prison but those programs are always the first to get the budget axe.
Our nation has a very skewed sense of logic.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:45 PM
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38. The death penalty drags down the whole society. |
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It turns us into animals.
Or rather, it allows us to glory in our baser instincts.
Disgusting indeed.
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:56 PM
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40. Yes, yes and yes! Violence... |
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breeds violence. Until a ten year old gets taken away be police IN HANDCUFFS for having brought scissors to school.
Bad enough that there still is death punishment. But cheering??! Crying for what man is able to do. But cheering?
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:48 PM
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39. It could have been worse... (WARNING: Bad taste) |
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So hang the bastard, hang him with cheer. We'll make some hot dogs And drink a few beers. And when his tongue rolls out we'll know, It's the end of the show And we all can go home!
But not till we hang the bastard, hang him here. The most exciting thing this town has seen in years. When his body stops jerking we'll know, It's the end of him, it's the end of him, It's the end of him, And the end of the show.
(Cowbell solo)
Taken from Cannibal! The Musical
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Mon Dec-13-04 05:59 PM
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I'll have to go see that musical next chance I get! hehe
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:04 PM
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42. Some people do deserve to die. |
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There are evil, terrible people in this world. I just have a problem with the government sanctioning it. Too many of the masses seem ignorant of the potential danger in this.
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:08 PM
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I'm sure that my mother in law was one of those Fox News watchers cheering from the comfort of her home.
I can find no happiness in the condemnation of another human being. The whole situation just leaves me feeling sad. I didn't follow the case, so I don't know how damning the evidence was against him, but the death penalty in itself doesn't better satisfy my sense of justice than life without parole does. I guess I'm just lacking in the blood lust necessary to feel comfortable with it.
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:14 PM
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We have a blood bath in IraQ , a basketball game with a brawl, and people cheering for the death of a man!!!! how long before they throw dems to the lions!!!
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:19 PM
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45. Makes me wonder what is going on |
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:26 PM
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46. I really could care less about the outcome of this trial, but |
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it will be a long time before he dies. He will be on death row for the next 10 years at least, while he files appeal after appeal.
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:41 PM
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Whether or for or against the Death Penalty... one should never cheer the death of another. I remember when the "SHOCK AND AWE" Happened people at my community college gathered around the television, turned it up as loud as they could and cheered, applauded, and rooted each time a bomb was dropped, or a camera went out... I ended up leaving the lounge.. couldn't stand it.
"shakes head" I was so hoping they decide on Life without Parole... wonder if they did make that decision if people would've booed?????
Bloodthirsty the populous is.
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:44 PM
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48. So did I. And so did many people here. |
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In June. When Reagan died.
I am not morally superior to those people. I'm one of them -- I just come at it from the other side.
I'm not proud of that. I'm just saying it, to own it.
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Mon Dec-13-04 06:46 PM
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49. Unfortunately I'm not surprised |
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this is coming from the same society that saw the pictures from Abu Gharib and said bullshit like, "Well, they are all terrorists anyway."
In America we relish death. We love blood, guts, and violence. WE are a sad fucking pathetic people.
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Mon Dec-13-04 07:55 PM
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And they call gays perverts? How perverted can one be to actually relish and bask in the fact the the state will murder one of its citizen? I'm not against severe punishment for people like Peterson, but the death penalty is plain wrong.
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