I just remembered why I'm not Catholic anymore.

[SarahB]

I work in health care and my new employer is affiliated with the Catholic church. I can't get birth control covered under my health insurance, but starting in January, I can opt for supplemental health insurance for my dog!

I do not joke! :eyes:

[skygazer]

1. It's hard to even know what to say to that

~sigh~

[GOPFighter]

2. Does it pay for spaying and neutering???

*

[SarahB]

7. Now, that's a question.

My dog is already spayed, but I may just ask the benefits people tomorrow. I can't even use the pre-tax medical deductible account for birth control costs. Ah, well. Otherwise, it a decent job and good place to work though.

[Feathered Fish]

3. That is a nightmare

I am with you on that one - my university health plan doesn't carry it either.

[progressiveBadger]

4. wow

I'm sure everyone will go to heaven because of that choice. </sarcasm>

[MikeG]

5. I still like to go to Mass.

[Demit]

6. now that you're not Catholic anymore, you can joke. :)

btw, will they pay for getting your pooch neutered or spayed? Or is that a no-no?

[trof]

8. 1. Get birth control pills for the dog.

2. Take the pills.
Viola!

[rurallib]

9. I quit because

of a molestation.
Is Viagra covered? God wants babies!

[SarahB]

10. I think it probably would be.

It doesn't cover artificial insemination though.

Sorry for your terrible experience. :(

[pres2032]

11. YAY! another anti-Catholic/Christian thread on DU!

I'm so happy! I was depressed and wondering when I was gonna get to hear people bash my faith and my church, and lo and behold DU pulls through!!!!!

[SarahB]

12. I'm not bashing, I just disagree with some of the rules.

Because I disagreed with so many of them, staying in the church made me feel like a hypocrite. If you agree with the teachings, more power to you. We all have the rights and freedoms to believe or not believe how we choose.

[skygazer]

15. I've never understood

Why those who get offended when people disagree with their views click on threads that very obviously disagree with their views.

Besides the fact that the OP said nothing anti-Catholic - simply said she wasn't a Catholic anymore and that she disagrees with the health policy.

If that's bashing, then you are obviously far to thin skinned for the Lounge.

[arcane1]

18. some people LOVE IT when their faith gets bashed

gets them in that warm fuzzy persecuted martyr mode

[Sandpiper]

37. Yeah, how dare anyone criticize the Catholic church

n/t

[Wapsie B]

13. Yup. Same here.

My employer is affiliated with the Catholic church and started offering optional pet insurance coverage as of last year. But nothing for birth control at all. I find it strange that they seem to side with the conservative Catholic side of things with regard to this issue.

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[Political_Junkie]

17. umm, yes, that's exactly what they think.

:(

[Bridget Burke]

16. What did your employer say when you requested birth control?

You've got a valid complaint.

But jobs are hard to get & I can understand that you're afraid to speak out.

Therefore, your frustration.

[SarahB]

22. It's not an individual.

It's a large health care corporate umbrella that's affiliated with the Catholic church with thousands of employees. They did nothing illegal. The government cannot force a religiously-affiliated group to to go against their faith in these types of things and there are enough good things that it's not worth NOT working there (oh, those double negatives :D), I just happen to find it inconvenient and annoying. (Not to mention the thick irony with the pet insurance.)

[Radical Activist]

19. Al Gore needs to resurrect those stories he told about

people with high prescription drug costs. I'm not being critical SarahBell, I just think it would be great if political figures talked about birth control costs as openly as other prescription costs.

Imagine Gore pointing out a woman in the audience and saying:
"This is Jane Smith from Topeka Kansas. She had sex 38 times this month with several partners. Her birth control costs are staggering! She has to pay those costs out of her pocket because her employer won't cover birth control for women."

hehe

[SarahB]

21. It is a real health care issue.

Primarily for women. Oral contraceptives are $30-50 a month, a deop shot about the same, an IUD is several hundred dollars, and a tubal ligation is several thousand. I'm not now, nor have never been a promiscuous person. It's the matter of controlling my body.

[Radical Activist]

24. I know.

I don't mean to make any suggestion about you and I realize it is a very serious issue.
I just couldn't help but think of a different version of those exaggerated sketches Saturday Night Live used to do of Gore using examples of people in the audience who have high prescription drug bills. Did you ever see those?
I'd never put you down SarahBelle!!! Please don't take it that way.

[SarahB]

26. Oh, ok. I appreciate that.

Sometimes, it's hard to know the tone on message boards and well, I'm a little pooped out tonight. :D

Not that I'd ever put down the promiscuous. They're having more fun than me at the moment. :P

[More Than A Feeling]

29. Under my plan, Edna's prescription drug costs would be covered.

Under my opponent's plan, her house would be burned to the ground.

Those were great. Anyone know where transcripts of those skits can be found?

[Radical Activist]

30. LOL yeah, that's what I'm talking about

No idea.

[proud2BlibKansan]

33. I agree

I had bad endometriosis and the medicine my doctor wanted to prescribe was mainly used as a fertility drug. So my insurance wouldn't cover it. But they did pay $35,000 for my hysterectomy. And we wonder why health care is so expensive?

[I Love Alaska]

20. America is one of the only industralized

countries that does not offer FREE birth control. What is wrong with this place????????

[yardwork]

31. And America has the highest rate of abortion among western countries!

What a coincidence!

Countries in western Europe with legal abortion AND safe and easy access to contraception have very LOW rates of abortion, much lower than that of the U.S.

[Seneca]

23. Do they cover Viagra?

That double standard is beyond rationale.

[SarahB]

27. Oh course.

Viagra assists with spawning.

[Seneca]

28. silly me

I feel stupid now! :dunce:

:hi: I will think before asking next time.

[nini]

25. It's not just Catholic related jobs

lots of insurance policies won't provide BC.. but if you want Viagra.. no problem! go figure.

[n2mark]

32. The Jesuit priests must be turning in over their grave now.

Years and years ago, like 1969 I took a Christian marriage course at a Catholic University, this was right after I left the convent. The priest who taught the course was totally for birth control. I can remember his words to this day, he said how can the Pope and those who make the rules say people should not use birth control? They are not married, they do not have a family to support, they do not experience a family. He used this is as an anology, if parents were to put a pair of shoes outside their door, prayed to God to fill them with food and money, would He do this? No. That is what the Catholic church is telling you to do. Pray and God will take care of you. That is not reality. When you wake up in the morning the shoes will be empty. The leaders of the church are not in touch with reality. If the priests can't experience they do not understand what people experience. How can the leaders of the church tell you what to do, if they have not been there?

The priest also said on sin, if you believe something is a sin then it is sin, if you don't think so, then it is not a sin. He said follow your beliefs. Wonder if he is still a priest? Sure wish I could remember his name. He was great. His words were what I needed to hear after leaving the convent. Gosh, when I left the convent if I drank too much, I thought I was a sinner, the priest told me he did not want to hear this from me anymore. Did I hurt anyone? No. Then, no problem.

This was one college course that left an impression with me. I'll never forget it, I still feel like I am back in his class. He was sooo good.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. The Jesuits are wonderful

My dad taught for most of my childhood in a Jesuit high school. Those priests were like uncles to me. What a terrific group of people! If all the priests in the Catholic church were like them, I would never have left the church.

[JVS]

36. That man sounds like a heretic

[StopTheMorans]

35. another ex-catholic here; i'm with you Sarah

misogny, resistance to any scientific advancement, and insitutional denial of any wrongdoings by priests do not a friendly organized religion make IMHO...

[njdemocrat106]

38. Is your new employer a result of Dubya's "faith-based initiatives?"

I'm Catholic, and I think your employer should at least provide the option for birth control (hey, I'm liberal also!) :-)