Help! Does anybody have the DVD/VHS of "Carousel"?

[flowomo]

The movie from 1956. This is going to seem an odd request but here goes -- I write a weekly newspaper column and this week I want to include a discussion of the scene in the movie "Carousel" where Billy "hits" his daughter -- and the daughter and the mother then discuss whether someone can hit you hard and "you don't feel it at all." The problem is, I don't have the movie and I am hoping somewhere here does. If you have it, could you possibly transcribe that small bit of dialogue and post it/e-mail it to me? Strange request, I know -- but I am on a short deadline!

[mark11727]

1. Quotes page from IMDB.com has it ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049055/quotes

On edit...

Julie Jordan: Yes, dear; it is possible for someone to hit you, hit you hard, and it not hurt at all.

[flowomo]

2. that's great and thanks, but I'm hoping for more of the scene....

don't you think that line (repeated several times is the scene) is just unbelievable? The whole domestic violence sub-(and not so sub)text in that movie is appalling.

[sir_captain]

4. I see what you're saying, but i'm not sure I totally agree

it's not as if Billy doesn't get what's coming to him...

[flowomo]

6. Julie and Louise both blissfully accept being smacked around by Billy...

they expect it; they take it as a sign of love; that's how it's played in the movie.

[sir_captain]

7. Haven't seen the movie in a while

last production I saw was the fantastic Lincoln center one in the mid-90s. But as I recall, Billy ends up dead--I don't think that is exactly endorsement of domestic violence.

[flowomo]

8. yep, he's dead... that's the main plot point...

but he dies during a robbery.... the whole issue of the beating of Julie and the slap for Louise are not central to his death. I'm using it as an example of a "dated" message (happened to catch the movie on the satellite the other night).... and comparing it to an old Simon and Garfunkel song I happened to hear a few nights later -- "Silent Night/7 o'clock news." Amazing, for a 40-year-old song, the "news" is still the news. Ditto Barry McGuire's "Eve of Destruction."

[sir_captain]

9. But isn't he stealing

because he's been a bad husband and father and hasn't provided for his family? In that sense, I'd say his death is intimately connected to his relationship with his wife and daughter...

No question that the movie is dated, though... And certainly what you're writing about is sadly relevant and worthwhile.

[Jessica]

3. Is this what you're looking for??

Porch Scene (Act II, Scene 5)

BILLY
I don't want her to see me.

HEAVENLY FRIEND
Then she doesn't.

BILLY
She looks like she saw me before I said that.

JULIE
Oh he's gone.

LOUISE
I didn't make it up mother. Honest, there was a strange man here and he hit me-- hard-- I heard the sound of it-- but it didn't hurt, Mother! It didn't hurt at all-- it was jest as if he kissed my hand!

JULIE
Go into the house, child!

LOUISE
What happened, Mother? Don't you believe me?

JULIE
Yes, I believe you.

LOUISE
Then why don't you tell me why you're actin' so funny?

JULIE
It's nothin', darling.

LOUISE
But is it possible fer someone to hit you hard like that-- real loud and hard-- and not hurt you at all?

JULIE
It is possible dear, fer someone to hit you-- hit you hard-- and not hurt at all.

BILLY
Julie! Julie!

Longing to tell you but afraid and shy,
I let my golden chances pass me by.
Now I've lost you,
Soon I will go in the mist of day,
And you never will know,
How I loved you,
How I loved you.

She took the star, she took it! Seems like she knew I was there.

HEAVENLY FRIEND
Julie would always know.

BILLY
She never changes.

HEAVENLY FRIEND
No, Julie never changes.

BILLY
But my little girl, my Louise-- I gotta do somethin' for her.

HEAVENLY FRIEND
So far you haven't done much.

BILLY
I know, I know.

[flowomo]

5. yes! thanks! Now, can you find the little bit with the "starkeeper"

where Billy admits he hit Julie when they argued -- "because she was right"?