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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:21 PM
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Do you hate kids? WHy? CHeck in...
I always say I do...mainly just for laughs because people can't BELIEVE it when you say something like. "God I fucking hate kids."

Truly though I'm a big kid fan. When I worked for the city my co-worker and I always usewd to pick on them when they rode by on bikes and stuff.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:25 PM
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1. Kids are the best.
Especially the ones that are pre-attitude. Teenagers, now they're a little different...
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:30 PM
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4. I'LL be damn, I love teenagers!
I kid you not, When my oldest hit it, we got along much better, and when my daughter hit it, we also get along better. I have a 12 yr old with one HIGH voice! and I always joke with him and tell him that after twelve years of this, we better hear us some Barry White at fourteen lol.:D

I also like them at about 3-5. They are so funny!!
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:46 PM
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9. Really!?
Maybe I just haven't taken the time to get past the facade. Of course, I may be picking the wrong ones :P
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:02 PM
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14. I think we all like em at certain ages
although some like the newborns, and some likethem reallly old, like ninety. But kids are kids! and yeah, for whatever reason, I get along with all their friends too...
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:30 PM
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28. That's cool.
My friends always dug my mom. It made life easier/happier at times.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:22 PM
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32. My daughter's best friend calls me "Mom."
That always warms my heart. The girls are 17.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:26 PM
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2. My wife and I are child-free...
Don't have them, don't want them, and perfectly happy without them.

Radios, on the other hand...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:55 PM
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13. I'm with you on the kids.
Don't have them, don't want them (anymore), but do have a couple of step-kids and their offspring. It's all good and that's why I have to send X-mas gifts through the p.o.:evilgrin:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:28 PM
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3. I do not hate kids
I choose not to spend much time with them, but i really don't hate them.
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:31 PM
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5. Can tolerate them...
if they are related to me.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:35 PM
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6. I love children
I loved teaching Bible school to kindergarteners right before going to college. I loved being a volunteer to the kindergarten class in my school district twice a week. I love the children of most of my friends who have children.
I really would like children of my own but my husband thinks that we should get more financially stable first.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:37 PM
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7. Kids are cool
I like um...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:41 PM
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8. Nah, I like the little buggers.
And, for some reason, kids seem to like me :) Probably because I get down and play with them and talk to them like real people instead of talking down to 'em.

Nothing wins over a kid quicker than when an adult joins them in playing in the mud or something :)
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:48 PM
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10. And this time of year
gives me an excuse to play with their toys!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:51 PM
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12. Yup . . .
We didn't have cool toys like that when I was a kid :)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:51 PM
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11. I love kids, but I hate it when this one couple brings theirs over
to our house.

They're great friends, but we have to de-kid the entire place when they come, because if we don't, those little brats of theirs will tear it apart. The instant they're in the door, they're grabbing at our cat, they're fucking up the TV remote, they're going through all our drawers, they pull anything of value off shelves....and their parents rarely look after them.

We've even mentioned to the parents a few times how their kids need to be gentler with our cat and how their kids can't go pulling everything off the shelves, but no matter how much we hint about it, these two little monsters are right back at it destroying everything in their path! Our cat has smartened up and runs like hell out the door when they show up.

Christ my kids never acted like that! LOL!!

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:03 PM
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15. do the kids act this way at their own house? Sounds like they
might be oppositional-defiant or worse. I know people like this too and they are lousy parents/disciplinarians. These 2 brats kept going after my cats and I was LIVID as I don't want my cats scared in their own house. Now the cats run into the basement when they hear the doorbell and then they listen a while to hear how much noise is going on upstairs. Then if it's safe, they come out and visit with guests. But pets should never ever be allowed to be playthings or the circus act for the guests. Kids like that are a direct result of the bad parenting
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:21 PM
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25. hmm, now that you ask, I don't think they do, at least
not the times we've been over there. Interesting.

I totally agree with you about the parenting thing, although I have to say that most of our friends who have young kids are really conscientious. We always were with ours, and it's something that pays off when they become adults.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:39 PM
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30. I had to finally tell these people my house is NOT a playground
some people can be very nice friends and these two people were very nice, but they couldn't seem to discipline their brats. When I told them nicely about their kids they just sort of looked at me. Like a duh look. One kid almost broke my window (he was pounding on it with his fists) and another time he was spitting inside my house when I told him not to do something and another time terrorizing the cats, etc. It is called oppositional-defiant disorder and when you look it up, it's the PARENTS screwing up their kids. These kinds of parent s usually get very insulted when you tell them to leave the destructive brats at home. They realize they created the demolition derby but they don't want to be told about it. SOme clueless people simply shouldn't have kids. This one time when the one brat was throwing a hard ball inside MY HOUSE, I got really pissed and the father finally put his 100% own creation of a brat in a therapeutic hold, which is what they do in the mental hospitals for patients who are acting out. Both kids did terribly in school because the parents were disssing the teachers for giving too much homework (and were in fact teaching the kids to disrespect adults). Both kids so far are liars and lousy students and have no respect for adults. One is 15 and one is 20. Some people should NEVER ever have children
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:16 PM
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37. The funny thing is....
I've known this couple for a long time, and before they even had kids of their own, he told me once that when he and his wife had kids they were never going to let them act like disprespectful brats like how his sister's kids acted. Was he ever wrong. One day when they were over, I told him right in front of his kid how I could barely walk becuase I pulled a muscle in my back...so what's his kid do? The little creep goes clear across the room, runs across it, and slams into me from behind! Pain agony!! #@X%#@!*F!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:19 PM
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43. and the father did what when the snot pulled this sick little stunt?
I also know the people from before they had kids too. I have known them 25 years. She's a teacher to top it off. SHe couldn't stand her sister's kids or any other brats and then her kids were/are worse than her sister's kids.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:42 PM
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44. The father did reprimand her, but it wasn't nearly enough
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 02:49 PM by mtnsnake
Balled her out a bit and told her not to do that again, but he didn't really make it sink in. He didn't put much time into sitting down with her and fully explain things to her. A month or so later I saw this same kid wack another friend of mine in the face with a newspaper when he was least expecting it. The father wasn't around and I gave told that kid, "Don't you ever hit someone like that in the face again". I didn't care at all if she told the parents I yelled at her, although she knew better because then they would've found out she smacked someone. This isn't a stupid kid either, just a freaking brat....not one of my favorite people.

on edit: One of the reasons I think his kids act like this is because both he and his wife are "physical" people. I don't mean that in a bad way. What I mean is they like to "rough" it up with their kids in a jovial manor, like tackle them in the snow and "rough" them up, or "wrestle" them on the floor and stuff. Nothing that's violent or with any ill intentions, though...all in fun (or so they think). They also encourage their adult friends to act like this with their kids, and that's why I think the little girl "attacks" adults sometimes.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:27 PM
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46. my people did the same. Problem is they never taught the kids
when it became improper, like friends or relatives of parents. When you look at it, it is still lousy and improper parenting because they weren't teaching these snots the proper social boundaries. My shrink friend always said when kids act out or have other unacceptable behavior, the kids are that way for only one reason: take a look at the parents.

This one time, I had just planted a tree and they came over. The son, brat of all time, started bending the branches down. Finally he cracked one off. I was ready to kill that kid as I had had so much of him from all the previous occasions. Well, the mother had been watchingand saw it and did the same thing as you wrote. She said SMILING and quietly and sort of singsong "Now, Andrew, you know you shouldn't do things like that." Gee that's real discipline there, huh? She was basically almost encouraging him to do it again. She could have done so many other things, like tell him to get his rear end in the car and sit there until they were ready to leave, she could have told him like she meant it, she could have said sternly don't you EVER do anything like that again, etc. Most of all she saw what he was doing, bending the branches down and she could have stopped him dead in his tracks before he broke the branch off.

Nice talking to you!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:07 PM
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16. I prefer not being around them until they are adults or act with some
good amount of civilized behavior.
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Hillaryin08 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:08 PM
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17. kids are cool, its adults that suck
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:09 PM
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18. Agreed
Hey sis...yeah we make these monsters dont we!!!!

:hi:

Naw, we have awesome kids...All seven between us!!!!


Merry Christmas!
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Hillaryin08 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:18 PM
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23. christ that many?
glad we tied our tubes. but we do make em smart and pretty
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stupid grin Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:14 PM
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21. no doubt
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:10 PM
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19. I don't hate them
but very few of them can carry a tune.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:48 PM
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45. They can if they're exposed to music enough and are taught to sing
Even most supposedly "tone deaf" kids can be taught to sing on key with some individual attention. You have to make them aware of what they're actually singing as opposed to what they're supposed to be singing.

The children's choirs of Europe are for kids as young as 8.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:14 PM
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20. To make it totally clear,
I hate kids who are nasty little brats.

I hate kids who run around stores without paying attention to adults.

I hate kids who talk back to adults.

I hate kids who interrupt adults when they're talking.

I hate kids who don't listen to people.

I hate whiny little kids who cry when they don't get their way.

I hate little brats who have temper tantrums.

I hate parents who allow all of the above WAY more.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:32 PM
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33. That's funny, I hate adults that display all those behaviors,
at least the kids have an excuse:D

p.s. don't really hate, just prefer not to be around.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:14 PM
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22. I love kids one at a time. Put two in the same room, and I go nuts. nt
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:20 PM
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24. People assume I do...
...because I've chosen to never have any.

There's a big difference between not having children and disliking them, but some people seem to think I'm shirking some sort of biological duty or something.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:24 PM
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26. not me!!
I look back and while Im so very glad I had them, I wonder what it would be like to have none...and I fantasize about being in your position! Plenty of us reproduce, and I think it is way too personal to make a judgement one way or another.

I think your choice was a wise one, and mine too! vive la difference!
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:29 PM
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27. I hate lousy parents more.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:31 PM
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29. I don't care much for undisciplined kids
and is it me or are there LOTS more of them than there used to be?
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:39 PM
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31. I like mine...
other people's I'm not so sure about lol. ;)
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:44 PM
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34. Kids are like dogs...
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 10:45 PM by D__S
They're fine and fun as long as they belong to somebody else... I just wouldn't want to own or care for one.
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:51 PM
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35. Chickens are more better
Kids take too long to feed out.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:20 PM
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36. I don't want to have any, but I generally like kids.
I think I'm kind of tempermentally not cut out for parenting because I'm kind of the "oversized kid" type, myself, but I think young people are neat. They're more curious. They can admit they don't know something. They say what they think more often. They usually have a sense of fairness. It's what happenes to them later on, usually when they become teenagers, and especially when they have crappy parents, that isn't pretty.

(Sidebar: When I played house as a kid, I never wanted to be the mommy or the baby, or even cross the lines and be the daddy. I actually once said, "I'll be the unmarried aunt who's really cool and babysits and brings junk food and presents." I was five.)
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:17 PM
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38. You better not hate kids
I was one not too long ago! :D
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:20 PM
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39. i like kids like i like cats
if i go over to a friend's house and they have a cat, it's cool, and i'll play with it, and it's fun, but you couldn't pay me to take one home.

same with kids.

haha the two most loved things on here and i don't like either...

but i've got 3 siblings so i'll be content with a bunch of nieces and nephews
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:25 PM
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40. My kids are great
Others I take on advisement. If I find they're not complete barbarians, I enjoy them. I like talking to kids when they're not so screwed up by their parents that they can't interact with anyone.

I prefer to be with kids when their parents aren't around (sounds like something a pedophile would say, doesn't it? oops) just because they tend to be better behaved. And most kids don't misbehave with me - I don't beat children but I don't take any shit either and I don't talk down to them or speak in baby talk.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:29 PM
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41. Kids as teachers...you can't beat 'em
I've learned more from listening to children than I have from pontificating blow-hard adults with many letters after their names! I never had kids, but I get along with most of them. You all are right, tho, when you say the insufferable ones can be blamed directly on the parents.

It seems to me a lot of parents don't pay real attention to their kids. I work for an airline, and I encourage kids of all ages to come hang out with me and play with the computers (they can't hurt anything or cancel a flight, no worries!) and most kids love to talk and tell me all about themselves. I mean, to excess! Makes me think they're not getting an ear at home.

Bottom line, kids are great. You all were that age once (probably more recently than I was) so try to remember how hard it was to articulate what you thought, to be taken seriously, to even elicite basic respect from adults. And adolescence is just pure torture. You gotta be sympathetic for anyone going through that and give them some leeway.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:31 PM
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42. I don't hate kids, but they are intimidating.
It seems like any wrong move as a parent and you raise a serial killer.
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