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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:47 PM
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Who here grew up in an 'ethnic' home?
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 04:50 PM by Cuban_Liberal
By ethnic, I mean a home where your parent(s)/primary caregiver(s)--- one, or both--- were not born here in the US. What was your experience like, vis a vis, home life vs. 'public' life? Mine was a fairly good amalgam of both: on the one hand, my folks spoke quite a bit of Spanish at home and made me culturally-aware of my own heritage, but at the same time they absolutely insisted that I prepare myself to live in a largely-Anglo world by learning to speak and write English well and learning American history and customs.

How about you?

:)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:49 PM
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1. My mom's Japanese.
She exposed me to some of her culture, but mostly, we were All-American.

The good news for her is that there are always large numbers of Japanese women in military communities so she could maintain her language. Also there are usually Oriental grocery stores so she could cook traditional food.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:52 PM
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2. Very cool.
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 04:52 PM by Cuban_Liberal
Have you ever noticed how many bodega-type stores there are near military bases now?

:)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:54 PM
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4. Definitely.
That's a positive effect of having a military presence around the world. Not sure it always offsets the negative, but still, its not ALL bad.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:55 PM
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6. Yeah.
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 04:56 PM by Cuban_Liberal
It's also how you go from 'poor' to 'middle-class (eligible)', in a single generation.

:)
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:52 PM
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3. My mom was French-Canadian and dad was U.S. citizen,
but unfortunately they had the idea back then that teaching kids both languages would confuse them. So we never learned French. I regret it to this day. My mom spoke mostly English to us. We did learn a lot of Canadian attitudes -- we never were brought up to be racist, even though we grew up in the South. It just never "took" with us.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:54 PM
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5. Same here, re:racism.
My mami's Cuban, and I also grew up in the South, mostly. 'Racism' is basically a term she never 'got', because Cuba is so racially-diverse/mixed.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:20 PM
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12. It's never too late to learn French
Check around your area to see if anyone is offering classes. You should put doing that on the top of your to-do lists for 2005!:hi:
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:22 PM
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27. Oh, I have. I just bought tapes and am looking at joining the local
Alliance Francaise. I have an "OK" accent, don't have to struggle with that too much because I took French in high school and practiced with my mom then -- but I have forgotten lots and lots of words and couldn't conjugate a verb to save my life right now.

But learning French is at the top of my list for this year.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:56 PM
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7. English was very important in my house.
I was taught that if you had even the slightest hint of an accent people would treat you differently. Spanish was still spoken in our house, but always English first and always with focus on the pronunciation. I was made aware of our heritage, but it was very early on not to celebrate it openly. I know it sounds bad, but the way my family was treated would make anyone understand why.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:59 PM
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9. It was at our house, too.
My papi speaks decent English, but my mami's is so-so, to be honest. Nonetheless, we were expected to be 'A' students in English, because they both believed that if you couldn't speak and write well, you wouldn't 'get ahead', no matter how intelligent you might be underneath it all.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:24 PM
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13. It's true though...
Even if your grammar is good if your accent is too heavy, you will still get treated differently. It would be funny to watch someone with less adequate grammar talk down to someone with great grammar and a heavy accent if it weren't so disgusting.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:38 PM
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14. It's bizarre.
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 05:39 PM by Cuban_Liberal
I've been told by teachers and professors that I understand the nuances of English better than most non-Hispanic speakers, but if I just once let my natural accent creep in, I'd be dismissed as 'that dumb sp*ck' by at least 50% of Americans. Sad, innit?

:shrug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:44 PM
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17. But Tony, accents are so sexy!
My b/f is Puerto Rican and I love his accent. His English is decent but his accent is very thick.

Nothing wrong with that and it doesn't mean you're a "dumb sp*ick"

My baby has a college degree and a very successful job.:hi:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:47 PM
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20. Thanks, Will!
:hug:
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:25 PM
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28. Aren't they, though?? Wonderfully sexy. That is another Canadian
attitude I must have picked up from my Mom -- if you have an accent, it's cute/sexy/nice/a part of you. It doesn't mean you are stupid.

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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:40 PM
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16. No one fooled around with Henry Kissinger and his accent!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:47 PM
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19. So where are your parents from?
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48pan Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:57 PM
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8. Is WASP Ethnic? NT
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:02 PM
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10. I often wished I had been.
We were so average, lower middle class, white bread boring that I often wished I had something truly unique but to be unique in my family was not considered anything good. I made myself unique finally but still, I often wish I had grown up in a somehow blended family. I did seek out friends who were different, it caused a lot of trouble in my family but it was always so interesting to me to learn different things from people who were from a different background. Sorry to jack your thread. :hi:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:17 PM
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11. No problem.
Your insights are interesting.

:hi:
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:39 PM
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15. My parents both immigrated here in their teens/early twenties
They're Italian, and spoke Italian at home. Unfortunately, by the time I was born (youngest child) they stopped speaking it all the time (I guess so we wouldn't have trouble with English in school), so I didn't grow up really bilingual. I would like to speak Italian better. I'm proud of how they made me aware of the culture they came from, and brought here. :hi:
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:46 PM
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18. My mom was born in Colombia
My dad in Virginia. I was born and raised in Miami, learning to speak both languages at an early age. I still have plenty of family in Colombia, which I will visit over the holidays.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:48 PM
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21. I'm jealous!
Edited on Sat Dec-18-04 05:48 PM by Cuban_Liberal
I would love to go to Cuba, and see my abuela! Felix Ano Nuevo, amigo!

:hi:
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:00 PM
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22. Feliz ano
Colombia is beautiful. I've been going there for years. But having grown up in Miami, I have a special fondness for the Cuban culture. My goal is to go there as a photojournalist once Castro dies.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:02 PM
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24. May he go to Heaven soon!
:toast:
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:00 PM
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23. Native American would probably be considered ethnic
:shrug: Oh, the irony...

My Uncle raised me for a large portion of my youth. He is a traditional Native American elder. I spent a good part of my youth on different reservations throughout the country (from New Mexico to California). I have been to many traditional Native meetings.

As a mentor, he always stressed the importance of walking in a good way. He also taught me the tools for survival in the dominant culture: the culture of greed.

In other words, he is not one of the Native people who assimilated to Christianity. He retained the traditions through much adversity.

So, yes I was raised on an ethnic home - by those who have always been here. :)

At my core are certain key ideals that have been passed on to help me survive, stay true to myself, and live in a magnanimous way.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 06:03 PM
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25. Awesome!
:hug:
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 07:27 PM
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26. Does Jersey City Count?
I think during the 50's and 60's it was it's own little world.--Couldn't grow up more ethnic than that.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:37 PM
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29. By that first criteria - I was
My parents weren't born in the US.
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