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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:33 PM
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Gross misconceptions/CW about your ethnic group or gender.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 06:34 PM by Cuban_Liberal
I'll start: "Those damned, dirty Mexicans/Cubans/etc."

My grandmother's, mother's, aunts', greataunts', cousins' and sisters' homes are so clean you could literally eat off of any flat surface therein, except the floor--- and even the floor, more often than not. This holds true for virtually every Hispanic home I've ever been in.

Next?

:hi:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:39 PM
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1. Clean, maybe, but lazy
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 06:40 PM by skygazer
Just kidding - that's one I hear all the time and it never fails to amaze me. Here in California, the hardest working people I see are all Mexican. They do almost all the landscaping, a lot of construction, not to mention working in the agricultural fields. I hate generalizations and stereotypes.

I'm pretty white bread myself (English/Irish on my dad's side, Italian on my mom's) but I'm from New England and people think of New Englanders as unfriendly. We're not but we do tend to be rather reserved and we don't waste a lot of time with small talk. We're always ready to help out a neighbor though and we have a good, if dry, sense of humor.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:41 PM
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2. There's that one, too.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 06:42 PM by Cuban_Liberal
It always cracks me up (better than getting :grr: ). If they're so lazy, why is papi working 2 jobs, mami 1, and most of the kids p/t after school, if they're older than 10? Somehow, that fact never seems to register with some folks...

:shrug:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:06 PM
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10. because people have short memories
and seem to forget that the wealth of our nation was, and still is, built on the backs of those at the bottom of the ladder

first it was the slaves, then it was the irish and other immigrants, now it's mexicans and other hispanics/latinos

USA! USA!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:59 PM
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43. that's because they're "lazy" AND "they take jobs away from us"
I actually heard a guy say this once. I thought that he must be using irony, since those two statements contradict each other. Alas, he wasn't.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:46 PM
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3. That Germans want to take everything over and are on-time
When, in reality, all we want is to take over almost everything. There are some things we don't want. :-)

But we are always on-time. The real Germans, anyway. Same with the Swiss and the Japanese.

I like a punctual people.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:36 PM
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26. I'm German and I'm TAKING OVER this thread.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:57 PM
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34. Punctuality is an important virtue
Not being punctual is a disgusting combination of sloth, self-indulgence and being inconsiderate.

It is being inconsiderate because you are wasting someone elses time.

It is being self-indulgent because you grant yourself permission to disrupt others

It is slothful because you could be on time with very little effort.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:17 PM
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36. And that's why only the Germans, Swiss, and Japanese are on time
:evilgrin:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:57 PM
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41. MAybe I get it from my family's German side, but I never heard of late...
Swedes either.
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Droolian Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:47 PM
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4. That Scottish people are cheap or miserable.
And that people from Edinburgh are cold and unwelcoming. It's not true, dammit!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:56 PM
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32. Aye, Ah kno wha' yer sayin, laddie...
Tha' Scots aer an unhappy lot. T'ain't a bit 'a truth tu it!

:thumbsup:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:52 PM
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5. Ah, and you said gender too
Do you have all day?

Let's see, that all women like to shop. (I hate it)
That women don't drive well.
That women are not interested in working on engines. (Love to)
That women are incapable of doing jobs like construction. (Worked construction for a number of years along with many other non traditional jobs).
That women naturally know how to take care of children. (We just learn on the job)
That women are all afraid of mice and spiders and snakes. (My husband squeals like a girl when he sees any of the above and I have to go and get them. Not afraid of any)
That all women want to be married.
That women can't shoot pool. Or guns.
That a woman can't do the things I've listed without "losing her femininity" (ask my hubby)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:30 PM
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22. I hate shopping too
That and enjoying science, sports, having career ambitions, and not being highly domestically inclined is proof to my evil mother-in-law that I am really a lesbian. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with being a lesbian. That was one of reasons that his mother gave to my husband though that he shouldn't marry me. She has also said that multiple times and seems to hate me for those reasons.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:54 PM
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6. indians are conservative
my grandmom was a judge and a feminist...what was yours?

typically shuts people up!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:00 PM
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7. Let's see
We wear horns
We control the money of the world
There's a secret plot to put a Jew in every political seat
We are short tempered
We are all high-and-mighty
We killesd Arafat
We're responsible for 9-11

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:03 PM
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9. don't forget
you guys control hollywood and the media too
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:05 PM
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46. and don't forget "stingy"
I used to date a Jewish guy who is the most non-materialistic person I've ever met. (Actually, on that we were quite compatible -- our idea of a good time was eating homemade sandwiches in the park. We were both such cheap dates -- contrary to the stereotypes about Jewish and Japanese people.)

He was always broke from giving money to people who were in need. (I picked up this bad habit from him, too.)

One day I caught him surfing a neo-nazi website. He was laughing hysterically and saying, "if only I really WERE in some giant incredibly wealthy and powerful international cabal -- maybe then I could get a decent-paying job!"



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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:03 PM
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8. i'm not always drunk
or looking for a fight

that's only on the weekends

"tell that mick he just made my list of things to do this weekend"
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:09 PM
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11. Being a WASP, it's gotta be the "bigot" name.


I always feel like apologizing.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:09 PM
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12. Asian women and sex ...
I thought I had heard everything -- that we're completely submissive and therefore highly desireable; that we like to tie people up before having sex (I don't know how that squares with the prior statement); and that there are, ahem, significant anatomical differences ... but I'm still amazed when I hear some of the claptrap (if you excuse the expression) out there.

Not really surprised to hear that George W. Bush, in his younger days, had been keen on visiting Poppy in China so he could try out some of the local women. He's just that type of guy. But I have heard some otherwise-sensible, educated people repeating all kinds of bizarre misconceptions.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:19 PM
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15. I'll never forget when Alec Baldwin said that Chinese
ladies have sideways vaginas! It was on a SNL skit about when the US plane was shot down over China. I thought I would split a gut! Sideways vaginas! :D
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 AM
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49. anybody that thinks women from China are submissive
Anybody that thinks women from China are submissive has never met a woman from mainland China!

Now, on the other hand, that Chinese Dragon Lady stereotype... ;-)
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:13 PM
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13. That we're all in the Mafia.
And we all love garlic.

We talk with our hands. (I don't see that limited to any particular group.)

And that same dirty/smelly stereotype you cited about Hispanics was also used for Italians in the earlier immigrant days. Heck, Italians were equated to blacks back then, and we all know how highly regarded blacks were. (/sarcasm) (It's probably used for every new ethnic group that comes here.)
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:15 PM
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14. Some of those are true misconceptions about us Italians
But I do love garlic and I talk with my hands.

And yes, my grandparents have told me that when they first came to this country, they were held with little regard and treated like second class citizens.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:42 PM
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28. I talk with my hands too, but so do lots of people who aren't Italian
As for the garlic, I only mentioned it because it is just so associated with Italians that every time I tell someone I hate garlic, they say, "And you're Italian?" They're shocked. And as someone who avoids garlic, I can say that it is liberally used in food from many nations, not just Italy. Actually, Italians are the ones who use it correctly, instead of over-using it, as many folks do.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:13 AM
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50. I get that all the time
My grandfather was Sicilian, but was probably the hardest working, most honest person I knew. I don't even remember him speeding when driving...

But, every time I tell people that I'm part Sicilian, I get some "mafia" comment.

However, I do like garlic.

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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:20 PM
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16. That all Irish are drunks
That kinda pisses me off that some people really believe that and that people make jokes about it. I don't think that alcoholism is a laughing matter or something to be taken lightly.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:25 PM
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19. Or lazy or bad-tempered.
Damn Hollywood anyway.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:49 PM
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29. Same here...
or that we want to fight all the time.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:21 PM
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17. I have bad teeth
:eyes:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:19 PM
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37. You're British?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 AM
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47. Absolutely!
:7
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:23 PM
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18. I am a gay guy who HATES showtunes!!!
:P :hi:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:28 PM
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20. Me too!
:hi:

Though I'm warming to a few.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:36 PM
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27. it's cool.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 07:37 PM by jonnyblitz
I always preferred rock music (mainly punk) back in the day when I hung out in bars. It was a bitch sometimes trying to decide whether to go to the gay bar and hear cheesy diva house music or go to some punk bar. I eventually met gay punks who went to the punk bar also so it worked out. :hi:

I just never got into the showtunes, diva, cher thing. combat boots, mowhawks and "social distortion" for me.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:51 PM
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31. Agree. I'm a pretty much straight acting straight looking gay boy
If you know what I mean.

But my mom and sis love the showtunes and certain songs I have gotten to like.

About the bar scene, I like dance/house/techno music, some of it can be classified as 'diva house" but believe me I'm far from being a diva!
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:06 PM
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35. I watched that movie "Connie & Carla" last night
It wasn't that funny at all, and the stereotypes were a flyin'. Too bad, I really like Toni Collette. :-(
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:48 PM
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39. I never heard of it!!
I guess thats a good thing according to your review. I am still curious so i will google it. :hi:
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:29 PM
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21. I'm Colombian
you guys figure it out.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:31 PM
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23. dude can you get me some 'caine?
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:35 PM
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25. you mean you're NOT a drug-crazed, violent, psychopathic killer?
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 07:36 PM by Cuban_Liberal
:P
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM
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52. You mean like in this documentary....
?

;-)
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:21 PM
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56.  Great movie, but Tony Montana was Cuban
while Pablo Escobar, the most notorious outlaw of the 20th century, was Colombian.

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furrylitldevil Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:33 PM
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24. That I can't dance
Even though I really can't, it still something someone shouldn't say without getting to know me first. :)

Besides, I like creating the music more than dancing to it.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:50 PM
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30. "only homos wear womens clothes"
uh not by a long shot there buddy!
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:57 PM
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33. "Swedish women are oversexed"
That is entirely not true and it really offends me.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:07 PM
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53. I thought Swedes were suicidal?
just kidding, of course.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:26 PM
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38. "Asians are good at math and science."
True story.

Junior year in college, Macroeconomics final. In a lecture hall that could seat 600, the 150 of us were told to space out. I'm one of the first to show up and take a seat. As more people arrive, I notice that I suddenly have five or six people sitting within a chair or two of me.

I know why they're sitting so close. And honestly, I couldn't really blame 'em. I mean, if you're gonna choose somebody to cheat off of in an Econ final and nobody's got a slide rule in their shirt pocket, I guess I was a viable second option.

Only problem was, I suck at math. I was lucky to pull a C- out, and that's with a lot of guessing. Bet my Econ fan club was surprised...
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:50 PM
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40. Norwegians are thickheaded; i.e. Ole and Lena.
And Minnesotans of Norwegian descent walk around in parkas and boots all the time, going to lutefisk suppers, patting each other on the back and saying "You betcha!"

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:57 PM
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42. mmmm Lutefisk
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:01 PM
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44. Canadians don't say aboot
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:01 PM
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45. Jews are rich...
I am Jewish and FAR oh SO FAR from being rich....

I don't stand to inherit any money so I don't think I'll be rich in this lifetime.

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:49 AM
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48. I'm a blond Southern female over 40 who's never been married, no kids!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:50 AM by NoSheep
:dunce:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:15 AM
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51. I'm part Polish
And, I'm usually not that dumb.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:16 PM
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54. not all swede-americans are from the town near Lake Woebegone
to the Garrison Keilar fans out there.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:21 PM
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55. Gay people are promiscuous slutty hos
That one definitely isn't true for me and my partner. We've had a monogamous relationship for 10 years.

I'm not naive enough to think that there are no slutty gay men, but I also work with several women at my office who are into the whole sex in the city lifestyle thing.

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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:50 PM
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57. "Mexicans are lazy". My grandfather had four jobs for nearly
50 years. He has just now retired, because of health problems, at the age of 70. Everyone in my family works their asses off, with the exception of me. I'm the laziest Mexican I know.
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