What the hell is wrong with these damn kids today??

[dolo amber]

Maybe I'm just getting old...but lord have mercy if this is what passes for *HOT* these days... :scared:

This is the singer of my 14 yr old's fav band, AFI (which stands for "A Fire Inside...how *emo*. :D)...Anyway, he makes her wee heart go pitter-patter, and I think he looks like the evil spawn of John Kerry and Marilyn Manson. :o

Oh, his name is Davey Havok...oy. :eyes:



(I must say in her defense, I was terribly attracted to Dave Vanian of The Damned at her age, who in fairness ain't no prize either. :D)

[Phillycat]

1. That first picture is a guy?

[dolo amber]

2. A homely guy, no less

:D

[SteveIrving1]

87. What janesez said

[motely36]

95. That was my first thought.

I really thought it was a woman

[Cuban_Liberal]

3. Did they have an ink sale at the tatoo parlor, or something?

:wtf::puke:

[jonnyblitz]

46. the more tats the better IMHO.

I am getting there...

[demnan]

4. He's a good looking guy

at least he would be with the short hair and without the tattoos. What is it with kids getting these tattoos? My 18 year old niece has covered her pretty shoulders with this shit.

[Phillycat]

12. Excuse me, I'm 32 and have a lot of tattoos.

That they are ugly is YOUR opinion.

[mark414]

16. word up

i only have 2...but that's only because i can't afford more

there is almost nothing hotter than a tattooed female, especially if she's got some intricate color work...especially on her hips

man i used to date this girl who had these two big lotus flowers on her hips....oh man i'll be right back

[JohnKleeb]

83. They can be great looking on a girl

Ive always wanted a celtic cross one on my right shoulder.

[furrylitldevil]

20. Ladies with tattoos are dead sexy

Tattoos, died red hair, piercings...mmmmmm...piercings...

[Guaranteed]

34. 32 and still saying "hookups"....

And listening to Porno for Pyros...:evilgrin:

[Phillycat]

38. Porno for Pyros?

[Guaranteed]

39. Oh, come on now...don't be shy...

[Phillycat]

42. I don't understand what you're talking about.

Are you thinking of Jane's Addiction?

[Guaranteed]

58. No, I'm not.

But, fine, be that way.

[jonnyblitz]

45. i have lots also.

DUers, I have found, don't like tats all that much. they get NASTY...

[mark414]

47. it's kind of funny that way

people on here preach tolerance and acceptance and all that...

but then a subject like tattoos or hip hop music get brought up and people take the gloves off and don't look back....

*sigh* oh well

[dolo amber]

50. For the record, his tats bother me not at all

It's more the horse-faced goth thing that makes me say :wtf: in relation to him being supposedly *dreamy*...:loveya:

[mark414]

65. i know, it's all good

i was just speaking in general...sorry if you took it as directed towards you..it was not in the least

[jonnyblitz]

59. NO SHIT!!!

one DUer even started a thread (and I paraphrase) 'Do you think people with tats and piercings are freaks?" and the overwhelming response was pretty much yes.. :shrug:

I find many DEMS (not lefties but DEMS) to be just as culturally bigoted as people on the other side. I can understand aesthetically not liking stuff but to go out of the way to get snarky with people who do..geesh.

[0007]

88. Haven't heard a peep here so far!

[Susang]

91. That's pretty ridiculous

Considering that I know quite a few DUers outside of cyberspace, have visible tattoos, and have had no judgments or bigotry towards me by any of them.

Perhaps you should get out and meet some of the people you are judging before you make the same blanket statements you are accusing them of.

[DS1]

82. Probably not in person though, I'd imagine

[TyeDye75]

67. Well said

Im hoping to get my first tatoo with whatever money I get over christmas

[Metatron]

5. Is that Prince in the background of the first picture?

(I also thought he was a she!)

[Magrittes Pipe]

9. Yeah, that's Prince.

Prince could kick Davey's ass. PRINCE, FFS. In a fistfight.

[Metatron]

Prince could kick most anyone's ass.

He's a tough little bastard - especially in his high heeled boots.

[Phillycat]

13. Cover of Prince's Lovesexy album, if I remember correctly.

[Magrittes Pipe]

19. You FOOL! It is CLEARLY "Parade."

:P

"Lovesexy" features a nude, reclining Prince on the cover.

[Phillycat]

21. GOOD GOD, YOU'RE RIGHT.

*hands in "biggest Prince fan ever" credentials, walks away weeping*

[Magrittes Pipe]

26. His Purpleness cringes in disgust at your shame.

[Blue-Jay]

6. It could be worse.

At least she's not mooning over Justin Timberlake or someone else equally nauseating.

[mark414]

7. that's a pretty bad picture of him

i have a lot of female friends who go nuts over davey havock

part of it is that he's got the whole lead-singer-of-a-band-they-love dynamic going on, but the rest is that, especially in person, he's a good looking guy, and i say that as a straight male

edit: and AFI is definitely NOT emo...anything that could be remotely called so was around back in the 80's and early 90's...it is a dead genre, if you could ever have called it a genre to begin with

[skygazer]

8. The second guy is wearing Seinfeld's pirate shirt

What a trendsetter that guy is!~

[terrya]

10. Nooooooooo...I just don't see it.

Of course, tastes vary wildly.

But this gay guy just doesn't see the attractiveness of Davey Havok. And I've spent the better part of 30 seconds looking for it. :-)

:hi:

T

[peekaloo]

11. Is his singing so wretched that he has to plug his own ears?

Or maybe he's doing that "lalalalalala" thang so he can't hear ya diss him.

[MsAnthropy]

14. Compare them to Bobby Sherman and David Cassidy in my era

If it's one thing pre-pubescent girls go for is feminine men!

[furrylitldevil]

17. Or Leif Garrett

Or however the hell you spell his name.

Anyone who swooned over any 80's buttrock band member and are condeming this guy should be ashaimed of themselves. YOU know who you are!

[loudestchick]

96. I resemble that remark!

[hickman1937]

15. Why do I feel like i just

stumbled into a clot of geezers? This thread sound like my dad and his friends in 1967.

[dolo amber]

18. Get off my lawn, ya little bastards!!

:P

[hickman1937]

24. And cutcher hair!

[Phillycat]

27. And pull up your pants!

[Simon Le Bon]

22. I ,of course, am much hotter.

;)

[Phillycat]

23. OH MY GOD, I had such a crush on you when I was 15!!!!

I'd probably still give it up for you if you sang "Rio" to me. :evilgrin:

[Simon Le Bon]

28. Hmmm,

your affections at 15 would have been better directed at Pete Townshend. :evilgrin:

[Phillycat]

32. Ewww, Pete Townsend is so gross.

Not only not cute, but a child molester to boot. :puke:

[Simon Le Bon]

41. I always thought he was cute,

but I was over 20 before I became aware of him! No chance for me :cry:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

49. More likely vice versa

[Simon Le Bon]

51. LOL!

You are so funny chaves! :) I like you a lot!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

54. And I've been a fan of yours since I was 7

:toast:

[Simon Le Bon]

57. Silly!

LOL!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

60. No doubt - Planet Earth - what were you thinking?

Maybe - "I'm a bloody genius" or "I'll build a fortress of cash"?

[Left Is Write]

40. But not as cute as Nick Rhodes.

:D

[dolo amber]

43. Or John/Roger Taylor

I could never choose...:cry:

[Phillycat]

Yeah, John Taylor was the major hottie of the group.

[loudestchick]

97. OOOOOHHH! John taylor!!! *throwing panties on the stage*

[Spacemom]

25. I think Davey is kinda hot

And it's no worse than me having a crush on Joey Ramone. Yes, Joey Ramone. :loveya:

[redqueen]

29. You are now officially a geezer.

:toast:

[dolo amber]

30. There's probably some ingrained

biological thinking-young-rock-guys-are-cute clock that goes off at some point...I think it'd be far creepier if I admitted some of them that I *do* think are sorta hot, but are probably like 20 or something, no? ;)

[redqueen]

31. No!

That would simply cement your geezerdom! Lusting after people considered 'too young' for you is par for the course in geezerland - go for it! :P

[hickman1937]

52. How about lusting after

someone who is younger and dead. I still think Kurt Colbain was the hottest thing since Jim Morrison.

[XNASA]

33. My 14 y.o. son is really into a band from Finland called H.I.M.

I've seen them live a couple of times now. Both times I took my son and his friends. I was unimpressed, but to each his own.

[StoneCold513]

36. I'm more of a Metallica fan...

...my favorite song being "Sanitarium (Welcome Home)"

[PittPoliSci]

72. His Infernal Majesty.

Good name, not to good of music, they have a few okay songs.

[XNASA]

75. They put on a good show......

And the singer, Wille Vale, whatever his name is, has great stage presence, but.....

A cover of "Solitary Man" and "Wicked Ways"?????

To his credit, Vale worships Iggy. It could be worse. My son could like ICP.

[Susang]

86. Solitary Man is one kick-ass song

Don't you forget it. }(

Just because Mr. Diamond became a ridiculous characture later in his life doesn't mean he didn't pen some fantastic tunes when he was in his prime.

Geez, next thing you know, you'll be dissing The Shat. :eyes:

[XNASA]

93. Oh, I like the original......

I'm just referring to the fact that after a few years of touring, H.I.M. is still relying on a couple of throwaway covers to round out their set.

I guess they must figure that they are crowd pleasers so keep playing them.

:hi:

[PittPoliSci]

99. lots of very successful bands play covers.

and lots of terrible bands don't. I guess it's really what the people are in the mood for. I play covers cause it's fun. Some people don't because they're "too serious of muscians" whatever that's supposed to mean. Honestly, who doesn't like hearing a song everyone knows the words to every now and again at a show?

[BOHICA06]

35. Difference between this guy and Michael Jackson ...

and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, is he wears TWO gloves for no apparent reason!

That's a lot of ink to fade, bleed, and sag.

[progressoid]

37. Yep, you're a geezer alright.

The wife and I have this discussion often. I have to constantly remind her of her boisterous youth, kids raging hormones, and their lack of common sense because sometimes she's a little too puritan when it comes to our children.

Of course I don't have to worry because our 14 yr old isn't ga ga over some creepy tattooed freak! ;) Have fun with that. :)

[jonnyblitz]

44. the guy has some nice "sleeves" (arm tattoos)

:thumbsup:

[StopTheMorans]

56. i like that you have to put "sleeves" in quotes

Hi Jonny :hi:

[jonnyblitz]

62. I started the outline on my left "sleeve" last week!

it goes from my shoulder to my wrist! I have four more sessions until completion. :hi:

[StopTheMorans]

64. awesome, can't wait to see it

i have none, but you definitely make up for me :D

[Magrittes Pipe]

48. You're only as old as the people you feel.

Words to live by.





Oh God. :cry:

[dolo amber]

53. Hi Grampa!!

:hi: :7

[Magrittes Pipe]

55. I fear I am about to start smelling like Vick's Vapor-Rub and mothballs.

:scared:

[RevolutionaryActs]

61. Oh come on, you must admit he has this whole naughty rocker thing..

that is very sexy!

[dolo amber]

63. Well, he does look better

when photographed through a wide-angle lens...and with the last 8 feet of his chin cropped out. :D

[dolo amber]

66. bah

nevermind...I did it wrong. :silly:

[dolo amber]

68. Corinne would like to defend herself and her rubbish taste

Everyone, say hello to my 14 yr old, Corinne. :D

(Also, this is a pic of Davey with short hair, looking decidedly less like a horse-faced goth boy.)

Rin:

whatever, my rubbish taste...SHE likes Russ Feingold... now if that's not rubbish taste. darn.
by the way... i don't like Davey... at least, not for his looks. he's got an amazing voice, in my opinion. i could care less what he looks like. A.F.I is not the type of band who're supposed to look good... they're there to MAKE MUSIC for us little depressed emo kids who get beat up at normal school then have to go to an alternative school (hint hint!)and Jade (the one in the pic with the guitar)is so much hotter than davey, if i care about that sort of thing, he's also a wicked awesome Guitarist too...
so that's my opinion, and i have refrained from cursing at my mother's request. i love afi!

[Magrittes Pipe]

69. "Jade" is a girl's name.

And Davey looks very ill in that picture. I suggest he visit an internist.

[dolo amber]

70. Wasn't there a Jade on General Hospital?

I mean, you would know, right? :evilgrin:

[PittPoliSci]

71. dave vanian rules!

and he looks like a 50's greaser now. which is awesome, complete with pompadour.

as for AFI, i like their old stuff. I hate them now, cause the last 3 CDs were really awful, almost so that it taints their old stuff. I made a joke to a friend that Davey now looks like the singer from Creed.

[Carson]

73. The funny thing is, if this guy weren't famous

your daughter and her friends would most likely giggle and point if they saw this guy at the mall.

[PittPoliSci]

74. i liked him a lot better when all he wore was tight black leather

and had a devil-lock like danzig (misfits era). now he looks too much like the singer from Creed for my liking.

[amazona]

76. yeah he's plain all right

If I remember my teen years right, it is probably more about what she is hearing than what she is seeing.

[DS1]

77. Nice gloves, O Princess of the Dark

:eyes:

[CarbonDate]

78. Nothing, you old fuddy-duddy....

Sorry, that's my reflexive response to any complaint about "these kids today". :P

The dude's ugly, no doubt. Still, kids have funny tastes, as you know from your own childhood celebrity crush.

[Boswells_Johnson]

79. I have to laugh at the music, because the bands present themselves

like rebels, but when you hear them play, it's nothing but bubblegum music on distorted guitars. They look like they have "attitude", but are really just lame.

[CarbonDate]

80. Kind of like KISS

They acted all bad-ass and had their wild outfits, but their music was actually tamer than Bon Jovi's. To be fair, though, I only know one KISS song (and hate it).

[Boswells_Johnson]

81. LOL...one is all you need to know!

Unfortunately, I had friends who liked them. Bon Jovi, too. *Barf*

[tjdee]

94. Thumbs up on KISS...

Ooh, look at me, I have "blood" on my mouth, I dress all mean and scary and cute, lookie me!!!

Oh PULEEZ. I want to rock and roll all night and party every day?

How hardcore. :eyes:

[mark414]

100. have you heard AFI?

most of those bands...i agree

but they don't sound like that and that's certainly not how they present themselves...

[Bridget Burke]

84. The same thing that was wrong with us!

(I'm even older than you!)

[Susang]

85. Nothing that wasn't wrong with us

Adults have been asking "What's wrong with kids today?" since Aristotle (and probably before).

Remember when the guy in the photo beside Mr. Havok was the most frightening thing to come along to Tipper Gore? "Darlin' Nikki" was the song that inspired the creation of the PMRC, remember? ;-)

[dolo amber]

89. I should've ended my original post with

/crumudgeon

;)

I really don't think there's anything *wrong with the kids today* that, as you say, wasn't wrong with us. I just wanted to give Corinne crap for liking Davey the Horse-Faced Goth Boy. :D

(You gotta admit that's one unfortunate lookin' lad. x()

[Susang]

92. Google his name

He's not half as bad looking as you think he is.

[FDRrocks]

90. Davey stood on my face once....

Ah, that was cool.

[Az]

98. Pffff, you got nothin

This is what passes for sexy in Japan right now.