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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:27 PM
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A brief statement about religion.
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 07:27 PM by NightTrain
FUCK RELIGION!!!

Thank you.

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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:28 PM
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1. Does RELIGION have a nice ass?
If so, your idea may have merit.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:43 PM
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11. Man you shoulda seen the ass on the xmas I saw at the deli today
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:28 PM
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2. Laughs ...
Lookin for some quiet and thoughtful discussion are ya ?
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:30 PM
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3. Am I alone in thinking it's an outdated way of keeping people in line?
I think we can all think rationally enough to know that eating undercoocked pork is a bad idea without having some omnipotent being that will punish for eternity as a motivator.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:31 PM
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4. You're not the only one.
I also think there's an element of truth to that.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:32 PM
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6. Don't want to be misunderstood. I have spiritual beliefs as well.
I just think the dogma is unnecessary in an educated society.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:38 PM
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9. Yeah, that's fair
The aspects of religion that are currently being pushed are all the wrong ones. Instead of peace and tolerance, we're fed violence and hatred. "Religion" itself isn't really the problem, it's the fact that religion relies on interpretation, and those in charge of the interpretation don't always have their congregation's best interests in mind.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:43 PM
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12. I agree with that
I was watching the daily show and Stewart showed a clip of Robertson criticizing Kwanzaa, hey Pat talk about the part of the bible where Jesus helps the folks out instead of pooing on others.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:32 PM
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5. It's not a way to keep people in line really
Not for me at least, it's just part of who I am. I don't seek to convert anyone, its just a part of who I am as I said.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:36 PM
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8. The right-wing knows it.
And they are using it, and it still works.



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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:59 AM
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18. I believe that is the point of it. to keep people satisfied with
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:00 AM by jonnyblitz
their pitiful lot in life with the promise of a better afterlife if they just shut the fuck up, accept their mere pittance and obey authority.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:01 AM
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19. Its not really about control
Control has become a symptom but that is not its core. Its like saying a virus' is about controling the human population. Not really what its about.

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:35 PM
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7. In the words of Ian Hunter
From a great song called "God"
"There’s no religion - you did that - it helps to keep your little leaders fat
Like faith ’n superstition stay - to help you pass the time away"

God:

God said to me gonna kick your ass - ’cos all you do is ask ask ask
All that energy looking for me when I’m sitting here inside you - plain to see
How I built you cell for cell gave you sights to see - gave you tales to tell
Even let you help yourself for a while - to take some weight off this busy child

I said to God I found you out - I know what this world is all about!
God said stop - don’t scramble your brain - my opponent’s been messing you around again
See him and me are enemies and we play little games for galaxies
And he’s inside you - ’n I am too - so here we are - just the three of you

Oh we made mistakes - too many cards - but making human beings can be hard
A God gets tired of playing so much chess - he wishes his God would get him out of his mess
I said to God what’s it like to die he said it’s as plain as the sea and sky
Conception was him and me and you - when your batteries fade we all just move on

I said to God who’s winning this game - is the devil in front he said is that his name
You know I’ve been so busy I never asked - I never looked up from this awesome task
I said to God what’s good ’n bad he said it’s just something you’ve got to have
It don’t mean nothing to us up here - but your primitive people - you gotta have fear

I said to God do I think for myself he said I told you once you just help yourself
Don’t forget you’re composed of three, your thinking comes from him and me
I said to God how big are you, is there a religion - is it true
How big’s the universe - is time - the same for you as my life is to mine

God said if all the things that made worlds float - were all to part - then you would note
The size of him and the size of me - and that’s how big we both shall be

He said the universe is small - just like some fortune-teller’s ball
And we both sit down - and we play the game - when somebody wins it all starts again

There’s no religion - you did that - it helps to keep your little leaders fat
Like faith ’n superstition stay - to help you pass the time away
But when you talk of time and life - it makes me think of circles, heights
Expansion is the clue - your dreams - are nearer than you’ve ever been

You see my little toy to think - is from two bowls of wine to drink
Don’t take too much or you may drown - behave yourself - see you around...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:42 PM
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10. My god can beat up your god.
My god lifts weights and stars in "B" movies.

Yes... My god is Steven Seagal. I DARE you to affect a more menacing mumble.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:44 PM
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13. Oh yeah? My god is Shaquille O'Neal.
You wanna talk about mumbling? My guy ALWAYS sounds like he's got a mouthful of marbles. Beat that, little man.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:57 PM
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14. The god of mouth-marbles is Ozzy.
Shaq can't compare with that.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:59 PM
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15. well my god is umm some very pretty girl, yeah, beat that!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:59 PM
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16. Concise. I like that.
And I agree.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:52 AM
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17. oh come on now
Tell us how you REALLY feel.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:01 AM
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20. Typically its the other way around
Religion tends to do the dominating.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:47 PM
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21. Mind you, I said "Fuck religion," not "Fuck spirituality."
I believe in differentiating between the two.
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