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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:09 AM
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Boycott Foie Gras!
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 01:09 AM by Placebo
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:11 AM
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1. Can you tell me what I am supposed to be boycotting?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:12 AM
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3. I did put those two links there for a reason...
they ain't just for show.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:14 AM
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5. My eyes go bed past midnight, just give me a synapse
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:16 AM
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6. Force-feeding geese.
Being mean to geese is apparently a bad thing.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:18 AM
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12. I always thought they were bastards when I was a little kid
I always wanted to get in a fight with them.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:26 AM
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13. Yeah, I get back at them by eating their livers...
:evilgrin:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:28 AM
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14. perfect revenge
:evilgrin: Really though, I hated those punks as a little kid, I always wanted to fight with them.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:17 AM
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7. Ugh, here...
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 01:20 AM by Placebo
Although the literal translation from French is "fat liver," foie gras is the term generally used for goose liver. This specialty of Alsace and Perigord is, in fact, the enlarged liver from a goose or duck that has been force-fed and fattened over a period of four to five months. These specially bred fowl are not permitted to exercise, which, combined with the overeating, creates a huge (up to 3 pounds), fatty liver. After the bird is killed, the liver is soaked overnight in milk, water or port. It's drained, then marinated in a mixture usually consisting of Armagnac, Port, or Madeira and various seasonings. The livers are then cooked, usually by baking.

Birds are routinely confined to small cages or crowded pens.
Birds are force-fed tremendous amounts of feed via a 12- to 16-inch plastic or metal tube, which is shoved down their throats and attached to a pressurized pump.
The force-feeding may be performed twice daily for up to two weeks for ducks and three to four times daily, for up to 28 days for geese.
Force-feeding causes the liver to increase in size about 6-10 times compared to the normal size for a bird.
Increased liver size forces the abdomen to expand, which makes moving difficult and painful. An enlarged abdomen increases the risk of damage to the stretched tissue of the lower part of the esophagus.
Force-feeding results in accumulated scar tissue in the esophagus.
The liver can be easily damaged by even minor trauma.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:18 AM
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10. It's not lazyness, I am practically blind in my right eye
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 01:19 AM by JohnKleeb
Thats some cruel shit, I must say what they do. I don't eat french food or whatmacallit ever, so I can boycott easily.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:17 AM
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8. Fattened Goose Liver Pate is a cruel process!
They force the poor geese to have diseased livers because those make really good pate!

Sick. Sick. Sick. Sick.

Compared to this, stunning and killing beef cattle is actually kind.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:11 AM
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2. Sick stuff...
...Have you seen this yet? http://www.themeatrix.com/
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:14 AM
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4. Yup...
but foie gras is especially sick. Forcing water tubes down their throat, making their livers super huge, the little cages. Sick, sick!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:18 AM
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9. Yeah, kind of reminds me in the Meatrix thing, where....
...the chickens beaks are cut off to keep them from fighting each other. Of course, when they're couped up like that, how could they not fight? Corporate Agri-business is sick shit.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:18 AM
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11. I didn't know that foie gras is produced through causing sickness in ducks
I thought it was natural. Good thing I've never eaten the stuff.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:29 AM
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15. Yeah, I'm torn on the foie gras. It's really, really, really f-ing good
but some foie gras farmers are rather cruel about it.

BUT NOT ALL.

Still, it's a rather unnatural process, and my own personal jury is still out on whether it's viable for me or not. Thankfully, it's so damn expensive that it really isn't an issue anyway. I've bought it occasionally in restaurants, but never to cook myself. Too much $$$$$. So my own boycott has more to do with the cost than the real issues at hand....

but man o man, is it ever good.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:44 AM
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16. I've always thought it sounded horrible but strangely exotic....
I'll try most anything once (love snails, adore truffles, hate calimari and gag on most liver).

I'll definitely try it at least once, someday, just for the experience. Then, my partner will make me feel so guilty I'll never have it again (at least when he's around!).
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:46 AM
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17. Ooooh, so it's "OKAY" to do bad things if no one will know? You sicken me.
:P
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:25 AM
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19. I am so sorry to disappoint you.....
And-in reality-I'm a terrible liar. I've never been able to hide anything from my partner because he knows me too well. It was a joke.....

Its just my opinion, but I really think you may be over-reacting (just the tiniest little bit) to my post. It really was kind of a throwaway line, not meant to indicate my deepest moral values or an overall attitude toward humanity.

But in the bizarro world that is DU today, I'm not surprised.

BTW, its your value judgment that pate is evil, not mine, and I'm under no obligation to share your values. I've never eaten the stuff, and I have no immediate plans to, but I don't like preachers telling me what to do. I sleep with the gender I like, drink the alcohol of my choice, and eat what I damn well please. If I wanted a spiritual leader, I'd go to church, not an internet message board.

And, BTW, I've been reading what you had to say for quite some time and have enjoyed your comments. Not quite sure what brought on tonights outburst, but hope you have a happy holiday.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:39 AM
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20. I hope you know that I was joking!
Hence the ":P" after the comment! No hard feelings?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 03:37 AM
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22. Man. I've had a great time clearing up my misconception by
pm's with you. DUers are much fun.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:48 AM
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18. I am, admittedly, a total liver lover
chicken, beef, pork, whatever... I love liver. Could eat it every day.

YUM!!!

So I had no qualms about trying the foie gras (except for the knowing of how it is made). And I was utterly blown away by how sensuous the texture and the taste are. It is AMAZING.

if not for the price, and the obvious health problems, I could sit down for handfuls of it at a stretch...it's right up there with other foods I could eat every day, like heavy-cheese pizza, ribeyes, and bacon.
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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 03:23 AM
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21. Huh? Forcing something on someone
in order to get something we want from them later?
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