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Sat Dec-25-04 12:53 PM
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what in the hell did scarlett o'hara |
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see in that ugly ass ashley wilkes?:wtf:
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Sat Dec-25-04 12:55 PM
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1. the great British accent? n/t |
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:02 PM
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2. the soulful "puppy dog" eyes |
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but she was a fool for passing up Rhett IMHO
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:05 PM
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3. She fell in love with the "idea" of him and was too stubborn to give it up |
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until she was much older.
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:06 PM
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4. her taste in men was immature |
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but got better as she had more experience!
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:11 PM
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I'd be all over Rhett, myself.
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:32 PM
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6. Simple. Melanie wanted him. |
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Sat Dec-25-04 01:57 PM
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It was established in the first chapter that she could manipulate any man into doing anything that she wanted. Ashley understood the type of woman she was and that she and he would be a horrible mismatch. He had the strength of will not to give in to the desires of his passions, therefore she could not command him. And like the spoiled bitch that she was, she wanted what was outside her grasp. She was a huntress and he was a trophy.
When she finally gets Ashley she discovers that she doesn't really want him after all.
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Sat Dec-25-04 02:48 PM
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9. I don't recall her actually "getting" Ashley. However, either of the |
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gentlemen would work for me, they are just different types. None like that around these parts.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:15 AM
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23. Toward the end. When Melanie dies. |
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She has a free field to go for Ashley. Rhett is angry and leaves so he won't be in the way. Then she realizes she does want him.
They also have one passionate kiss after the war during the period while everyone, (except Rhett) is living on the plantation. Then Ashley remembers that he is married and stops.
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Sat Dec-25-04 02:03 PM
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8. I beg your pardon. While I don't particularly care for the character.. |
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I think Leslie Howard was divine. As I think all British actors are. :P
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Sat Dec-25-04 06:09 PM
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And for the record, Clark Gable had disgusting breath from his cigars. Vivien Leigh hated doing love scenes with him, as would I.
I think Leslie Howard was adorable. Too bad he died so young.
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Sat Dec-25-04 11:23 PM
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22. fell in love with LHoward the first time I saw him |
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in the 50s there were lots of old British movies on TV.....he was in The Scarlet Pimpernel and a WWII-setting remake.....and a movie about aircraft factories......and a movie from a Helen McInnes book in which a British couple goes to Europe in the late 30s or early 40s to try to stop a major Nazi plot
Howard was on the plane that was shot down near Spain.....the plane could have been warned, but the warning would have revealed that the British had broken the Nazi's code; I think there was an American female singer or actress on that plane as well
it took me a very long time to 'forgive Churchill' for that decision!?!!??!
wasn't Coventry bombed for the same reason? ie, taking the planes out would have revealed that the Nazi code was broken???
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Sat Dec-25-04 03:49 PM
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10. She wanted hin cause she couldn't have him. |
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Sat Dec-25-04 09:40 PM
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21. thats what I always thought |
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she would have tired of his weak ass self in a heartbeat if he had committed to her.
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Sat Dec-25-04 03:59 PM
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11. He's a symbol of the doomed South |
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clinging to a way of life that was vanishing. Meanwhile, the wily Rhett was a profiteer who came out of the war ready to build his empire. But Ashley was the plantation owner who lost it all and was adrift in the new post-war structure. Scarlett was like Rhett, a survivor. But she yearned for Ashley's romanticism. And Souterners still do. Never mind that the harsh reality was that most Southerners lived on small farms, not plantations. And those plantations that did exist, did so at the expense of slave labor. Slaves had their families split apart, weren't educated, and were worked into early graves. Many Southerners, like Scarlett, pine for a mirage. That moonlit, magnolia scented South is a dream. The reality was inhumanity, poverty, and exploitation.
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Sat Dec-25-04 04:06 PM
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12. Leslie Howard was the choice to play the unattainable Ashley because |
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he was the Jude Law of his day, the British actor that women swooned over.
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Sat Dec-25-04 05:07 PM
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13. that's exactly who he reminds me of |
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Sat Dec-25-04 05:51 PM
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14. I swoon over him. Handsome, in the classic sense? No.. |
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Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 05:53 PM by Kahuna
But there's just something about his manner and vulnerability. Plus, If we got into a fight and I needed to kick his ass, I probably could. :evilgrin:
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Sat Dec-25-04 05:57 PM
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15. As is always the case with movies versus books |
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Ashley had a lot more depth in the book. GWTW was a book that was custom made for a miniseries - however, it came out long before the mini series (or television, for that matter) came into being.
The movie leaves out so much of the book that it's really just a bare outline. Never particularly liked it but enjoyed the book while still recognizing its absurdity.
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Sat Dec-25-04 06:10 PM
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They completely left out Will Benteen, who was a pretty major supporting character.
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Sat Dec-25-04 09:24 PM
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18. Yeah, and her first two kids. |
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Sat Dec-25-04 09:34 PM
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19. He was the "Romantic Liberal" who knew Slavery was wrong...he was |
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Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 09:34 PM by KoKo01
appealing to her "better nature" which only won out when she saved "TARA." The rest of the time Scarlett was like Rhett...an opportunist.
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Sat Dec-25-04 09:35 PM
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20. His slightly effeminate Southern charm |
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