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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:08 AM
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effect vs affect............discuss
n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:10 AM
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1. Affect connotes an emotional effect.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:11 AM
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2. both can be nouns; both can be verbs
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:13 AM
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3. I get them mixed up all the time!
:(
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:13 AM
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4. Thank god for grammar check
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:18 AM
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5. If you use the grammar check in Word,
it never catches that.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:23 AM
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9. Thank god my boss doesnt know that
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:19 AM
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6. Not sure if I'm right. This is how I think of them.
Affect starts with A, effect starts with E. So affect comes first. That makes sense, as attempts to affect something creates effects.

Is that anywhere even close? :D
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:23 AM
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8. unless you are a direct agent: e.g., you "effect change".
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:22 AM
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7. From "Woe Is I."
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 10:22 AM by RebelOne
If you're referring to a thing (a noun), 99 times out of 100 you mean effect. If you mean an action (a verb), the odds are just as good if you go for affect.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:25 AM
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10. The general rule
Affect is a verb; effect is a noun

America has been adversely affected by Bush.
Bush has had a terrible effect on America.
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:25 AM
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11. Affect donates an action..effect donates a reaction...at least I think
that is how it goes...
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:25 AM
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12. When it comes to grammar
all I can do is cut and paste.

Usage Note: Affect and effect have no senses in common. As a verb affect is most commonly used in the sense of “to influence” (how smoking affects health). Effect means “to bring about or execute”: layoffs designed to effect savings. Thus the sentence These measures may affect savings could imply that the measures may reduce savings that have already been realized, whereas These measures may effect savings implies that the measures will cause new savings to come about.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:52 AM
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13. i guess that's a valid topic for discussion,
given the declining quality of education, and given that dictionaries would be one of the first things not to buy when one is short on income.

but then perhaps DU should have a seperate forum for English education.
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