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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:10 PM
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When A British Pop Singer Sings... Where Does The Accent Go?
Well... sometimes I can detect an occasional *trace* of an accent... but most of the time it just seems to completely disappear. Same thing for singers from down-under.

Why?
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:11 PM
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1. I've wondered that too
But then again, I've also wondered where the white goes when snow melts.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:11 PM
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2. it goes to Billy Joe Armstrong.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:12 PM
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3. hehehehehehehehe
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:37 PM
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4. LOL!!!
nice one :)
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:50 PM
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5. The Scorpions are German but sing in English.
Whats up with that?
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:51 PM
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6. Okay, the German language; spoken in five small countries.
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:52 PM by Aristus
English: spoken all over the world, in the most massive, lucrative record markets.

That's why.

here endeth the lesson.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:53 PM
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7. It's the other way around.
Think of how rare it is for an American-accented singer to enunciate the R's, for example. Michael Stipe is one of the few exceptions I can think of.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:53 PM
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8. I can always tell the difference between American and British singers.
The accent doesn't go away, it just changes.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:46 AM
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9. they lose it cuz rock is AMERICAN, baby!
I've often marveled at that, too.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:57 AM
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10. My theory...
When one breaks out into song, they are in fact speaking in a completely new language of universal musical tones rather than the standard language they are used to speaking with.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:09 AM
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13. Partially true
accents can and do exist in music. Think 'Mr Fair Lady' and the whole cockney versus R.P. idea.

In my (very very limited) experience most pop-music is sung with a mid-Atlantic accent. Most English singers switch to it as soon as they sing in the style of pop-music - irritatingly this includes church congregations which sing modern songs.

If I can venture off the strict topic, one of my biggest bug-bears is the Latin accents in classical church-music (though the Tallis playing at the moment is done well in that regard).
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:58 AM
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11. Billy Bragg doesn't lose his.
:)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:04 AM
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12. this is so zen
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:32 AM
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14. Mainly because they grew up mimicking American rock/pop stars
If you want an accent in your British music, listen to the Pogues. "Sunny soid udda street".
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:04 AM
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15. It goes through the exchange rate and is devalued......
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:10 AM
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16. It goes into a hole in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Which is working itself up into a tsunami.
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libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:19 AM
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17. I have wondered if they think we sound like we're singing all the time.
?
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:21 AM
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18. Into an American punk singer. n/t
;-)

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Medium Baby Jesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:50 AM
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19. Well Golly!
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:53 AM
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20. When Jim Nabors sings, where does Gomer Pyle go?
I was maybe 3 or 4 when my family went to Hawaii and saw him perform. I was SO disappointed, 'cuz they told me we were going to see Gomer Pyle, but there was this paunchy dude in a decidedly non-military outfit singing some kinda opera-sounding crap. :mad:

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:54 AM
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21. It gets caught between the teeth
;-)
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bobbobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:00 AM
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22. my vocal coach tried to explain this to me once...
it has something to do with the way words need to be pronounced while singing to make it sound melodic
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:05 AM
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23. Yup
It has to do with the British accent lending itself naturally to proper enunciation when singing.
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