Just Saw Bowling For Columbine: I Am Now An ANGRY White Male!!

[matcom]

disgusting!

FUCKING DISGUSTING!!!!

a GREAT documentary but FUCKING DISGUSTING!!

i fear we cannot fix this bullshit. i fear we must wallow in it x(

oh fuck..........

[Deja Q]

1. WE are THE PEOPLE of the United States

Damn right we can fix this shit. Otherwise we're as controlled as the people in communist russia.

The United States isn't a fascist state yet. Not quite but corporations are moving us in that direction.

It's time to change.

WE need to change it. And WE need to wake THE PEOPLE up.

Now to find ways to get my own jingoism into positive effect.

[dkf]

2. Haven't seen it yet.

What in particular are you talking about?

[HEyHEY]

3. I just want to say

I like Moore, but his depiction of Canada was bullshit - to a degree.



Ther's a real Canadian ghetto, I couldn't find a better pic.

[Maple]

4. I found his

depiction of Canada very accurate. I never lock my doors..don't know anyone who does.

PS...that is a parking lot semi-torn down, not a ghetto.

[HEyHEY]

5. No maple, that's a ghetto

That's the view from the Woodwards squat. And are you telling me you don't lock your doors at night, or when you go out? I sure do. As for the pic, a huge per cent of East Van resembles that, burned out unused buildings everywhere..poorest postal code between Canada and the US

[HEyHEY]

8. Look at it this way

Ever been to East Van? Now think about East Van compared to what Michael Moore said was a Canadian Ghetto.

Even Regent Park would have been a better choice.

[dutchdemocrat]

14. I spent some of my childhood in New Westminster BC

I spent a portion of my childhood in New Westminster BC, and we left our doors unlocked when we went on holiday.

I used to leave my bike in the front yard unlocked... it was never stolen. It all seems strange now. But we were never robbed.

The old man was a Dutch 'hippie' (mum was an Canadian of Irish/English/Metis descent) and did not want to live in a world of fear - our summers in BC were spent in a good ole' VW van bashing down trees to find lost gold mining towns and the nature that enveloped us. Which has now been hacked away as much as possible.

New Westminster was a great place to grow up in - with it's rich history as the first capital of British Columbia, founded by 'sappers' as the British Royal Engineers were nicknamed - it's box and field lacrosse history... though Salmonbellies was a rather curious name for for a team, The New Westminster Salmonbellies are one of the oldest sports franchises in North America. The team has a rich, proud and winning tradition in Canada.

Part of my childhood included that raw sweaty smell of Queen's Park Arena with its dull green wood floors and all the fireman and policemen of the town playing a game they loved for nothing.

It's a sensory memory thing. It's like a Neil Young song for me. I am far away from there now... but I will never forget those days of freedom. Far away from newly projected iris scans and fingerprinting at the border. Far away from frenetic Faux News lies, far away from the sometimes "unreal" world of the internet which sometimes consumes our lives.

Nice to linger in history sometimes...

Thanks.

[HEyHEY]

15. Here it is today

http://www.city.new-westminster.bc.ca/photo_gallery.htm#

Take a gander...I don't know how long ago you lived there, but I have a feeling it's changed!

[cprise]

7. A couple grafitti/unpainted walls and 6 sq. ft of trash?

Is THAT the closest you can come to Detroit, DC, LA and a long list of ex-industrial towns?

And a place may even be a ghetto, but that doesn't mean it's desperate.

[HEyHEY]

9. Hey I said it was a bad pic

But it is a shitload worse off than what Moore showed

[HEyHEY]

13. Aha...a photo of Urban Vancouver that will make you sick with disgust

[Supply Side Jesus]

10. compared to american ghettos

that looks suburban.

Seeing that part gave me hope that maybe one day we won't have to lock our homes in fear of the boogey man.

[HEyHEY]

11. Well that area in the pic

Has the lowest income per capita of any place in the US or Canada, and also has the largest open drug market

[Lady Freedom]

19. Wow thats down town Joplin!

Looking at that is like looking at my home town!... I need to move.

[DS1]

20. good point, there are plenty of places in the US where doors are unlocked

all the time. No country is totally rosy, except Holland, which you can't see for the smoke anyway :7

[liberalmuse]

6. I was angry and sad after seeing it.

After Moore pointed out how Americans are kept in a constant state of fear, I was a bit depressed and sorry for us all. Moore made the Canadians seem so laid back and happy-go-lucky. The gun culture in this country is pathetic. It's guns, not The Constitution, not freedom, that makes many Americans feel empowered. Sad, sad, sad.

[realFedUp]

12. but how did you feel about Lawrence of Arabia?

:-)

[flama]

16. I've got this to say about that

It took me almost a month to get the nerve to ask my larger-repuke-half to buy me "Bowling for Columbine." (I'm partially unemployed if that makes any sense. A fine advertisement for a "Roger and Me South" I'd say.)

It took another two weeks to watch it while he was in the house. It was his suggestion and he hasn't seen such enthusiasm from me since he offered me some chocolate truffles.

He was disgusted, too, Mat. He loved the film and hated what he saw. He's looking at the world through different eyes now.

I watch "Spy Game" on TV whenever I can find it. (Doesn't Brad Pitt sort of remind you of a young, tough Robert Redford?) My larger half, code name Furry Murray, watches it with me when he's around. He usually looks at the scenery since he's been to Berlin and somewhere around Langley. (Somehow in his travels, he missed the pleasures of Beruit and Viet Nam.)

Well, "Spy Game" was on the day after we watched "Bowling for Columbine." Furry Murray caught the dialogue this time. He'll never be the same.

I got just what I expected from BFC. We live in a violent country and I was appalled, not surprised, when cops and metal detectors started showing up in schools.

Charlton Heston's five words may be "from my cold, dead hand," but he's not running around holding rallies after school shootings any more. (Is he?) I hear he can barely walk and definitely can't comply with that other bumper sticker - gun control is hitting what you aim at.

Michael Moore usually hits his target dead center. He certainly did with "Bowling for Columbine" and if I were a member of the "Academy," I would have voted for the film - and voted twice for his acceptance speech.

I'm waiting for his new book to come out on Tuesday. Or was it last Friday? His email said Tuesday, October 3. I know the 3rd was on Friday because my daughter had a birthday on the 3rd.

[LWolf]

17. I've got the dvd sitting here in the pile

of junk next to my computer. Should I watch it? Or should I pass?

I don't want to lose hope.

[jenm]

18. It's powerful

You'll be glad you watched it. I don't think it's hopeless at all.