Squonking wild free jazz thread- are you scared now?

[tigereye]

Ornette! Sun Ra! Braxton! Art Ensemble! be-bop of all descriptions ! Parker! Coltrane! Modern Jazz Quartet! Mingus!

feel free to add more!

I did pledge room phone call taking on Saturday for our local NPR jazz station. It was a lot of fun. But I fear they are in danger of not having a younger fan base for jazz in the future, since they play very conventional jazz ( not Kenny G, but only the old school, some cool-school, some 20s, etc.) I really wish they would play some of the newer and older! more challenging artists ( Don Byron is about as challenging as they sometimes get, and that's cool - he is wonderful). But they could be attracting folks that listen to college radio for a much broader range of jazz and folks that love challenging jazz. I just don't get it.

[Withywindle]

1. AACM! Roscoe Mitchell! Ken Vandermark!

I live in a GREAT free-jazz town.

[tigereye]

5. where?

Roscoe Mitchell. Cool.

[Withywindle]

10. Chicago

I don't think he lives here now, but he used to. Still plays here frequently.

[tigereye]

17. ah yes

people keep telling me I need to visit Chicago, and I should. There was a great NYT article a few weeks back about the avant jazz scene there. Drool.

[Withywindle]

22. Yes, you should!

Check out the Velvet Lounge and the HotHouse and a few small semi-private venues...


Hey, is that a Robyn Hitchcock sig quote I see? :thumbsup:

[tigereye]

24. yes I am a Robyn freak of sorts

thanks.

well, maybe I need to put Chicago on the spring agenda.

[mark414]

2. Dolphy! Schepp!

[tigereye]

6. Hey Mark

you have more interesting tastes than I realized. Caught you in the Eno thread a few days back. Eric Dolphy is awesome!

[mark414]

9. heh thanks

i mostly listen to hip hop (the GOOD stuff) but part of that is because i grew up on jazz (thanks dad) and i also discovered a great number of lesser known bands and artists on the internet while a bored high schooler

my desert island disc list is ALL over the place

[tigereye]

12. I thought you were really young -

that's the problem... people assume that those under 30 or even 20 are not interested in jazz. I mean, I'm fairly young compared to most of the jazz nuts at the radio station I was talking about out. Most of them saw jazz maturing first hand in NY or on the West Coast. Not that someone really young couldn't like really great jazz, though! One of my old bandmates was only 17 when I met him and he was really savvy even then.

[mark414]

13. ah you thought right

i am but a mere 20

like i said though, got a savvy dad (and a cool older brother to boot)

[tigereye]

16. actually some of the coolest people I have met lately

are 20 -30. That makes me feel very hopeful for the world and for music awareness! I suspect my son will have wonderful taste then, if what he is exposed to now ( you name it, Beefheart, Beatles, Ramones, Tuvan throat singing, wild Indian house music, Reggae, Don Byron), etc. is any indication!

:thumbsup:

on edit, Tuvan, not Tucan!

[Rabrrrrrr]

3. Don Ellis!

Pat Boone!



Just kidding about Pat Boone.

[tigereye]

8. Pat Boone

that's pretty good Rabrrrr. Boone in an alternate universe could have been squonkin.

[Rabrrrrrr]

20. Yeah, gimme some of Pat's "free whateverthefuckmusichedid"

HAHA!

Imagine Lawrence Welk on acid with an accordian and his dancers doing a 45 minute atonal solo on "Bicycle built for two".

[tigereye]

25. uh I once saw Solid Gold when I was taking mushrooms

that was extremely scary. Wonder if it would be like that. :scared:

note to the uninitiated, mushrooms and tv do not mix. Stay in the woods. ;)

[ralps]

4. Candy Dulfer, George Duke, Fourplay, Bob James, Hiroshima,

Diane Schuur, Hugh Masekela, and Ramsey Lewis are some of my favorite jazz performers.
:hi:

[tigereye]

7. not quite as squonkin'

but very good performers. Not familiar with Dulfer... I really like High Masekela. :hi:

[tigereye]

11. too bad Chavez is busy jamming somewhere

I'm sure he would have a comment. Hi Chavez, wherever you are!

[RetroLounge]

14. Sun Ra Story...

Back in the late 80's I was walking around downtown Milwaukee, who knows why, I don't, when I walked over to Cathedral Square, and some music fest was going on. So I bought a beer and heard this out-of-control sqonking and jazz riffing and walked over to see Sun Ra and his Arkestra just blowing away dumbfounded Milwaukeeans who are used to Polkas or Steve Miller.

Very sureal moment.

RL

[tigereye]

18. ah SUn Ra

he's still out there somewhere - he only left the planet. ;)

I saw him in NYC at the Village Gate, I think, and he was so great. He walked around the room and then sat in my buddy's lap. That was a great show!

there seem to be a lot of cool music folk in MIlwaukee, as well.

[DrWeird]

15. I'm sorry, but jazz "music" isn't really music.

It's degenerate and it's thuggish and it's hypersexualized and it's way too loud and it makes me want to tap my foot in the most alarming fashion.

[tigereye]

19. you are silly!

:thumbsup:

uh, oh, were you just visiting one of those "other threads", by any chance?

[Rabrrrrrr]

21. I agree. It makes me want to touch myself in taboo areas, like my

upper thigh.

Once, while listening to jazz, I exposed my ankle to a group of teenage girls.

Jazz really needs to be banned.

[DrWeird]

23. Not to mention it's just plain lazy music. It's probably on welfare.

and it's on drugs, and if it has kids, it probably abandoned them.

[tigereye]

26. I am shocked. Just shocked.

dig those crazy beats, man. I'm like gone, daddy, gone. Get wailin.

[miss_kitty]

27. I see no mention of John Zorn OR

the World Saxophone Quartet-Am I in the wrong thread? I thought 'squonking' had been mentioned...

[tigereye]

28. no, I almost put the WSQ down

John Zorn in all his incarnations is a great addition!

[miss_kitty]

31. I try not to listen to Spy vs Spy when driving

to rambunctious!

[asthmaticeog]

29. BORBETOMAGUS!

NRG ENSEMBLE! THE FLYING LUTTENBACHERS! NAKED CITY!

OK, I'll stop shouting now.

[tigereye]

30. damn you don't have to yell, Ron. I'm not deaf.

That's what I was talking about earlier. Post some damn links, or send me some files, so I can get with the program. And I'll send my man out to look for some. ;)

all right. I looked up the first one. Here's the link, so people can be informed. http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=borbetomagus

and here's one for you. Actually your pic kind of looks like this guy ( cept you're a lot younger and have more hair!), and you would really like his ensemble's stuff, I suspect.

http://www.dirtyhat.com/records/thoth.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/~vze4fks9/

my new saying. "Light a candle. Don't curse the darkness." :)

[asthmaticeog]

32. Ah, links, yes...

Flying Luttenbachers: http://nowave.pair.com/luttenbachers/
NRG Ensemble: http://centerstage.net/music/whoswho/NRGEnsemble.html
Naked City is a John Zorn thing.

[tigereye]

33. yeah I knew about Naked City

God, like we don't have enough music in this house already. Oh, no, more to seek out.

Thanks! Were these folks you used to host in your club? Also I really think you would like Opek, in one of the links I listed before.

[asthmaticeog]

34. The Luttenbachers played there a few times.

Borbetomagus came and went before our place got going, and NRG ensemble were too big for us to get 'em even if we'd wanted to. We got some of Ken Vandermark's other projects, though, which was a real treat.