Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Latin phrase help please!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:28 PM
Original message
Latin phrase help please!
Homo ex machina--Man out of/from machine?

Deus ex machina--God out of/from machine?
" A contrived or artificial solution. (literally, 'a god from a machine')"?


Please help me out with a contextual explanation. My googling experience has been unsatisfying. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:31 PM
Response to Original message
1. Don't know about "homo ex machina".
But I think the deus ex machina is actually a theater term.

You get stuck in a really horrible plot point, and suddenly the plot complication needed to fix your mess drops from the rafters ... some god or another descending from the heavens in some sort of a contraption. A "machina".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Your right...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
2. In some classical plays,
all the problems were solved by a God. You could tell the actor was portraying a God partly because the actor came in from above -- lowered by a mechanical contrivance of some kind. Thus, Deus ex machina.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yes, ...long ago
in Greek and Roman theatrical productions there was a tradition of having a God decend in the last scene to fix all the woes and set the world right again. The 'Gods' were rigged to descend via mechanical workings. It generated the term "God from the Machine" to mean any last minute delivery not expected or otherwise forshadowed in a work.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:33 PM
Response to Original message
4. from what I understand from my Latin teacher
the second one is like in a movie when the problem solves its self. I have never heard of the first as a phrase... I sent her an email so I will have more info later for you if you don't get anything else...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Thank you.
I'll check back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. In context, the God from the Machine was not just a standard
plot-device; it was a cop-out. The playwright got himself into a fix, couldn't think of a plausible conclusion, and just let the gods take care of the situation.

It's sloppy writing, and lazy thinking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 08:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC