What's better? Macs or computers?

[Goldmund]

[hobbit709]

1. What

no abaci?

[Goldmund]

2. Good point -- if I included Macs, I may as well have included abaci

[jody]

3. I like Macs particularly Big Macs, king size French fries, and

a strawberry shake?
:hi:

[stepnw1f]

4. Actually Apple Donates to Dems

And oh.... it is a computer.

Nice try.

[FloridaPat]

5. It should depend on which one your friends have. If you want advice

and free software, get the one that the most people you know have. I have the PC. I think I have met 4 Mac users in my entire life.

[jmatthan]

7. Now you just met 15!!!

eom

[intrepid_wanderer]

30. FREE?? you slipped and meant to type theft!

(If you're at all honorable or honest!! that & don'tgo through life rationalizing..)

Man am I in a bad mood... sorry.

[driver8]

40. You must not get out much...

I use a Mac and a PC at work, and I have a Mac at home. I love using the Macs and hate using the PC piece of crap.

I know a lot of Mac users -- they are all diehards and would never think of switching to a PC.

[leftyandproud]

6. DU is so far out of the mainstream it isn't even funny

This poll proves it. :)

[realisticphish]

8. Which is better, a corvette, or an impala?

same choice :shrug:

also, if you're going to randomly attack macs, at least be CREATIVE about it. we've all heard that one a MILLION times

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Goldmund]

9. LOL, sorry, I'll make it easier to clicky-dragy next time

[realisticphish]

11. clicky drag?

so you don't use a mouse? i'm guessing you use DOS as your main operating system, so i commend you for your loyalty. incidently, i can also use UNIX whenever i feel like it, which doesn't even have a mouse.


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Goldmund]

12. what are you, some kind of a vegetamarian or something?

[realisticphish]

15. nope

a gun-owning, meat eating, metallica-listening, football and hockey loving college student.

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Goldmund]

17. I will NOT use "sarcasm" tags no matter how much I'm pressured to!

[realisticphish]

18. lol

i know you were sarcastic, i live in the lounge for god's sake. just responding in kind ;)

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[driver8]

41. What's better? A Mac or a paper weight that looks like a computer?

That would be more appropriate for the poll, I think...

[gmoney]

10. Love my Macs.

But I feel no need to bash PC users. To each his/her platform.

[Glenda]

26. How many macs to you have?

I have 2 macs and 2 pcs. I let them duke it out :D

[gmoney]

31. One at home, four at the office, tend to others for friends

Just got a new Mac Mini at the office... pretty sweet. Just set my Dad up with a new iBook, and he totally loves it, especially being wireless.

Use the computer you like, or that you can get supported...

[parasim]

13. It's about time Macs are differentiated from mere "computers"

S'funny, I've got both a Mac and PC and I often find myself referring to the PC as the "computer" and I just call my Mac a Mac.

The word "computer" to me brings up the thought of the many headaches I get trying to irradicate the daily viruses I get on the thing, constantly having to reinstall stuff, losing all my data when the harddrive crashes, etc... Whereas when I think "Mac" I think of the device that allows me to get information at my fingertips, get my work done in a timely manner, create music, make videos, play games, etc...

[realisticphish]

14. LOL

:thumbsup:

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Stop_the_War]

16. Macs ARE computers, silly!

[Anarcho-Socialist]

19. The highly advanced...

...Commodore 64. :)

[driver8]

42. I love my Radio Shack TRS-80...

Isn't that what those things were called??

[Deja Q]

20. The mac is a toy. The ipod is an environmental joke.

And I'd have to spend $3500 on a Mac for what I could spend $1500 on a PC for (video capture and restoration)

And I've made enough posts on the environmental atrocity known as the ipod... let's just say that a certain so-called environmentalist on the director's board has lost my respect. Apparently, as a politician, it's paying lipservice to righteousness. As a company exec, it's about the cheapest way to make the biggest profit. Universal law, that.

[gmoney]

23. I'll bite. What makes iPod environmentally worse than other MP3 players?

I know computers in general are a problem, especially disposal of old ones, etc. Why would an iPod be worse than MP3 players from other makers? Or other PCs or transistor radios or old cars or cheeseburgers?

[parasim]

25. I wondered the same thing...

... so I searched for HT's posts on the evil iPod and found a site he cited here:
http://www.computertakeback.com/

Where I certainly agree that huge corporations need to address the recycling problems inherent with consumer electronics, I doubt that Apple is that much worse than anybody else in the industry. It seems that the reason Apple is targeted by this group is because they were chosen in a poll for the supporters of the effort.
http://www.computertakeback.com/campaignpoll.cfm

Apparently the computer take back site already successfully persuaded Dell to change their ways and they are now focusing on their next target, which is Apple. Good for them.

However, I couldn't find anywhere on the site where it speciffically said the iPod itself was any worse or better than other MP3 players, though. But I haven't spent a lot of time checking out the site yet so...

On the one hand, I'm surprised that they aren't going after a larger player in the computer industry, like say, IBM, which, according to the "list of grievances" they cite for a half dozen or so companies, "has a long history of causing major environmental pollution as well as serious occupational health problems for its employees throughout the U.S. and around the world." Why target a relatively small company like Apple?

On the other hand, maybe targeting them is better. Everybody already knows that when Apple designs something, the rest of the industry bends over backwards to copy it.
I agree that Apple should step up to the plate and lead the industry in the recycling of their products and innovate with enviro-friendly design, much like they lead the industry in user-friendly design. If it did so, perhaps they could change the industry in that way too.

Of course, these comments are based on a very short time spent researching the "environmental joke" the iPod apparently is. As I am a staunch Apple supporter, this news bothers me and I'll be digging much deeper to see for myself how bad Apple indeed is.

--

As for the battery thing, yeah, Apple's approach isn't something that I really like but, when the battery of my 5GB iPod conked out, I simply bought another one online, which came with simple instructions and replaced it. It still is working like a charm.

[baba]

43. I would never throw a computer or iPod in the trash.

If you don't want it any more, pass it on to someone who needs it.

[Wonk]

32. (hears crickets, and not on my mp3 player)

Hey hypnothermodynamictoadguy, cat got your tongue?

Want me to dig up some of your "why doesn't my latest personal favorite flavor of unix support this particular brand of hardware" posts from the archives?

How much technoshit have you simply disposed of after it didn't satisfy you, speaking of being environmentally friendly?

[Awsi Dooger]

27. Another thrilling and brilliant anti-Apple post by Hypno Toad

Let's see, I bought Apple stock at $13+ in the mid-'90s and sold it at $147. Eventually it went to $157.

Then after a split and a dive in price, like all techno stocks, I re-upped again at $13+ a couple of years ago, and I welcome anyone to check out where it is now. This is the simplest handicapping I've ever done in my life, predicting that Steve Jobs and Co. will come up with superior ideas and products to the blinders-on PC simpletons.

I consultant Nevada sportsbooks and have to slum into their world several times per week, dealing with PC crap and its bloated code. It's beyond laughable.

Yeah, let's use video to demonstrate how superior PCs are to Macs. Hey Hypno, the Monty Python thread was a few days ago.

To demonstrate how clueless PC users can be, the other day I contacted my Cox Cable technical support after having some trouble with my cable modem. I told the tech woman immediately I used a Mac. After she took my info and put me on hold, she came back and asked what version of Windows I used. I politely repeated I use a Macintosh. Then she put me on hold and came back with this genius; "Are you on DOS?" At this point I became a little edgy and told her it was the third time I said I'm on a Mac. Her response -- "Do you use Windows '95? Or '98?" I'm dead serious. This was a computer technical help woman who had no clue Macs use a different OS. You can search the entire Mac-using universe and not find anyone that igno.

[Ellipsis]

28. I'd love this toy

http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/colsa/

[Lydia Leftcoast]

21. Yawn!

I've been encountering computer geek macho for nearly twenty years.

"How can anything that user-friendly be any good?"

Yeah, yeah. It all reminds me of translator geek macho, in which some translators put down other translators for using Japanese-English dictionaries instead of Japanese-Japanese dictionaries. As if the client cares.

Some of us actually want to get our work done. By any means necessary. That's all that matters. :-)

[Goldmund]

22. You wanna take that outside?

[TreasonousBastard]

24. Yeah, I figure...

I can get the work done in 3/4 or less of the time on a Mac when you account for all the care and feeding the PC requires.

What do I do? Some spreadsheet stuff, the usual online stuff, and vast amounts of text editing and layout. WordPerfect is my workhorse.

Everything I do with WordPerfect Office seems to be doable with iWork and Appleworks. With much less hassle.

And Opera, Mozilla, and Eudora are available for the Mac. That leaves precious little but games and fun utilities like WeatherPulse for the PC.

They can argue forever about which is "better" but best for me is what gets the work done.

It's kinda like the old Ford-Chevy debates. Whatever gets you to there is fine.

[Elidor]

29. I like them both

Macs for their seamless interface, easy networking, and superior OS-and PC's because they're dirt cheap and have more software. I use them both every day, at work and at home. Each has its place.

[Spider Jerusalem]

33. The Difference Engine, of course.

Only problem is keeping the damned thing oiled.

[TyeDye75]

34. Return of the Mac

worst song ever

[Joe Power]

35. Looks like the PC folks were..

...too busy doing actual work to bother voting.

You bunch of hobbyists. :evilgrin:

[DoYouEverWonder]

36. I can do anything you can do on my PC

for cheaper and just as fast.

I use Photoshop on both platforms, with very large files and with the rig I've got at home, I can cream any Mac.

[Goldmund]

37. Not only that, but...

...I've got a thing or two to say about this whole "PCs are cheaper". Well, that depends how you look at it. Check out Alienware ALX desktops, you can configure those suckers up to 8 or 9 grand or something. And in general, you can easily blow 5 grand on a PC. It's just that what you'll get will outperform any Mac out there.

[DoYouEverWonder]

38. I set up my system

for about $1500 and I've got two 120 gig harddrives, plus 1 Gig of RAM. It's the fastest system I've ever had.

I used to only buy Dell but then I switched to E Machines (I know people put them down) but I have had no problems with the ones I've bought and they are a lot cheaper than Dell.

[MrScorpio]

39. Macs are the best for porndogs

Shareware, spyware and viruses just bounce right off

[baba]

44. No viruses or spyware on my Mac.

Plus, it never crashes. I love my Mac.