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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:48 PM
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DU Group Proposal: Hip Hop
i'd like a place where hip hop fans can talk about it without being...shall we say, criticized...?

anyways, anyone interested, sound off here
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:49 PM
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1. You're white!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:50 PM
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2. the fuck's that supposed to mean
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:53 PM
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4. Nothing, just pointing it out
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:54 PM
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5. eh well you're a racist
just pointing it out
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:55 PM
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8. You're the one biggoted against Canadians
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 06:09 PM by HEyHEY
Racist.

AS well as planning on stealing more music of African Americans and then, no doubt, taking credit for it years from now.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:56 PM
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10. ok
:thumbsup:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:40 PM
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17. Stop your Genocide against the Fracophones, you hoser!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:47 PM
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20. Hoser? HOSER?
Well, the gloves are off now aren't they?

You yanks know nothing of us or our ways!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:48 PM
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22. BTW what does "hoser" mean!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:49 PM
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25. No clue,
Isn't really a Canadian word, people just assume it is becuase of Bob and doug
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:55 PM
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32. If you don't know what it means, then how can it mean the gloves are off?
Is there just some kind of generic definition that it means "a very grave insult"
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:56 PM
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35. It's really more of a zen thing.
I felt the tone.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:53 PM
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28. Also, I am outraged by the lack of outrage over Quebecs oppression in...
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 06:54 PM by JVS
our own backyard.

Someone says free tibet and everyone nods in approval.

Sensitivity on this board about the issues concerning Ireland and Northern Ireland is so high that it nearly made the formation of an Irish discussion group impossible.

But try to get people active on the horrors going on to the North and nobody will lift a fucking finger for brother Pierre and sister Margaux
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:55 PM
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31. Cause nobody really cares about Quebecois!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:56 PM
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34. Hence my outrage! It makes me so mad!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:54 PM
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hey - that's funny.
I'm white too.







Weird.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:59 PM
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12. We can discuss Snow, and other seminal white rappers (nt)
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:03 PM
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13. ermm
no
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:40 PM
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16. You're Canadian and yet you come sniffing around forum about US politics
FLQ baby! Death to the Anglophone oppressor!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:44 PM
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18. Ah!
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 06:46 PM by HEyHEY
I used to get this all day at school. You know nothing of our culture and lands.... if we don't oppress the french, they'll opress us!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:48 PM
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21. The Quebecois have proven themselves to be peaceful and just
but the greed of the Anglophones knows no bounds
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:49 PM
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23. over 50 bombings and a dead Minister - PEACEFUL???
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:53 PM
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29. They were provoked by centuries of oppression, which they bore silently
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:55 PM
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33. So say them!
We laid the smack down on the plains of abraham...we won, they lost...TS for them.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:56 PM
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36. Oppressor! You are know better than the Americans whom you despise
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:51 PM
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27. White people can't listen to rap? Or deliberate on the lyrics?
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 06:54 PM by HypnoToad
And if you'd listen to Public Enemy and were any skin color, you'd quickly agree that they're worth listening to and talking about, as they are far more worthwhile to any society than that bleached blond brainless pompous arrogant twit who shreiked the even more brainless "Oops, I did it again" and made tons of money off of it. :eyes:

Oh, I want to dis white rappers. They're not real. That's also why Beastie Boys made a lame song about fighting for the right to party, while PE responded with the infinitely better "Party for your right to fight". (Ever been to a union or gay-rights meeting? They're more fun than a party where you go and do nothing!)
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:54 PM
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30. No, no they can't
Sorry, way it is.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:09 AM
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:14 AM
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56. Best Post Of The Day!! --- Hysterical!!
:yourock:

-- Allen
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:58 AM
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55. "chump"? welcome to my ignore list champ
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:20 AM
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59. white peopLe suck!
god, i hate them sooooo much!!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:53 PM
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3. I'm in!
Sounds great!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:54 PM
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6. great, where's sniffa
i know he's down
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:46 PM
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19. he is only on during his work hours which are roughly
between 7am thru 3pm monday thru friday. he doesn't have a pc at home. :hi:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:19 AM
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58. thanks for being my agent johnny
:D :D :D

and i'm most definateLy in.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:54 PM
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7. I Think It's A Marvelous Idea.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 05:58 PM by arwalden
I'm not interested in it... but if it would make you happy... then it would make me happy.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:59 PM
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11. Sheesh - a simple "no thanks" would suffice.
Maybe you missed last weeks attempt to discuss rap music which quickly deteriorated into a flame war? I can see Mark's point of wanting to be able to discuss rap without people jumping in with comments about it not being "real" music.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:04 PM
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14. AND have the threads not sink like a rock
thanks dearrrie :-)
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:17 AM
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57. Thanks Hon. Should I Come To You For Pre-Approval On All My Replies?
I'm sorry that this reply didn't meet with your standards. :eyes:

-- Allen

PS: It's not "real" music.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:52 PM
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:55 PM
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9. I'm in too
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:05 PM
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15. hell yeah
I'm in! :thumbsup:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:49 PM
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24. I'm hip to this hop!
Just as long as I can point out how much of a joke MC Hammer was, but I'd rather speak of how great Public Enemy is anyway. :D
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ZoCrowes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:51 PM
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26. I'm down with that
Now let's smoke some indo and play some of that gangsta shit
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:29 PM
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37. I've proposed this before
I'm there
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 07:33 PM
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38. okay we've got 7...3 more???
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:18 PM
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39. I am relatively open minded on this topic
I have even reached the point where I appreciate Eminem, to some extent. ;)
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:24 PM
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40. have you listened to anyone else?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:36 PM
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41. sure I think we had this conversation in another thread
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 11:37 PM by tigereye
Linton Kwesi Johnson, Public Enemy, Digable Planets, KRS-One, Run DMC, mostly the old school political folks, but I also like Missy Elliot, she has grown on me to some extent. Dizzie Rascal is kind of interesting. I work with a lot of African- American youth and they always tell me about different rappers. I dislike the gangsta stuff, though, too sexist and violent IMO.

but I try to keep an open mind.


mostly I am a jazz, indie and punk nut, but I like all forms of music.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:45 PM
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42. ohh yeah
sorry, i'm no good at remembering names

did you ever get a chance to listen to any madvillain? or de la soul?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:16 AM
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48. yeah I have heard some De La Soul
I like anything that is inventive. Sorry, I missed the Hip-hop group aspect of the OP, I was just jumping in there to defend forms of music in general. As for hip-hop, I should just ask Chavez, he knows a lot more about it than I do. :hi:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:08 AM
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46. Count me in
Though these days I am more into Jamaican music. A lot more exciting stuff is happening over there, imo. But, since the roots of rap are Jamaican I figure I can participate.

What happened to Bay Area rap?
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:54 PM
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43. I'm in.
:hi:
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:57 PM
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44. Count me in, daddy-o!
I enjoy a good rap tune as much as I enjoy a good song in any genre. End of story.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:07 AM
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45. Count me in also.
Right now my fav. Hip hop/rap artists are Ms. Dynamite, Black Eyed Peas, Outcast, and Public Enemy.
:hi: :pals:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:22 AM
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49. We got 10. How's this for a mission statement?
The DU Hip Hop group serves to provide a space to members to share news, stories, discussions, and general love for hip hop.

"Hip Hop means the whole culture of the movement.. when you talk about rap..Rap is part of the hip hop culture..The emceeing..The djaying is part of the hip hop culture. The dressing the languages are all part of the hip hop culture.The break dancing the b-boys, b-girls ..how you act, walk, look, talk are all part of hip hop culture.. and the music is colorless.. Hip Hop music is made from Black, brown, yellow, red, white.. whatever music that gives you the grunt.. that funk.. that groove or that beat.. It's all part of hip hop...."

- Afrika Bambaataa
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:30 AM
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50. nice
:thumbsup:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:30 AM
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51. Cool I like it
Thanks mark414
:hi: :hug:
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ZoCrowes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:31 AM
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53. Works for me
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:55 AM
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54. Groovy. I likes.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:33 AM
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60. I love it
Very nice quote!!!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:12 PM
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62. Kick
:hi:
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