Redneck doesn't necessarily equal intolerant or republican.

[Bouncy Ball]

Yeah, I know a LOT of them are, especially nowdays. But it isn't always true.

So for all of you out there who have Inner Rednecks, let 'em out! Show those repukes they don't have the corner market on it. Be proud of who you are.

I ate fried bologna on white as a kid. Probably still would.

Kool-Aid was actually quite the luxury (sugar) so we rarely ever had it. Maybe that's why we turned out ok.

I wish I could scan in the picure I have of my mom, dad, me and my brother when I was about five and my brother was three. Both of my parents are wearing "Jimmy Carter for President" t-shirts, my dad has HUGE sideburns and a lit Winston hanging from his lip, my mom has a scarf on her head because she had her rollers in. I'm wearing a dress my grandmother sewed me that looks like a big red bandana, I have a busted lip from falling off of our homemade bike (I have no idea what it was made of now), lopsided pigtails, and get this: just to complete the picture my brother's face and shirt are filthy. No matter how many times my mother spit on a tissue to wipe him off, he stayed dirty.

I once ate ketchup soup. My mom had an exhaust pipe held on with a rusty coat hanger. She had the loudest car in our suburb and we could hear her coming when she came to pick us up from school. Other kids would turn to us and say "Here comes your mom" and we'd look down at our scuffed-up shoes and mumble "yeah we hear her."

We were first generation suburbanites. One side of the family was still rural, and my mother's side had gone from rural straight to urban, then we were suburban.

My stepdad loved to get drunk and put on Willy Nelson and Tom T. Hall albums and sing loudly to them, insist that we would, too. If we were already in bed, he'd drag us up to sing "I Like Beer," "Old Dogs, Children, and Watermelon Wine," and "Whiskey River." That last one he'd turn up full blast until my mom came out of the bedroom screaming and hitting him. The police knew our house.

Then if he wasn't in the drunk tank at that point, he'd sit and cry and tell us how Jesus just wanted everyone to love each other. When I was older, he'd finish off that speech with what a "sumbitch" Reagan was. And maybe if he was particularly pissed off at "the damn republicans" he'd break a plate or two.

Is it any wonder I became a liberal?

Anyway, redneck isn't bad. It just is. And some rednecks were raised right. LOL!!!

[datasuspect]

1. ketchup soup

or mustard sandwiches.

woo boy, you brought back some memories.

like when i was in 7th grade and my parents picked me up from school in a 50s or 60s nash rambler (the "new" car they bought that day - even had an eight track!) blaring little richard (this was in 1982).

i was so fucking embarassed.

yer cool!

[xmas74]

10. My first car was a '75 pinto

with the passenger side floorboard rotting out of it, am radio only and no reverse. This was in 1990.

[datasuspect]

12. i learned how to drive

a stick in a pinto . . .

[xmas74]

15. I had a stick too.

[alwynsw]

37. 3 on the tree here.

'64 Fairlane.

[xmas74]

49. I haven't seen a Fairlane in years!

[alwynsw]

54. Finally sold it a couple of years ago.

Fully restores, but it was getting expensive to keep it up along with a couple of other hobby cars. You make the call. You gotta sell one. Do you sell the '31 A roadster, the '65 Mustang drop top with the 289, or the Fairlane hardtop with the 200?

[xmas74]

79. Wow!

You would be loved in my neck of the woods. Everyone talks about restoration around here. You would be envied.

[alwynsw]

85. Dang! I was there last spring.

another chance to meet fellow Du'ers down the tubes.

[xmas74]

93. Where were you at in MO?

I live toward KC, but am pretty close to Truman Dam (about 40 minutes).

[alwynsw]

101. Went across I-70

Made stops in Booneville and KC. (You know I had to go to the Cabela's Store.)

We stopped at a number of the wineries. It was part of a couple of minths touring around the U.S., camping at the Holiday Inn.

[xmas74]

105. so you were about 15 mile north of me at one point.

[alwynsw]

107. That's about what I figured.

Ain't Mapquest handy? 468 miles from the nearest town for me to yours.

[RubyDuby in GA]

2. Again, I'd like to say

you sound like Good People to me.

I relish the summer days when I can roll down the window, blasting the Dixie Chicks and pissing off the repukes in my area. Damn it's good to be a good ol' southern girl!

[DrGonzoLives]

3. I prefer redneck bars

You knowq, the off-the-main-drag townie places that look a little dirty and have twenty-year-old neon beer signs in the window. Where you don't have to dress just the right way and can just suck on Budweiser all night while listening to bad kareoke.

Yeah, I like Budweiser. And Bud Light. And hair bands. And Firebirds. I'd rather live out in the country than a large city.

[datasuspect]

7. texas "beer joints" rock

especially when you're a stranger.

they get iffy, but once the beer starts flowing, everyone kinda warms up to you.

[BOSSHOG]

8. My regular bar

in south Louisiana is definitely redneck but politically it is an enigma. The bush and kerry supporters were about evenly split and no quarter was given when it came to political subjects but we all get along pretty well and drink lots of budweiser and play country music on the juke box. There are a lot of union guys who hang out there but I'm the loudest antibush asshole in the joint but I don't start too many conversations. It would upset the am - bee - ance.

[Bouncy Ball]

16. I'd rather live in a big city

but I agree with you on the bars. The best ones are the dives. The VERY best bar I ever went to, I was never there as a drinking age person. My grandfather belonged to the VFW at Lake Texhoma and use to take us up there and my brother and I would play on the dance floor (with sand on it, and this was during the day), watch the old men play dominoes and listen to them "tell lies" while knocking back some Coors and smoking enough Lucky Strikes to kill a horse.

Yeah, my grandfather took me to a bar on a regular basis when I was a kid. I guess that's another redneckey thing, LOL.

[Zuni]

96. Redneck dives are often the friendliest bars in the world

there used to be this one Karaoke bar near here, it was PURE redneck. Not one woman there was remotely attractive, and very few had all of their natural teeth.

But everyone there was so NICE. And they were always smiling and outgoing. When Karaoke came one, they would hoot and holler and sing bad songs. But it was so much fun going there, my friends and I went all the time.

[Zuni]

97. that is the kind of bar I like

I don't like drinking cheap beer where people wear suits.

[DrGonzoLives]

109. Personally

I hate the uber-trendy places where if you drink anything not made by a microbrew in central Europe, you're some kind of freak.

That's another redneck thing about me - I HATE HATE HATE beer snobs. It's fucking beer. You drink it to get loaded or you're a poser.

[Zuni]

110. I only drink cheap beer

I never pay more than a few dollars for beer. I like Natural Light. All those Pale Ales, microbrews, pilsners are for yuppies.

I like my beer cheap, piss yellow, ice cold and out of a can.

[BlondieK143]

4. You can take the girl out of the South.

But you can't take the South out of the girl. :D

[steve2470]

5. Red (as in sunburned) + neck = redneck: a description

ostensibly, of a physical characteristic of Southern male white farmers, who usually had racist, homophobic and other anti-liberal ideas. They usually had high school or less educations, and were usually not worldly or sophisticated. But, from 1823 to around 1964, they were usually Democrats. LBJ, with his "librul" ideas, made them go find the racists in the Repuke party.

So, it is possible to be a modern redneck with brains and education and be a liberal too. If you work outside a lot. Or get sunburned a lot easily. Oh forget it.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. LOL, I know what you mean.

And my great-grandparents were true rednecks, working the land (a great-uncle was born in a field, for crying out loud), but much to my pride, it was discovered several years ago that they never switched parties in the 60s. They stayed with the Democrats. Made me proud to hear.

[Bridget Burke]

74. What definition points out the racism, homohobia & other

"anti-liberal" ideas?

Redneck means poor white.

[steve2470]

108. I grew up here in the South, and that's how I understand it.

It includes poor rural white Southerners.

[redqueen]

6. THANK YOU for this post.

:thumbsup:

I'm not a redneck, but I know some who definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt. :)

[xmas74]

9. I have a bit of the redneck in me.

I love to dig in my garden, so sometimes I have dirt under my nails. I have had crappy cars w/ duct tape holding them together. I spit on my finger to wash my kid's face. I have been to a street dance. I have been a on float trip, just to get drunk. I have been fishing for the same reason. I don't care for NASCAR because drag racing on a country road is much more fun. I don't hunt but I can identify how many points a buck is by its rack, without anyone telling me. I go to church when I can. I can ride a 4-wheeler. I have personally made ketchup soup for my child just so she had something to eat. I have been to a hog roast. And I have drank many cans of crappy beer in my past (usually at a fish fry). I have also driven around w/ a cheap boombox in my car since I didn't have a radio in it.
Truthfully, I think that rednecks would identify themselves with Dems more if they knew what they really stood for. Most of the people around here are not worried about gay marriage or abortion-they voted for Bush because they are convinced that Dems will take their guns away (and many said that was the only reason).

[alwynsw]

11. Proud redneck here

Thanks for the post.

You forgot mayonnaise or Miracle Whip sammiches. And I still eat collard greens, polk greens (polk salad to some), fatback, grits, biscuits and gravy, etc.

Must have gotten a bad gene somewhere. I usually listen to jazz on the CD player in my pickup truck - yes, the one with the gun rack in the back window.

[xmas74]

13. I'm making biscuits and gravy for lunch.

Want some?

[datasuspect]

14. sheeet i'm HONGRY!

gimme some . . .

[xmas74]

17. Homemade biscuits

and lots of sausage in the gravy. Sliced tomatoes w/ salt and pepper and some canteloupe that I picked up the other day. That's as redneck as you can get (unless it was deer sausage).
I wanted watermelon but it was pricey and I know it won't be sweet this time of year.

[Bouncy Ball]

21. DEER SAUSAGE!!

When I went to GOPisEvil's Superbowl party, bearfan brought deer sausage and that took me back--last time I had it was when my grandfather personally shot AND processed the deer in the 70s.

[xmas74]

52. I get offers during deer season.

Especially for deer jerky and ground deer.

[alwynsw]

63. Sinve we're in the food section:

had a fellow DU'er for company over the weekend. Poor boy was born and raised in L.A.

We fed him venison, blackeyed peas, biscuits, yellow squash with onions and red pepper, sorghum, country sausage... I wondered when he was going to stop eating!

[xmas74]

82. I need to make some blackeyed peas soon.

I plan on putting some squash in the garden as soon as I can get away with it and I always plant peppers. I have an orchard around here that sells sorghum and fresh honey-so a road trip is planned soon!

[Zuni]

95. I have eaten elk sausage

[datasuspect]

22. whoa

that sounds good . . .

[xmas74]

78. And now everyone is talking about deer.

I have some ground in the freezer. I might have to defrost it tonight and make some chili out of it for tomorrow.

[Zuni]

98. ever have moose chili?

I know a guy who had moosemeat and made chili out of it. Damn tasty.

[xmas74]

111. Never had it.

We don't get moose in this area. But it would probably be good.

[alwynsw]

115. Good stuff

Also the elk you mentioned earlier.

Thanks to Uncle Sam, I got to hunt from here to Alaska when stationed or TDY at/to bases all over the place.

BTW. If I won't eat it, I won't kill it - unless it's endangering livestock or people or damaging crops.

My little 11 acres is surrounded by farms, so I help out the neighbors by taking a few groundhogs and coyotes every year. When you figure that one groundhog can cost a farmer several thousand dollars i crop damage, well... Not to mention the numer of calves, pigs, goats, chickens, and sheep the coyotes kill.

[alwynsw]

32. Had some deer over the weekend

Think I'll thaw out some more. Got several to eat. Season was gooooood to me last fall.

BTW. Self rising flour, pinch of Clabber Girl, dollop of lard, buttermilk. Now there's some larpin' biscuits!

[Bouncy Ball]

35. Fucking A y'all are making me damn hungry.

My mother made sweet cornbread. My dad would take it, crumble it into a jelly jar, add sugar and buttermilk and eat it with a spoon. We'd sit there going "ewww!" and he'd say "Don't knock it till you tried it."

[alwynsw]

41. Did he eat green onions with it?

That was a favorite at my house with cornbread and buttermilk.

[Bouncy Ball]

43. No, this is Texas.

That would be heresy. LOL!!!

[alwynsw]

50. Y'all just ain't got the class of folks in Georgia and Kentucky. lol

actually, I've a ton of kin in the Big Thicket.

[Bouncy Ball]

53. Georgia?

Don't even!

Kentucky, ok, but don't preach to me about Georgians. LOL

My great-times-six grandfather was named Jonathan Edwards and he fought in the Revolutionary War and got some land in what is now Muscogee County, Georgia. Then he decided to see what was happening out in Mexico Territory (now known as Texas) and took his wife and seven kids and came out here in 1782.

We've never left. I don't know if that's sad or neat.

[alwynsw]

64. Ever see a cow eat a boy?

Coweta County, that is?

[Bouncy Ball]

66. The minor league hockey team in Macon is known

as the Macon Whoopie.

Seriously. When I was living in Columbus (husband was stationed at Ft. Benning), we had the Columbus Cottonmouths and when we'd play the Macon Whoopie, they'd have penny beer night. Those were the DAYS.

[alwynsw]

71. Too funny!

Did a quick search. Seems there the "EE" hockey and the "IE" baseball minors teams.

[Bouncy Ball]

75. I just looked it up, too, out of curiosity

They're still around!

http://www.angelfire.com/sports/pucks/mwhoopee.html

[xmas74]

89. Now I want some sweet cornbread.

Maybe I'll make it tomorrow with the deer chili.

[xmas74]

55. I have a recipe called Floatin' Cloud.

They are lighter than air.

[datasuspect]

58. please share?

[xmas74]

83. I only know it by site

but I will look around on Mother Earth (where I got the recipe) and see if I can find it exactly. Otherwise, I will try to measure it out next time I make them.

[alwynsw]

86. We'll hold you to it! n/t

[xmas74]

88. No prob.

I am looking around right now. I might have to dig out my old issues, though.
Mother Earth has some of the best recipes-I have found more than one good ol boy willing to read it when I throw it down at work.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/

It's my favorite magazine. It's all about country living and how to be as self-sufficient as possible.

[xmas74]

100. It;'s being sent right now!

[alwynsw]

60. Send it on! My PM's available. n/t

[xmas74]

84. As I told another poster,

I only know it by site. I will take a look around Mother Earth and see if I can find it again. Otherwise, I will measure it out next time I make it and post it up for everyone to get.

[xmas74]

99. It's being sent right now.

[alwynsw]

102. Many thanks! n/t

[xmas74]

104. No prob.

And it's really easy to make.

[alwynsw]

34. Got a bowl of leftover gravy from breakfast and a couple biscuits left

You solved my lunch dilemma!

[xmas74]

48. That's all I could think of this morning.

[alwynsw]

61. You thought well!

[xmas74]

80. True rednecks think alike!

[texas1928]

19. I am a redneck and will proudly admit it.

But I do not think it is redneck as it is more country values and ways to live.

[steve2470]

24. is your neck red ?

facetious question which you may ignore.

:wtf:

[texas1928]

29. only in the summer.

Redneck is a new cool term to Mean southern, or country. Thanks to Jeff Foxworthy, and don't get me wrong I like Foxworthy's comedy, because it rings true to my life and growing up in the South.

[xmas74]

87. In the summer it can be!

[blackcatpgh]

20. great post!

i'm a western PA redneck living in the big city (because that's where the jobs are)!

i was raised by Democrats (mine was a pro-union coal mining family), and i like to shoot rifles & pistols, drink pennsylvania-brewed beer out of 12oz cans & spend time outdoors. but i also drive an imported car, have a bachelor's degree, love to read, watch independent films, voted straight dem in the last election, and all that other "liberal" stuff that rednecks aren't generally known to do.

yeah, i confuse people sometimes.

[Bouncy Ball]

28. I REALLY confuse people.

I'm a gun-owning, Christian, southern, white (!!!), suburban soccer mom who graduated from Texas A&M and is married to a vet and from a long line of veterans and I have never voted republican in my life. If you go by stereotype, I should be a BIG-ASS bushbot.

I had a republican former friend tell me "somethin's not right with you" and I said "Yeah I think for myself and I have a heart in my chest."

LOL!!!

[datasuspect]

30. an aggie?

BOOO!

joking

i went to UT

[texas1928]

38. EEEWWW

a teasip.

[Bouncy Ball]

39. UT?

Hissssss.

Just kidding. I've got no dog in that fight anymore, the indoctrination of Aggieland wore off years ago. I was only a "good Ag" for about a year or so, then I looked around at everyone looking like robots with glazed-over eyes and thought maybe that wasn't such a good thing.

[Texasgal]

103. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

An aggie!!! And I thought I liked you!!!! :P

Just kidding!!!! Teasipper!

[texas1928]

36. Gig'Em Aggies.

Just finished a book about the history behind Reveille. It was a good book. Funny in parts and sad in parts.

[Bouncy Ball]

40. The original Reveille was a great dog.

[blackcatpgh]

yeah, i could see that confusing people!

again, great post. thanks!

[Worst Username Ever]

23. My father and I both like classic country music.

Some of the new fangles uber-patriotic stuff is crap, but not all of it.

MY car is the loudest on the block

I used to love kool-aid (the literal kind, not the repuke thought-control kind). And Jell-O.

One of my favorite places to be is my Uncle's ranch.

I like to drive/hang out with my shirt off and with no shoes. I have had to get dressed outside of a MCdonalds before because I was not wearing enough clothes to go inside.

All this, even as a white collar worker, urban dweller, wine-drinking/latte-loving lib who reads a lot of books and watches a lot of movies.

[Bouncy Ball]

31. LOL, I could relate to so much of that.

You are reminding me of a lot: jello salads, going to the grocery store BAREFOOT as a kid (ech, can't believe I did that now).

Eating boiled okra after church. Harvesting pecans with my great-grandfather in a town outside of Austin so tiny it was never on the map. There was nothing to eat and the store was too far away so we stuffed ourselves on pecans that night.

[alwynsw]

47. And... if you're old enough

you remember the .22 and shotgun shells on the shelf at the cash register. Gotta be ready for quail, dove, rabbit, and squirrel seasons.

barefoot? We didn't wear shoes in the summer except for church and going to town on Saturday.

[Bouncy Ball]

51. Oh yes, the place had guns, to be sure.

Funny, my brother and I never touched them but I don't remember being TOLD not to touch them. We KNEW they were guns and could kill us.

Huh.

We lived barefoot. God, my mother took my brother to the store in his underwear when he was four. Didn't even bother putting clothes on him. And in all the baby pictures I've ever seen, except formal ones, we're just wearing a diaper. I started wondering if we owned clothes, but I'm sure we did. I mean it DOES get cold here sometimes.

[alwynsw]

65. Dang! Are we related? n/t

[Bouncy Ball]

68. LOL I've got no people in Kentucky

but of course there is something universal about the experience of growing up poor in the south and, in my case, to parents who weren't very removed from the rural life yet.

[alwynsw]

73. Sounds almost as though we grew up in the same house!

Similar experiences - hell, sounds as though we had the same experiences - except for the green onions.

[Bouncy Ball]

76. Well, you know, if you're six years old and know all the words

to "Whiskey River," (insert Jeff Foxworthy punchline here).

[alwynsw]

81. It was Ernest Tubb "Walkin' the Floor Over You" at my house

Must be a generational thing. Whiskey river wasn't around yet.

[xmas74]

91. Jello salad.

Especially w/ the mayo in it.
And I have black walnut trees on my property-I can't keep up with them.
As to barefoot-whenever I can!

[datasuspect]

33. man, yer making my feet itch

now where is that train yard?

[jswordy]

25. ORIRIGNAL definition of "redneck"

The term "redneck" originated from the sunburn seen on the backs of the necks of people who had to work outdoors at manual labor for their money. In that day and age, NOT being tanned was seen as being a sign of being well off.

Webster: "from the sunburned neck acquired in the fields by farm laborers."

Other connotations -- noted in Webster, as well -- came later, a natural result of being looked down upon by those who felt they were better.

[steve2470]

27. see mine also. thanks for yours nt

[Bouncy Ball]

42. In the summer, my husband's arms and HEAD turns red.

So I guess he's a real live one. Especially when he was in the Army, from mid-upper arm on up, he was white, but from there down, RED.

[crispini]

26. I love liberal rednecks.

I volunteered for the Kerry campaign in Arkansas in the run up to the election and it was so much fun to sit around and talk about politics with these well-informed guys with their big ol' belt buckles and their chaws. Most of my family are rednecks, so I kinda "get it."

[Bouncy Ball]

44. Liberal rednecks are the BEST.

I'm tellin' ya. Everyone in my family was and is a liberal redneck.

Unrelated (I think), but from what I understand, my parents weren't above smoking the odd joint back in the day, either.

[steve2470]

46. I agree. Ya'll are the best ! nt

[Withywindle]

62. My friends back home in SW VA...

...some of 'em are HEADnecks.

Smoke a lot of pot. Drive pickup trucks. Live way out in the woods. Both Skynyrd fans and Deadheads. Know where to find the goooood mushrooms.

[alwynsw]

106. Sounds like they're Tim Wilson's kinda folks

...playin' Purple Haze on a dobro...

[xmas74]

92. 'Cuz it's easy to get.

Most of the good ol boys I know have something on them. We would go out on a country road and blaze up in the middle of a cornfield.
I always had fun with that.

[Bouncy Ball]

45. I forgot to add:

I was never taught to hate anyone or anything. Except the republican party.

LMAO!

So there's a big difference right there.

[steve2470]

57. I'm with ya, sister. Same upbringing here nt

[alwynsw]

70. I'm a grampa now, but I still hear this story from when I was 3

We were in Sears and I had to "go". My mom told me not to touch anything because the restroom was dirty because it was a public one.

I'm told that I shouted "If it's a public 'un and it's dirty, let go to a Democrat one."

No political training at my home!

[Bouncy Ball]

72. Oh my GOD that's a great story!!!

LMAO!!

My grandparents all voted for Carter, but one pair of grandparents had a bunch of cans of Billy Beer and my grandfather had a shirt that said something about how much he liked Billy or Billy for President or something or other.

I'm not sure if they understood that some people were making fun of Carter, but they didn't care, they still loved him. My mother cried when she watched Carter and his wife walk to where he was inaugurated, I remember it clearly.

Your story is priceless. Sounds like something my dad would have said as a child, too.

[fudge stripe cookays]

90. I only WISH my parents had been this cool!

My mom called Carter "that stupid peanut farmer." One of the things I remember most clearly about junior high.

People make fun of Texans, but my parents were both from Illinois. Texans are good people. Now that mom has been here for 34 years, she is officially a Democrat.

FSC

[xmas74]

94. That'swhat I'm teaching my daughter.

She is learning tolerance of everyone-except the new-wave pukes.

[Misunderestimator]

56. My redneck brother voted for Kerry, so I completely agree with you...

the other redneck brother cancelled his vote though :(

[Bouncy Ball]

59. ARG.

You can't get them all, I guess.

Were they raised together??? What happened to the other one?? ;-)

[Misunderestimator]

67. We were all raised together... lucky for us, we finally brought one of the

brothers over, PLUS the father... thank Dubya for that. I can say proudly, that even though I was born and raised in Texas, only one of our immediate family voted for Bush... and further than that, probably only two in the extended family, an uncle and aunt, whose three daughters voted for Kerry, all in Texas.

[Bouncy Ball]

69. Good JOB!!!!

I have this theory that most of the really OLD Texas families are still Democrats. I haven't done a study yet, but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

We've just got all these newish (last generation or so) arrivals who are hateful Texan wannabes. LIKE BUSH!!!!! LMAO!!!!!

[alwynsw]

77. You can tell the real McCoys by the cowboy lips.

Can't help it. I like The Bobs.

on edit: I think the Cowboy Lips tune refers to Copenhagen. I think I'll enjoy a pinch right now.

[Radical Activist]

112. I love the South and I love southern women with southern accents

The Smoky Mountains are the best place on earth. I like people who don't have that uptight, in too big of a hurry, look down their nose at anybody they can, don't care about strangers, yankee attitude. I mis living in the South a lot.

[Orsino]

113. If 'redneck' is defined...

...as a glorious lack of sophistication, there's no reason why that has to translate to Republicanism. Sure, someone not paying attention could fall for the fake patriotic anthems and the "freedom" mantra, but one unconcerned with the world outside could also realize what's happening to American jobs, the elderly, etc.

[hfojvt]

114. "and I pray that some day I may find me

a redneck girl.
Gimme a, gimme a, gimme a redneck girl." an old country music song