Mark McGwire in tears in front of House Committee......

[Bullwinkle925]

Reading his statement to the Committee - he will not 'dignify Mr. Canseco's book' - he will not 'name names' - has never made public comments regarding his team members' drug abuse, sexual preferences, etc. and will not do so now.

[berner59]

1. tears mean guilt to me....

Now Shilling on...Bush shrill...oh shut up!!!

[kick-ass-bob]

20. didn't he admit to taking something a long time ago?

Something that wasn't against the rules at the time?
I don't understand the "tears mean guilt"
He already said he was guilty - it's just that no one paid attention.
:shrug:

[Capn Sunshine]

26. he was taking a steroid like substance

growth Hormone related; very similar effect to steriods Andro something

[Seabiscuit]

33. It was "Andro" - *not* a steroid compound at all - but very common over-

-the-counter weight training supplements available at gyms like 24-Hour Fitness. He readily admitted to this the year he hit 70 home runs.

The effects are neither like the effects of steroids, nor do they have any of the detrimental side-effects and after-effects of steroids (sterility, impotence, bone-marrow damage, etc.)

I believe McGwire.

Canseco was always a juvenile trouble-maker as a player, resented McGwire after McGwire joined the A's and out-slugged Canseco (Canseco made a big splash in his rookie years hitting homers, McGwire had an even better rookie year the following year for the A's, and continued out-slugging Canseco during the years of the "bash brothers" and once the A's broke up, Canseco's career spiralled downhill while McGwire went on to post four 50+ HR seasons), and has written a "best-selling book" smearing fellow players for the money. He's a liar and a jackass in my book (which I'm not publishing or making any money on!)

[ScreamingMeemie]

36. Exactly. The stuff he was on, wasn't illegal then. I remember an interview

with him in the locker room and there it was in his locker. I am sick of us getting sucked into these little diversions to keep everyone off of what's really going on.

[Kikosexy2]

2. phoney..

balonies ballplayers!! Boo f*#king hoo!!

[Bullwinkle925]

5. Yup - playing the "Patriotic Card'........hahahahahahaha

again, denegrating Canseco.

[berner59]

7. Canseco is probably telling the truth...

Look how much thinner McGuire is!! Why are they ripping him SOOOO much...what are they afraid of...the truth??

[Kikosexy2]

13. Probably???...

come on known fact--God, Barry Bonds is soooo bad in trying to hide his steroid use.

[WI_DEM]

3. I wonder if he will take the fifth when they ask him if he ever took

steroids?

[meegbear]

4. Poor Crack-guire!

Get another ass shot and you'll feel better.

[THUNDER HANDS]

6. so being gay and being a junkie

are on par with eachother, according to McGwire.

He should be ashamed of himself. If he had any balls at all (ones that haven't been shrunk to the size of peas) he's admit what he's done, name names and save his sport.

But he's a coward. A pussy. And the Roger Maris family should spit on him next time they see him.

[Bullwinkle925]

10. Sad state-of-affairs, isn't it?

[meegbear]

12. Did he say that about gays and junkies?

[ProfessorGAC]

14. That's Hardly What He Said, Rat

I agree with him. The idea that he would validate any of this witchhunt is preposterous. I think his statement put these purient and grandstanding lawmakers in their place. This is a pointless excercise of jury by public opinion, conducted by elected officials. It's sickening.

He didn't say there was any "par". He said he would not discuss what other people did or didn't do. It doesn't matter what the subject is, if it's personal he won't discuss it. That's what he said and meant, and you know it.

The Professor

[THUNDER HANDS]

24. regardless

He's still a phoney. He broke a cherished record by cheating. He deserves to be raked over the coals for this.

I may disagree with Congress using this particular format. But if there's a silver lining, its that McGuire and Bonds and Sosa - the fake trio - get tarnished for what they did to the game.

They pissed on 100+ years of baseball. They deserve to be banned from the game for life in any capacity.

Pete Rose bets on baseball and that's supposed to be worse than this?

[Seabiscuit]

34. I couldn't disagree more.

Your posts disclose ignorant axe-grinding combined with outright self-fabrications. If you want to criticize someone or something, at least make an effort to get your facts straight first.

There is absolutely NO evidence whatsoever that either McGwire or Sosa *ever* took steroids. And there is only extremely weak evidence that Bonds ever did, and no evidence whatsoever that if he did that it was intentional (as a lawyer I know that the case made not long ago against Bonds would have been laughed out of any courtroom in the country).

[aden_nak]

8. Blatant self promotion.

http://rants.adennak.com/baseball.html

[Shakespeare]

9. Oh SPARE me.

Spoiled, steroided-out player who cheated to get into the record books. Let me just pause and shed a fucking tear.

[SaveElmer]

11. A word on McGwire's behalf

I think the reason he was crying is that he has been, and still is a strong financial supporter of groups who help abused children, and the stories he heard earlier in the day affected him. He is clearly not a publicity hog having mostly disappeared from view since he retired. I think he is a basically decent person who simply went over the line trying to compete. I don't think it is fair to lump him in with the Canseco's of the world.

[Bullwinkle925]

16. I agree - he seems to be a decent-enough person. It's unfortunate

that he has done something in the past that has made him vulnerable now.

[cynatnite]

15. Has anyone here read Canseco's book? n/t

[Radical Activist]

17. The sexual preference comment is interesting.

I wonder if that was a jab/threat at Canseco. Maybe needles weren't the only think Jose was sticking in other player's rears.

[WI_DEM]

18. I didn't hear the statement, what did he say re: sexual preference?

[Radical Activist]

19. I only read what was in the original post. n/t

[ucmike]

23. i think he's refering to canseco's book

i won't waste money on it, but i beleive canseco talked about gay players.

canseco's a whore, he wants money and attention and has done anything he could since his awful career ended. he's a loser.

mcgwire may be a decent guy, but he's a cheater. he admitted andro use to hide the steroid use and was trying to fade away into the background without too many questions about it.

filthy cheaters, $$$$ is the bottom line and always will be. selig is useless and this whole thing is a circus with no clear reason or outcome.

i just read that barry bonds may not play this season because of injury. might barry be ducking out so as to not break aaron's record and face the scrutiny??????

[Radical Activist]

31. That makes sense

I thought about that after I posted. Outing players in a tell-all book is not cool.

[Bullwinkle925]

39. Jeez - Do Ya Think??

Bonds pulls as many 'injury' stunts as Michael Jackson when the going gets to be a bit too hot for him.

[Bullwinkle925]

21. I was surprised when that was part of his statement - am unsure if he

had anyone particular in mind or just in general in light of others' statements in different sports regarding teammates, etc.
Who knows?

[joeybee12]

22. Damn you, McGwire! Name those names regarding sexual preference!

I wanna know who I might have a shot with! :evilgrin:

[madmom]

25. anyone who has ever won an award...

a title a record any kind of recognition at all while on steroids ought to be stripped of it.Even Arnold!

[amazona]

27. this would lead to a witch hunt

Look, there was a time when everyone -- and I mean everyone -- used these drugs. I don't think it is cheating to want to enhance your performance. The drugs don't do it for you, but they can help you take your hard work farther than you could otherwise do. I don't know why it is cheating to want to improve oneself and one's performance. It should be my body, my choice.

We should be encouraging the development of drugs that improve the human plant, not discouraging them. Steroids are imperfect. They have side effects. But if people are willing to push the limits and find out what improvements can be made, why not let them? If we were honest with ourselves, we would understand that the entire reason records can still be broken is not because today's athlete has more hours in the day to train but because he has more tools, performance enhancing drugs prime among them.

OK, so someone passed a silly rule that athletes should not use steroids but I don't see the point of going on a witch hunt and picking and choosing who we're going to toss out of the record books. They all did it if they wanted to excel, some get caught, some don't.

I say let sleeping dogs lie. If the concern is safety, let's encourage the development of safer alternatives.

Am I really so out to lunch on this? I can't find anyone who agrees with me. Oh well, the price of being an oddball.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[madmom]

30. To quote my mother here..

just because everyone else does it.....besides it's against the rules.

[bettyellen]

37. silly rule? men on steroids are dangerous. roid rage hurts more than just

the athlete and yeah, they were beaking the rules.

[Bullwinkle925]

40. Right On Sister!

Using any kind of enhancement to get an 'edge' on the competition undermines the principle of sportsmanlike conduct and fair play. When one cannot compete on their own merits they have already forfeited their right to compete at all.

[StopTheMorans]

28. Fuck him, he can cry all he wants, it's not like this was a one-time thing

What an asshole.

[Left Is Write]

29. Gee, I feel really sorry for him.

[fishnfla]

32. What a stupid fucking jock

"will not implicate.... friends and teammates"

Hey dumb-for-ass, you just did. All your(ex) friends and (ex) teammates are like: STFU, as they are now suspect

[6000eliot]

35. Veiled threat?

Sounds like it to me.

[leftofthedial]

38. 'roid-injecting cheater

cheater cheater cheater

Long live Babe Ruth, Henry Aaron and all the other old guys who set their records fair and square.

[Susang]

41. This is ridiculous

Why is there a House committee on this at all? Isn't there a fucking war going on? Why is anyone wasting their time on what baseball players took what in the fucking past?

This makes me so angry! He has every right to keep his mouth shut. It's only a fucking game, or has everybody forgotten that? It isn't important, not in the way that the war, Enron, the bankruptcy bill and social security are important. I wish they'd just give it a fucking rest already! :eyes:

[flvegan]

42. Technically, he's already admitted many times to using 'roids.

Remember, quite some time ago, he spoke of using a perfectly legal supplement, androstenedione (sp?). Well, andro and all it's pro-hormone brethren were recently banned and put on the same level as big-time steroids. Therefore, he has used. Just say so, and go away.

Let's be honest. Many folks watch the game to see players hit home runs (much like scoring goals in hockey, long-pass touchdowns, etc). Baseball is probably more worried about folks getting bored with the best only hitting 30 or so dingers a year, and walking away from the game, and would love to keep 'roids as part of the sport.

You want steroid abuse, go look at football and boxing (and volleyball, and cross-country skiing, and professional bowling...). Rediculous.