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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:17 PM
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Cutting, /// ing, why do today's youth think this is so COOL?
I notice lots of kids today passing notes about cutting. They also talk about suicide a lot. They worship people who have committed suicide. I am talking about nice kids from nice families. I think our society is sick and getting sicker. Our diets are out of whack making us all lacking in compassion for nature and all of it's inhabitants. It is time to get back to our natural diet and time to nurture nature and love and preserve it. Disease is killing our children and our adults at a high rate in this world of supposedly huge medical break troughs. Our oceans and bays are dying.

Kids don't have a sense of belonging to the big picture. We are selfish.

"In the end we will preserve only what we love, we will love only what we understand and we will understand only what we are taught."

Baba Diom African Economist

It will take years to undo the wreckage man has forced on the world and its peoples. The selfish abandonment with which we take whatever we want.

They say things have to get really bad before anything is done about it. We are in for a rough ride. A hellish ride.

I suggest we get back to our natural diet, raw food, and live the way nature intended, healthy and disease free. By taking this big step I contend that change can happen. We must heal our bodies, get the neurosis and sickness out (by removing the toxins created by the crappy cooked and processed foods we eat) then, we can begin our journey to health and happiness. When you are right with nature you behave differently. You value people, the earth and yourself more wholly.

I hope I'm not sounding too preachy but I am so sad for the direction we are headed as humans. Not us here at DU of course. But, mostly, people do not see the big picture. The status quo is ok as long as they have theirs. We are destroying everything in our path including the mental health of our youth who have nothing to aspire to. They certainly do not want to be like our courageous leaders, our rightous CEO's etc.. I'm sure you get the picture. Plus food really does have an effect on mental stability. Much research has been done on this topic.

Google David Kline, Keck, and other rawfoodist. You wont be disapointed.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:21 PM
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1. I think they have been saying this since Plato
Sorry but I see us all about the same. They may seem rude but I can recall when we were thought rude if we called grow ups by their first name.Kids have always been about as we see them and as a grow up we all think they are going to the dogs.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:26 PM
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4. I disagree. I think the youth are sicker. They are doing more sick
acts. Cutting is rampant. Physiologists even say the kids are more disturbed and violent then in the past. Plus, in places where diets are healthy the mental health of the youth is better.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:24 PM
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2. What?
rawfoodist?

cutting is cool?

Can you translate this into plain English for us, please?

Your natural diet hasn't helped your writing skills, that's for sure.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:28 PM
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6. I was suggesting that a cure for the mental illness of our youth
might be a raw food diet. Many legitimate studies have been done and raw food diets are responsible for curing anything from cancer to mental illness. My original post was a bit of a ramble. But, I hope my point wasn't that hard to discern.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:33 PM
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8. Now I get it
Thanks!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:37 PM
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9. I cut
In the past my arms are scarred.
I don't regret it. BUT...
One thing cutting is often a result of trauma.Unresolved conflicts inside that go deep.It sometimes takes YEARS of therapy to undo this urge.I used to cut so I could control my emotions or make sure I could feel
Kids don't feel safe growing up in a system like this.
How would your future look if the talk was all about make it or die, succeed or suffer.

I know it sounds weird

But I think there has been either by mistake or on purpose(i tend to think more on purpose) a systematic sociopathologizing of people in America. Some people in high places with alot of money and control over how culture is, wants a world without love so to speak.

And the kids don't even want to be here if we will not love.

I feel the same.I often get very suicidal if I contemplate the way culture is the social Darwinism and lack of love you see in people.
Look at all the dehumanizing and sacasm even here on DU.. Bullies run this world and they are killing us slowly from within until we become like them..
And parents need to spend alot of skin contact time with their babies and protect thier kids.Sometimes you gotta say fuck the money, get off the stress,take the time back,kick out the spoiuse that verbally abuses beats or is perverse,live a little poorer to make sure your kid grows up emotionally saner because no kid asked to be here,you the parent made them come here,the least you can do is show them they are wanted more than a big house drugs booze or a new SUV.. Love them be close so they know they are safe in the world and the world is not a bad place.Mothers with depression can have profound effects on an infants ability to see the world as a safe positive place. Babies are not dumb unfeeling things.They are aware,very aware and learning like sponges.They have to be..
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:38 PM
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10. There it is
The NIN reference.

Ya know, you could've just dipped your hand in a glass of ice water
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:53 PM
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13. What is the NIN reference?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:03 PM
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18. There's a song that launched a thousand cuts, so to speak
"I hurt myself today, to see if I could still feel."

(or something to that effect)

I've ran across some cutters, that song comes up most of the time.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:14 PM
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20. Didn't know that
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:51 PM
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12. Thanks for sharing. I feel like some kids today do it because they
think it is cool. I do understand that some are legitimately suffering. But, it seems to dominate discussions on message boards like AOL etc..

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:25 PM
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3. I would say that this is mental illness and not a fad.
There were people that did it when I was younger, like 10+ years ago. I imagine there's always some people that think about morbid stuff.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:26 PM
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5. It's a blood ritual with cults, believe it or not.
Anthropology has lots of literature about it.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:29 PM
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7. Because kids are fucking idiots
Seriously, I know a few sensible kids, I've asked them about it and we've come to the conclusion that these people are idiots.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:43 PM
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11. Primate
I am not an idiot.Nor are cutters idiots. I cut I have suffered trauma Cutting is a symptom of trauma and dissociative states.It becomes an addiction to cope with emotional pain that threatens to drive you psychotic. Your lack of compassion is appaling.Child abuse statistics are ridiculous ,Couple that with the insane bullying in school,drug abuse at home ,stress to perform at school ,the bleak future kids have now that all the parents and grandparents have ruined this planet for profit,and our sociopathic culture and the shallow asshole comments like "they are idiots" it adds up...to a world without love.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:53 PM
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14. Okay, allow me to clarify a little...
While I do recognize that many kids do have severe issues and such things do need to be seriously dealt with, there is actually a contingent of kids who do this because they want to seem "dark" and "emo". These kids are not the same kids you're talking about.

That's what the idea of cutting brings to mind for me, and I didn't think to take into account that issue as well. Sorry if I offended in any way.
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_TJ_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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17. Peace friend
I'm sure you are not an idiot. You have to admit, it's not something
that's in any way 'cool' to do.

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_TJ_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:54 PM
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15. We need another Vietnam to thin out their ranks a little
Oh wait, we already have one :D
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 PM
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16. It has nothing to do with diet
And everything to do with control. Kids schedules today are jam packed with activities programmed by overzealous parents. The demands on kids has never been higher. It is truly a terrorizing time to be a kid today.

Add to the mix bulimia, anorexia and cutting. These are methods that kids who feel no sense of control in their lives can exert some form of control.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:06 PM
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19. How can you so easily dismiss diet? It plays such a big role in
our lives. How we treat animals says a lot about our society. How we respect our bodies, the laws of nature etc...
I suggest that we would not be so hurried and materialistic if we considered our true nature and ate food that honored the earth and the animals instead of destroying both.

After reading "The Food Revolution" by John Robbins, I've come to believe that we need to take a stand for a more compassionate and sustainable world. Our food industry is a sham.
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